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EquilibriuM
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Re: Those with shamen knowledge pleaase read [Re: soulcircus]
#5701773 - 06/01/06 10:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shamans are great and they can help you. So can psychologists and psychiatrists (in my opinion to a lesser degree) but the person that can help you the most is, YOURSELF. You have the power over yourself - more-so then most Shamans or Doctors will ever have. The problems you face AND the answer to them reside within yourself. All a Shaman or Psychologist would do to help you is point it out. Look within yourself - don't give up your power.
And don't let those that doubt you or your sincerity bother you.
Practice meditaion
Chakra Balancing
Dont be afraid
Ground yourself.
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Telepylus
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Re: Those with shamen knowledge pleaase read [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5701847 - 06/01/06 10:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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in my opinion psychologists and psychiatrists are very dangerous. the key to healing is simple- become honest. become honest with yourself and your wounds, and be honest with others, try to share your problems with family or friends, not strangers who spent half their lives in daycare(college).
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Entropymancer

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Re: Those with shamen knowledge pleaase read [Re: Telepylus]
#5701868 - 06/01/06 10:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Telepylus said: in my opinion psychologists and psychiatrists are very dangerous. the key to healing is simple- become honest. become honest with yourself and your wounds, and be honest with others, try to share your problems with family or friends, not strangers who spent half their lives in daycare(college).
While I agree that psychologists and psychatriasts are very dangerous, that bit about college being daycare has to be deliberate baiting. I don't consider learning how to synthesize and design syntheses for organic compounds so that I can create psychedelic compounds that have never been eaten before to be "daycare".
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Re: Those with shamen knowledge pleaase read [Re: Entropymancer]
#5701939 - 06/01/06 10:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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The golden mean just might be to find a psychologist or smart and articulate friend that understands hallucinogens to a vast extent. After how the thread maker presented himself here, he can be pretty sure that he will be diagnosed to have some problem. All the meds follow, which is not a good thing.
There is indeed alot of help you can do for yourself. Psychedelics can be more than a mind fuck, they can teach you things. SOmetimes just because so many contrasting points of view are at play with eachother. This guy doesnt want to feel this way. Its no good for him. He has room to learn.
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Telepylus
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Re: Those with shamen knowledge pleaase read [Re: stemmer]
#5701963 - 06/01/06 11:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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you can learn how to synthesize chemicals for mind expansion without college. in fact, you'll probably learn alot faster by avoiding that route. if you wanna learn, use a library. i didn't know they taught LSD production 101 in college, lol.
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Entropymancer

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Re: Those with shamen knowledge pleaase read [Re: Telepylus]
#5702004 - 06/01/06 11:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's like saying that you can learn to be a doctor faster without going to college. It may be true in the strictest sense, but good luck having any credibility whatsoever.
And LSD synthesis is not really that difficult if you have access to the necessary reagents and equipment. But I'm not talking about LSD, I'm talking about completely new, never-before-seen-in-nature-or-the-lab kind of chemicals. There are so many promising compounds that have never been synthed or consumed by humans which hold great promise as psychedelic agents. Those are what I will synth once I can afford the necessary equipment (no point risking getting busted over controlled substances when there's so much legal fun to be had)
But since this is off topic and you're obviously trolling, I'm going to drop it.
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Telepylus
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Re: Those with shamen knowledge pleaase read [Re: Entropymancer]
#5702077 - 06/01/06 11:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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you can learn brain surgery in the course of a month if you have the right books, and an experienced guide. i don't mean to knock education, but the industry of systematic education is a joke. most of the people i know who spent 8 years in college, they seem to have lost something along the way, as if they've spent time in a daycare the whole time. didn't mean to bruise any egos, it's just my opinion- hey i dropped out of high school so... don't listen to me.
and, i wouldn't call my opinion trolling- and it is pertinent to the topic. most of the shamans i know didn't spend $100,000 to spend 8 years in college(daycare).
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EquilibriuM
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Re: Those with shamen knowledge pleaase read [Re: Telepylus]
#5702107 - 06/01/06 11:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quit acting so high and mighty. Your off topic and not helping the thread starter. Yeah Shamans are helpful and they don't go to school. Doctors are also helpful and they do go to school. Its illogical to say that since Shamans don't go to school that school is worthless, because modern western doctors can help MANY people that Shamans cannot. Its good you know shamans, Ill e-mail you a cookie.
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Re: Those with shamen knowledge pleaase read [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5702125 - 06/01/06 11:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Where am I???
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Telepylus
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Re: Those with shamen knowledge pleaase read [Re: stemmer]
#5702163 - 06/01/06 11:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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western doctors can help many people that shamans cannot? depends on the shaman, just like it depends on the doctor. a proctolgist can't deliver a baby. or he can, if he knows how, like an uneducated widwife can. a powerful shaman can heal things that no doctor can heal. you're the one acting high and mighty now. did soulcircus tell you to tell me i'm not helping him, lol, or are you somehow tuned into his mind, lol. you do all the talking for him now, lol. please gimme a break. i never said school was worthless, and daycare isn't useless either.
Edited by Telepylus (06/01/06 11:58 PM)
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EquilibriuM
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Re: Those with shamen knowledge pleaase read [Re: stemmer]
#5702234 - 06/02/06 12:08 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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stemmer said: Where am I???
Your in your usual spot, but we have an agreement.  ........
I don't like this guy talking condescending towards higher learning because of his own personal bias. Its not positive. Did I ever say that some Shamans could not cure things that some doctors could not? I don't think I did.
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EquilibriuM
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Re: Those with shamen knowledge pleaase read [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5702246 - 06/02/06 12:11 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes, I did tune into him for a moment, why? What is it of your concern what my relation with him is?
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Telepylus
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Re: Those with shamen knowledge pleaase read [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5702265 - 06/02/06 12:14 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i've been working closely with him for the past week, so yea, it is my concern.
the difference between the schooled medical doctor and the shaman is western medical doctors are mostly utilizing KNOWN scientific methods. while a shaman is prepared to enter the unknown, and to heal the spirit, rather than the material body. the spirit preceeds the material body. and so does the unknown preceed the known.
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EquilibriuM
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Re: Those with shamen knowledge pleaase read [Re: Telepylus]
#5702349 - 06/02/06 12:28 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes, I like those vibrations, good energy. I just think you came off a bit as an asshole. But that was a good meditation. I love those.
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