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thedudenj
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cactus+ shrooms
#5701832 - 06/01/06 10:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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`i havent mixed shrooms and cacti yet but i have had it with ayahuasca and found it to always overpower the effects of 5-meo-dmt and dmt. So i was wondering would it over power shrooms as well i was planning on making a caapi+torch tea then at the 2 hour mark eat the shrooms with my friend who will be on just shrooms probally 25g caapi+40 torch then 1g of shrooms i heard 2g of these ones give a good 5 hour trip so i figure `1g combined with caapi should be strong. any ideas comments suggestions. my main concern is like with dmt the mescaline will take over. when i had everytime i have ayahusaca with the cactus i have only used 30g and had it take over so.. should i just have mushrooms and caapi to be on the safe side or do you think i will feel it
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Edited by thedudenj (06/01/06 10:29 PM)
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Re: cactus+ shrooms [Re: thedudenj]
#5701867 - 06/01/06 10:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thats one hell of a clusterfucked question.
If I get what you are asking(not reading that again)... Mescaline and mushrooms are very good together. One of my most out of this world trips was on a large dose of cacti and a small amount of shrooms. The mushrooms were more than easily felt. They complimented each other very well. In the experience I was talking about, the small dose of shrooms added a HUGE difference in the cacti trip. My favorite mix....
If you add caapi to the shroom/cacti mix it will be more intense and I would imagine the shrooms would almost definately be the dominant additive to your caapi. Mushrooms react to cacti in a very dominant way considering how little it takes to change the mescaline trip drastically. When maois are involved I would imagine that this is the case, but to a further extent.
Edited by stemmer (06/01/06 10:40 PM)
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thedudenj
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Re: cactus+ shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5701877 - 06/01/06 10:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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hmm so why not DMT then i found when i mixed DMT with cactus the cactus blocked out the dmt
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Re: cactus+ shrooms [Re: thedudenj]
#5701895 - 06/01/06 10:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thats a mystery to me. Im sure it didnt block it out entirely. They might not work as well together compared to psilocybin and cacti.
Like lsd, mescaline are not as easily potentiated when using maois(as say shrooms or DMT).
That did strike me as being weird though. Your dose of dmt may be quite low. Other than that I dont know.
Sounds like one hell of a brew though. Thats for damn sure.
Edited by stemmer (06/01/06 10:47 PM)
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thedudenj
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Re: cactus+ shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5702872 - 06/02/06 03:43 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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nah man, maois boost the effects of mesc ott documented it too i know from experience even passion flower boosts the effects. But the times i have combined it with huasca the effects were pretty good but definitely mescaline based and little dmt or 5-meo, my real question here is timing when should i take what how long after ingesting what should i take what i was thinking time it so the mesc and the shrooms hit at the same time. i notice when combined with huasca it still hit me 3 hours later which was weird why wouldnt the huasca hit me like normal is it possible the body suppresses its effects until the mesc hits to make the mesc stronger. should i also throw 5-meo and DMT into this mix too?
my main concern is timing of taking stuff to get the optimal effects obviously the maoi is first.
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Edited by thedudenj (06/02/06 04:46 AM)
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Re: cactus+ shrooms [Re: thedudenj]
#5702941 - 06/02/06 05:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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thedudenj said: hmm so why not DMT then i found when i mixed DMT with cactus the cactus blocked out the dmt
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thedudenj
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Re: cactus+ shrooms [Re: Herbus]
#5709662 - 06/03/06 11:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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hmm i had 40g of cactus and 20g of cappi yellow and .15 of mushrooms one tiny ass mushroom which i vomited, {i was like wow how the fuck do they always turn back into a mushroom when you puke em no matter how much i chew it or break it up}vomited alot but it was a great great super happy fun trip
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Re: cactus+ shrooms [Re: thedudenj]
#5709989 - 06/04/06 01:27 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cactus doesnt block out DMT............. Try rue next time. The dose is pretty exact no matter what "kind" you are using.
5 grams of rue, man. Good luck with that same dose. You will trip pretty hard if you use 40 grams of dried cacti with that. If you dont trip hard, you are not human. Thats why I like rue. You know how much you are taking while not ingesting a shit load of the sacred vine.
if you take .15 grams of shrooms with maois and 40 g's of cacti you can bet your ass the mescaline is going to overpower the shrooms.
What was the question?
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thedudenj
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Re: cactus+ shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5710176 - 06/04/06 02:33 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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holy shit man thats nuts 5 grams of rue alone is a trip, have you ever just eaten 5 grams of rue that shit is intense with that much alot of the dmt is being blocked by the rue( http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v06n3/06332ott.html ) check it out. i have also found this thru experiance that to be true i always mix up my doses never take the same dose and if i do it wasnt intentional. if im gona trip i only use .5-2g of rue at most. yeah i know with that little bit of mushrooms the cactus would over power the mushrooms i decided to take less cause my friend didnt trip with me. he was gona take 3.5 of mushrooms and i was gona take 1g mushrooms , 20 caapi, and 20g cactus but it was a really shitty day out so he didnt but we will when theres a good day i will post about that.it was a good trip today tho cool shit happened and i got a super badass hug from a girl i know and when your on this stuff its as good as sex
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