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Re: Doctor J [Re: Silversoul]
    #5699675 - 06/01/06 01:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Look man, I'm not here to dis you. I'm just worried about you. I've always known you to be a good guy, which is why I'm not trying to insult you like others are. Maybe I should. You seem to handle the insults much better than a genuine show of concern.




You seem like your insulting him to me.If calling the guy schizophrenic and bipolar isn't an insult I don't know what is.The truth is you are trying to insult him,you are just doing it in a different way than others.Think passive aggressive.

Your not a doctor,therefore you have no place to diagnose the guy with schizophrenia.


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Re: Doctor J [Re: Silversoul]
    #5699676 - 06/01/06 01:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

sorry

didn't mean to put you out

I appreciate your concern, but trust me its unecessary

people have been telling me I'm crazy since I was a little kid. 

but the funny thing is, I know people who believe MUCH more 'sane' things than I do, 

And they do some crazy shit that I'd never dream of doing!

like I said, insanity is all about behavior.

don't tell me what to do with my mind, and I won't tell you what to do with yours. 

we're both well behaved, so I don't think thats an issue :wink:


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Re: Doctor J [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #5699679 - 06/01/06 01:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Silversoul said:
Look man, I'm not here to dis you. I'm just worried about you. I've always known you to be a good guy, which is why I'm not trying to insult you like others are. Maybe I should. You seem to handle the insults much better than a genuine show of concern.




You seem like your insulting him to me.If calling the guy schizophrenic and bipolar isn't an insult I don't know what is.The truth is you are trying to insult him,you are just doing it in a different way than others.Think passive aggressive.

Your not a doctor,therefore you have no plays to diagnose the guy with schizophrenia.



Get the fuck over yourself, man! I'm just trying to help out an old friend.


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Re: Doctor J [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5699682 - 06/01/06 01:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

One of my absolute favorite professors had this mantra that made the biggest impression on me:

"it is what it is"

It feels a lot better when you are looking at plant cell phys and can't figure out what anything - a calm explanation or method to help figure things out and utterance of the mantra made everything okay.


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Re: Doctor J [Re: Silversoul]
    #5699683 - 06/01/06 01:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

This has nothing to do with me.I was addressing your post.If you cant take criticism then you don't need to dish it out.


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Re: Doctor J [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5699688 - 06/01/06 01:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Frank Zappa - Who Are The Brain Police?

What will you do if we let you go home,

And the plastic's all melted,

And so is the chrome?

WHO ARE THE BRAIN POLICE?



What will you do when the label comes off,

And the plastic's all melted,

And the chrome is too soft?



WAAAAHHHHHH!

I think I'm gonna die . . .

I think I'm gonna die . . .

I think I'm going to die . . .

I think I'm going to die . . .

I think I'm going to die . . .

I think I'm going to die . . .

I'm gonna die . . .

I think I'm going to die . . .

I think I'm gonna die . . .

I'm going to die . . .

I think I'm gonna die . . .

I think I'm gonna die . . .

I think I'm gonna die . . .

Going to die!



WHO ARE THE BRAIN POLICE?



What will you do if the people you knew

Were the plastic that melted,

And the chromium too?

WHO ARE THE BRAIN POLICE?

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i feel ya... i really do!
it's easy to get thrustrated when life is so meaningless and yet you know exectly how marvelouse it really can be!

i could try and spew some advice but i feel redicules telling people what they should do when i can't do it my self (for now anyway)

what i DO know is that you should lay off the weed for a while (at least massively cut back... and any other drugs too i guess...)
and this is just a guess... i may be wrong but this IS the shroomery and there's good chances you ARE smoking frequently :smirk:

WHO ARE THE BRAIN POLICE?


