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EquilibriuM
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Re: Confused About Psychedelic Users. [Re: hybridphil]
#5701813 - 06/01/06 10:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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EquilibriuM said: They have found that there is more to reality then we know, and they are afraid to open the door. They don't want us to go in their either because we might learn something, something that they don't know. And that would put us a little out of their control.
Haha love that quote from Hallucinogen. But it's so true. The government never displayed any effort to create a society with true freedom. I mean, since when has anybody murdered anybody or got into a fight on shrooms, or acid, or k. Always happens on alcohol. But alcohol doesn't open your mind, so of course the government doesn't mind that. What the fuck has this world come to...
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Land_Crab
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Re: Confused About Psychedelic Users. [Re: Zimed]
#5702152 - 06/01/06 11:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Psychedelic hallucinogens such as mushrooms, mescaline, and acid have the most diverse range of effects of any class of recreational drugs. Each experience is as subjective as your individual perception of things. That's the nature of psychedelics. They affect you on the most fundamental levels of thought and feeling; (not to mention altered/enhanced/distorted sensory perception.) The person you are has a huge impact on how you might react; unlike, say, alcohol. About the biggest difference you'll notice in terms of how people react to alcohol is that some people get sedated and some people get excited. And here's why.
This is a molecule of alcohol:
This is a molecule of LSD: 
Given the indescribable complexity of the human brain, can you see how drugs like LSD can produce such a diverse range of effects? P.S. If you're reading subjective experiences, remember that they are anecdotal. You cannot predict how people are going to react based on someone else's experience. Even two individuals placed in the same situation, given the same dose, can have radically different experiences.
Edited by Land_Crab (06/01/06 11:54 PM)
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LOBO
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Re: Confused About Psychedelic Users. [Re: Zimed]
#5702979 - 06/02/06 05:43 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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ZIMED: Since the beginning my intention was for inner exploration, I trip no more than 2 times a year in a nature setting. All I can tell you is no matter how much we try to explain you what you will experience, it will fall short, is like nothing you have ever experience in your normal state of consciousness. It will take you a place so unexpected but at the same time familiar but you will only recognize it when you get there. Don't try to understand it (it can not be understood by your normal state of consciousness ), you need to experience it, the day you do you will understand my words. I never push any one to try them, is not for everyone. But in the same token for people who have never experience them I believe they are missing something in life. If you are willing to go thru the experience I advice to start with Shrooms (in general they are more holistic), the experience is shorter than cactus and easier to take, avoid dmt at first (to strong of a jolt for a new bee) and above all, do it in a nature setting were you feel very safe, and if possible with some one with some experience. Good luck Lobo
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bbates421
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Re: Confused About Psychedelic Users. [Re: FunkyLoFi]
#5703098 - 06/02/06 07:32 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i used to take them to have fun and get f-ed up in high school. Its grown much deeper. I've learned thru mushrooms that this world is way too complex and mysterious to ever know the actual occuring paranormal phenonenons. I've learned to rebel from the catholic church and use mushrooms as my only mediator to God. It's me, God, and the world now. That's it.
As jesus used the mushrooms, I used them as a release of my sins (exorcism) on myself. Each time I do it it's like being reborn, having a 6 hour period in which ones self is discovered. Some people get too scared of tripping because it's too intense on the mind, but those people are just scared of discovering themselves, the truths about this world (that we cant know the truth, so stop saying we do), and are utterly afraid of examining their life from a non-biases point of view.
Instead of being afraid, like me, people should use mushrooms as a tool to better the soul.. if you feel guilty about a relationship on their use... you should change you relationship. If come to the realization that you spend too much time outside the house and not with your family, its most likely true, change it. If you feel that yu are ahorrible sinner, when tripping, change your ways because YOU HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT. Don't be afraid.
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Zimed
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Re: Confused About Psychedelic Users. [Re: bbates421]
#5703388 - 06/02/06 09:41 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for the replies.
One thing I will never understand, is how the fuck, the US government can have all alcohol, and tobbaco legal, but not Cannibas, or Psychedelics. I mean, alcohol, you can OD from, get poisoned, and die. Tobbaco, fires your lungs, and kills you to...but it's for the taxes right? Cannibas, and psyechedelics, don't have taxes on them, so the government, of course legalize them, since they want every penny of the Americans wallet. Alcohol, icreases crime, makes people angry, and causes death/withdrawal. On the note of psychedelics, it's like the government is trying to hide something from us, that psychedelics uncover for us, to see.
