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lsd shortage?
    #5700666 - 06/01/06 05:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

dont tell me this town aint got no heart
you just gotta poke around!


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Re: lsd shortage? [Re: tocuhe]
    #5700682 - 06/01/06 05:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Waiting for the Candyman to come around, again!!


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Re: lsd shortage? [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
    #5701000 - 06/01/06 07:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

PM me


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Re: lsd shortage? [Re: Atheist]
    #5701016 - 06/01/06 07:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

lsd tends to travel in herds.

Go to a hippy show, many herds of acid spread their seed.


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Re: lsd shortage? [Re: Atheist]
    #5701025 - 06/01/06 07:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

If I Get Home Before Daylight...


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Re: lsd shortage? [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
    #5701061 - 06/01/06 07:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

She comes skimming through rays of violet
She can wade in a drop of dew


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Re: lsd shortage? [Re: stemmer]
    #5701118 - 06/01/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

This thread is getting Deadly MAGnificent!!


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Re: lsd shortage? [Re: Atheist]
    #5701119 - 06/01/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

SpicyTunaRoll said:
PM me




:lol:


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Re: lsd shortage? [Re: sander]
    #5701149 - 06/01/06 07:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

he never did unfortunately :sad:


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Re: lsd shortage? [Re: sander]
    #5701152 - 06/01/06 07:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe they were going to work together as a team via the shroomery?

:confused:


Edited by stemmer (06/01/06 07:59 PM)


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Re: lsd shortage? [Re: stemmer]
    #5701195 - 06/01/06 08:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

When there is no pebble tossed,
Nor wind to blow.

Reach out your hand if your cup be empty,
If your cup is full may it be again


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Re: lsd shortage? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #5701218 - 06/01/06 08:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

If someone can tell me a where a reliable source of ergot is to be had.. i have the means and the knowledge to help that town find its heart


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Re: lsd shortage? [Re: trauma47645]
    #5701284 - 06/01/06 08:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Lie.


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Re: lsd shortage? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5701299 - 06/01/06 08:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Koala Koolio said:
Lie.




Assumption?

Although I too dont think many people here have the knowhow.  :wink:


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Re: lsd shortage? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5701328 - 06/01/06 08:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Koala Koolio said:
Lie.




lie?? what makes you think that I dont have a friend that has a degree in organic chem? and what makes you think that he wouldnt have the proper equipment at his disposal.. i never said that i was going to be synthesizing LSD-25. I only said I had the means and the knowledge (of what is none of your concern), once I had a source of ergot


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Re: lsd shortage? [Re: trauma47645]
    #5701387 - 06/01/06 08:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Im pretty sure the sale of ergot is heavily regulated these days.
and that sucks. You can likely grow/find it and store it and thats not by any means illegal. People just dont sell the stuff, but is more than abundant in some places naturally(to the point where it is almost a problem). I have not seen it in the wild myself. I may have, but my gut tells me it was the wrong fungi.


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Re: lsd shortage? [Re: stemmer]
    #5701428 - 06/01/06 08:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The knowhow is realtively easy. I've read several LSD synths, and understood pretty much all of them. But even though they were generally within my technical abilities to perform, I lack the means, because these syntheses require all kinds of spendy lab equipment that I don't have. I assume that when the above poster says he has the knowledge and the means, he means he's taken college-level organic chemistry and has access to or possesses the necessary equipment, all of which has countless legitimate uses besides the synthesis of LSD. The claim is really not that unreasonble. (edit: wrote this before above poster replied himself)

But to the chemist with the ways and the means that does not have access to ET, I want to know why y'all aren't inventing drugs like Shulgin. He can't try everything, after all. Personally, I want to see some 2,4,5-trimethoxy-beta-hydroxy-amphetamine. After all, the BOH series seemed a distinct improvement on the 2C-'s, and alpha-methylation tends to make most PEA's more potent, so it wouldn't be unreasonable to figure that alpha-methylated beta-hydroxylated 2C-'s could well be more potent than the DO- series. Or what about 2,4,6- substituted 2C-'s or DO-'s? Or 3,4,5- substituted versions of the same. And no one has done any work with 2,3,4,6- tetrasubstituted compounds to my knowledge (though 2C-G indicates that 2,6-dimethoxy-3,4-dimethyl-PEA might be an interesting compound... or maybe a 3,4-methylenedioxy instead of that 3,4-dimethyl). And all of these things are pretty much legal (depending on how much leeway you give to the Controlled Substances Analogues Act). As soon as I have the money to set up a home lab, I plan to make as many of these (and other things) as I have time. And even if you're not into the effort of working up the synths yourself or the uncertainty of taking a brand new drug for the first time, there's still plenty of legal gems in PiHKAL (and to a lesser exent, TiHKAL)


Edited by Entropymancer (06/01/06 09:12 PM)


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Re: lsd shortage? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #5701812 - 06/01/06 10:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Does Garcia in grateful dead reference Candyman to Giver of LSD?


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Re: lsd shortage? [Re: freezepooter]
    #5701842 - 06/01/06 10:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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freezepooter said:
Does Garcia in grateful dead reference Candyman to Giver of LSD?




I don't know for sure, but I'd doubt it. The song was off Workingman's Dead, their tribute to American country-blues heritage, and the Candyman is an old figure in the blues (I've got a version of Candyman by Mississippi John Hurt from his 1926 sessions). The candyman was basically a badass who went around either seducing women ("got a stick of candy nine inches long") and/or peddling drugs. Reverend Gary Davis's Candyman Blues is the only version I've seen that focuses anywhere near as much on the drug-peddling as on the seducing.

However, in the figurative context of this thread, I think it works.


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Re: lsd shortage? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #5704090 - 06/02/06 01:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Claviceps purpurea is unscheduled in the U.S., but it is also listed as a "poison" according to U.S.C. Title 21 Chapter 7. This designation as a poison means that products made from ergot must either be labelled "for external use only"; or labelled as a "poison" and records kept about who it is sold to. The fungus itself is legal to cultivate and possess.

One of its constituent chemicals, ergotamine tartrate, is a watched chemical because of its use in the manufacture of LSD. Because of this, the cultivation or possession of large quantities of Claviceps purpurea might be considered suspicious.

The above is from Erowid's Ergot Vault..

So as you can see Ergot (Claviceps purpurea) is not scheduled or regulated... it may be closely watched because ergotamine tartrate, A Constituant Chemical in Ergot is a watched chemical. But possession and cultivation of Claviceps purpurea is PERFECTLY 100 % LEGAL!!!! in the USA... so if anyone knows of any sources of Ergot or its spores please PM me..


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