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Re: Doctor J [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5699694 - 06/01/06 01:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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but I still pay my bills on time and socialize and work a job like everyone else.





and dont forget about talking smack on the internet message boards


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Re: Doctor J [Re: Telepylus]
    #5699695 - 06/01/06 01:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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J,

i can prove that ascension is not your only goal.
and if you are having trouble with people screwing you over, it's because you're missing your right time/right place.
you're slippin'.

i feel you'll probably regain your footing soon though, we'll see.




Time is new to me, and I've never been good at timing moves. Its a shortcoming, but one I don't have much desire to improve upon. Time sucks anyway.

and yes, my goal in coming here was to teach people, but I've pretty much said all I have to say. Everything I post is basically just a re-iteration of the same idea: there's two sides to every coin.

So anyway, I don't see much reason to be here anymore. I'll probably leave whenever I can.


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Re: Doctor J [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5699722 - 06/01/06 01:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Well J, if you're as functional as you say you are, then I'll quit prying. I wish you well on your journey, and hope you find what you're looking for.


aNeway2sayHooray: How the fuck is it criticism to show concern for someone you care about? If someone here was suicidal, would you consider it insulting to worry about them? I've known DoctorJ for the entire time he's been here, and anyone can see that he's not the same as he used to be. I have a friend who might be dead by now if I hadn't intervened, so don't get preachy to me when I show concern for others.


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Re: Doctor J [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #5699735 - 06/01/06 01:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Silversoul said:
Look man, I'm not here to dis you.  I'm just worried about you.  I've always known you to be a good guy, which is why I'm not trying to insult you like others are.  Maybe I should.  You seem to handle the insults much better than a genuine show of concern.




You seem like your insulting him to me.If calling the guy schizophrenic and bipolar isn't an insult I don't know what is.The truth is you are trying to insult him,you are just doing it in a different way than others.Think passive aggressive.

Your not a doctor,therefore you have no place to diagnose the guy with schizophrenia.




I see what you're saying but I don't think it was a direct insult... maybe an unfair diagnosis. 



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I suspect he's either bipolar or schizophrenic, probably the latter.  I hate to see it happen.  I had a friend who was schizophrenic, and it was heartbreaking to watch him slowly go deeper into madness.




"I wish people would quit talking about me like I'm not here." - DoctorJ 

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Re: Doctor J [Re: Silversoul]
    #5699742 - 06/01/06 01:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I am not getting preachy.Saying the guy is skitzo is not showing concern.It is calling names and judging him.

Then telling me to get the fuck over myself realy shows your maturity.To me it seems you need to get over yourself.

I dont understand why your replys to me are so hostile.I am jusr expressing my opinion.I am in no way trying to "get at" you or anything like that.


EDIT:I deleted an insult that shoulndt be there.No need for that jazz

I am not going to argue this.I said what I want to say.


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MrJellineck said:  Profits, prophets. That's all you jews think about.
sheekle said: life is drugs... and music... and cat... :snowman:


Edited by aNeway2sayHooray (06/01/06 01:49 PM)


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Re: Doctor J [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #5699810 - 06/01/06 02:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

um
schizophrenia is, i quote
"early symptoms"
being fearful for no good reason
jumbled thoughts and confusion
feeling "something's not quite right"
declining interest in people, activities, and self-care
hearing sounds/voices that are not there
trouble speaking clearly

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it isn't a disease at all. it is being stuck on astral planes that the people who diagnose you do not understand.  most people these days as a result of who knows what, are on one or a very few similar planes. mostly physical.  those that are not, are just different.  see what i'm getting at? 

is a shroomer fearful for no good reason?  when he knows he is about to die? (this is judging good/bad)

do shroomers ever get jumbled thoughts, or experience confusion? YES. after spiritual enlightenment experiences people often are confused, too.

how do you know something is not not quite right?  shroomers often feel, but there is no way to KNOW for sure. that is Gods business

people, activities, and self care do not cause everlasting happiness
:laugh:

lots of shroomers experiences lights, sounds, voices, etc.