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mecreateme
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Re: Confused About Psychedelic Users. [Re: Zimed]
#5703506 - 06/02/06 10:22 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Honestly the world is full of such confusion anyway, that the government doesn't really have to try. We do much of the disinformation sharing for them, amongst ourselves in the form of rumors, and, "things I heard..." Oh boy, do teenage people like to assert themselves and tell you what they know, epecially about drugs.
Just look at how far you had to look to get to what you now know. Just look at all the fucking retarded posts everyday in here by new users. I swear there is an OD post almost every day. I don't think even the Shroomery could comprehend the number of posts about what shrooms are like.
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Asante
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Re: Confused About Psychedelic Users. [Re: Zimed]
#5703532 - 06/02/06 10:31 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I can release you from your doubt!
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how the fuck, the US government can have all alcohol, and tobbaco legal, but not Cannibas, or Psychedelics.
When the US Government decided to get rigid, the Alcohol and Tobacco industries already had a powerful lobby and acceptance among the population, so the albacco lobby and their support assured that the government would keep it legal. This until prohibition was more favored, which was dropped when it was clear being pro-booze got you the vote.
If 75% of the population wants LSD, there will be LSD. If 75% of the population wants death camps, there will be death camps. That's democratic government, and yes, thats pretty scary.
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TurricaN
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Re: Confused About Psychedelic Users. [Re: Asante]
#5703776 - 06/02/06 11:39 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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People don't really know what they want though. :p
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the_psychonaut
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Re: Confused About Psychedelic Users. [Re: TurricaN]
#5704916 - 06/02/06 05:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i use psychedelics to open my mind. they are great for learning those so incredibly unexplainable things(you guys/gals know what im talking about) about life, and how it works. i know for a FACT that psychedelics have helped me appreciate life(in every way) much better.
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Mr_Psilocin
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Re: Confused About Psychedelic Users. [Re: Zimed]
#5705040 - 06/02/06 06:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I all depends on the person using them. I have friends who use mushrooms for example only to see things and to be "fucked up" or "high". I on the other hand see every trip as an spiritually enlightening thing. I get SO much energy after each trip because of the visuals I see are just so beautiful. I feel really strong after each trip. Whereas my friends who used them only to get "high" and see things, feel really shit the next day upon having used them. I think that mushrooms really are magical because of this. Also they tend to help solve problems that you have in life. You must not see them as a drug..rather as a guide. They cannot make you feel good when you are feeling bad either, also they are not addicting. You can't even use them more than 1 day of a week because you build tolerance. I for one finally understand why they call them "magic" mushrooms.
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newGuy4950
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Re: Confused About Psychedelic Users. [Re: the_psychonaut]
#5705045 - 06/02/06 06:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Getting back to the part about the xanax and shrooms combo trip. I admit I first started taking shrooms for the the 'thrill' factor (mostly just pretty colors and watching my bathroom tiles go fucking crazy on my while taking a piss). i'm a person that EASILY goes into freakout mode on shrooms so i decided takin a benzo with my trip a couple months ago would be a good idea. i staggered .25 mg xanax whenever needed using 2mg total thoughout the nite. (i hadn't tripped since my shroom binge days of some long lost summer ago)
ended up having 2 trips for the first time in a year in 2 consecutive weekends. i'd have to say my trip w/ xanax was ALOT more fun. i could focus on the present entirely, pushing out all the philosophical thoughts of earlier trips. i STARED at shit and had a fuckn ball doing it. the world came alive and was just so much FUN. it was also meaningless though. i noticed that all the pathways of introspection had been roadblocked.
the next trip i ended up taking no benzos and had yet another rollercoaster of emotions trip. i did have one of the most revealing and honest conversations with one of my friends i've ever had. we talked about anything and everything philosphical for nearly 3 hours straight. from friends to how pizza toppings determine personality to the ever popular 'God talk'.
overall, both of the trips were good trips. it just depends on how a person wants to perceive what they got out of the trip. the first one was a balls out fuckn mind party (perfect combo for music festivals btw ) the second one was perfect for digging deeper into oneself and discovering unfound personality traits that were dorment.
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