trouble speaking clearly! LOL. trouble UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS BEING SAID. did everyone understand Jesus' parables?

so, i find it funny that "symptoms" of this made up disease called skitsophrenia is just talking about someone in a state of being like shrooms can make.

also, "spiritual" sadhus, those working on themselves, ie, spiritual aspirants, etc, frequently experience astral lights astral vision astral sound etc. its perfectly documented by paramhansa
 
i don't think its a insult to say you are shitzophrenic. but i think its also misleading. but i do think you have it :smile:  like i said, just astral planes. you should work on loosening your attachment to your "state." mind state.  i've been caught in a mind state where i forget people think they are bodies. lol.  i just wrote this entire thing in that state and now i see that it is useless.  i should delete this, but you remind me of myself J.

"hold on to the unchanging"


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    #5699889 - 06/01/06 02:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Doctor J [Re: blink]
    #5699906 - 06/01/06 02:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

eh

I'm not too worried about it :lol:


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Re: Doctor J [Re: sleepy]
    #5699987 - 06/01/06 02:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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i don't think its a insult to say you are shitzophrenic. but i think its also misleading. but i do think you have it :smile: 





RE: DoctorJ
I wouldn't parade around telling ANYONE you're schitzophrenic, though.  Someone else may not define it the way he does or might even consider it an insult.  I think you're alright... maybe bored and dreaming up crazy shit to occupy/torment yourself with.  Easily fixed with any activity that breaks procrastination habits.  Something that gives you a sense of accomplishment and direction. 

But who knows?  maybe I'm crazy...


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Re: Doctor J [Re: blissedout]
    #5700002 - 06/01/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

J sounds like me, a long time ago.
Except his rants, are better than mine :flowstone:
He is cool his posts are welcomed by me
Bear with him, we always come back to the light.
Good luck Dr.J in your trials


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Re: Doctor J [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5700014 - 06/01/06 03:06 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I suspect he's either bipolar or schizophrenic, probably the latter.  I hate to see it happen.  I had a friend who was schizophrenic, and it was heartbreaking to watch him slowly go deeper into madness.




wow, thanks for the vote of confidence, man :rolleyes:

you really have little faith, don't you?  You talk the talk, but can you walk the walk? 

look dude, I'm an open-minded guy.  But I keep my insanity contained within my mind. 

Craziness isn't about thought.  Its about action.  Just because I write crazy shit on an internet board, does not make me crazy. 

I don't steal, I don't commit violence, etc.  I'm just another intelligent guy, bored off his ass by mainstream society to the point where I'd rather live in a fantasy world, to the extent that I can get away with it. 

but I still pay my bills on time and socialize and work a job like everyone else. 

who are you, anyway?  the thought police?




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Re: Doctor J [Re: Kerbouchard]
    #5700019 - 06/01/06 03:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I like his posts they are interesting and cause you to think.But only if you dont immediatly dismiss them as BS.


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Re: Doctor J [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #5700067 - 06/01/06 03:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I like his posts they are interesting and cause you to think.But only if you dont immediatly dismiss them as BS.



I too find many interesting insights in his posts. Being crazy doesn't mean you can't be right. In fact, if you read Terrence McKenna's Invisible Worlds, he talks about the connection between schizophrenia and shamanism. Just as I think that my psychedelic experiences have brought me some valid insights, I think that a schizophrenic may access parts of reality that we normally don't experience. The problem with schizophrenia and similar disorders is the tendency to get the different planes of reality confused, or sometimes lose touch with the physical plane and drift deeper into the psychic plane. According to Terrence McKenna, a shaman lives in both these worlds and learns to strike a balance between the two.


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Re: Doctor J [Re: Silversoul]
    #5700134 - 06/01/06 03:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

thats exactly what I'm trying to do

My higher self is rushing down from above to meet me.

I think around the time I am 31, my higher self and I will be one.

After that, I don't know what happens

all I can say is: hang onto something!


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