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AKtoker
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Re: disappointed newbie [Re: AKtoker]
#5700988 - 06/01/06 07:19 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Also, for the most part, I don't think people are excessivly rude when telling noobs to use the search engine.
MANY threads i see could be answered with one search query. Theres a difference between not being able to find the answer you need, and simply being to lazy to look.
Everyone gets tired of reading questions that have been asked and answerd 3 times a day.
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ManianFH
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Re: disappointed newbie [Re: cappa]
#5701015 - 06/01/06 07:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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im so angry right now....
ARRRRGRREREEA???!!! SOUP!!!!
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Atheist
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Re: disappointed newbie [Re: AKtoker]
#5701020 - 06/01/06 07:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Exactly.
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Eraserhead
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Re: disappointed newbie [Re: Optx]
#5701030 - 06/01/06 07:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Greetings.. I'm a complete noob.. been reading for around 3 weeks or so continuously.. just inoculated my first set of rye jars... am expecting some nice green or yellow putrid growth in 2 weeks so as to not be disappointed when they aren't 
It's gonna take me forever to get any number of posts over here at my rate of posting.. lol..
Wow.. spellchecking excellent.. lmfao I like this place better and better every day  Anywho.. I wish more people would just read the available data... everything is there...
Edited by Eraserhead (06/01/06 07:31 PM)
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blueferret
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Re: disappointed newbie [Re: Eraserhead]
#5701173 - 06/01/06 08:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I didnt post anything for the 1st year I was here. I didnt see the point all the info I needed was easy enough to find just by reading things and using the search. I only started posting when I decided I wanted to get into the marketplace and other forums.
This website is honestly like someone handing you a great big encyclopedia. If your patient and can use the glossery (search in the case of this site). You can learn the answer to just about any question you want.
Try to think about it like being in a college library everyone is here to study and learn. If your constantly hastling the uper class men we are only gona get snapy at you because we have our own stuff to do. Also if everyone keeps asking questions with way easy answers it gets anoying. Imagin siting somewere reading a book next to a sign telling people were something is. Say the bathroom or something, how iritating is it gona be when you get interupted in your reading ever 5 min by someone asking were the bathroom is?
Its not my job to answer your questions, if I do you should aprechiate it. If you ask something stupid and I tell you to use the search you should just be happy I answered you at all. If I scare you away you werent determined enough in the first place.
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Re: disappointed newbie [Re: blueferret]
#5701338 - 06/01/06 08:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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blueferret said: This website is honestly like someone handing you a great big encyclopedia. If your patient and can use the glossery (search in the case of this site). You can learn the answer to just about any question you want.
Try to think about it like being in a college library everyone is here to study and learn. If your constantly hastling the uper class men we are only gona get snapy at you because we have our own stuff to do. Also if everyone keeps asking questions with way easy answers it gets anoying. Imagin siting somewere reading a book next to a sign telling people were something is. Say the bathroom or something, how iritating is it gona be when you get interupted in your reading ever 5 min by someone asking were the bathroom is?
VERY well put!
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splifner180
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Re: disappointed newbie [Re: Eraserhead]
#5701368 - 06/01/06 08:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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First, let me say that I (kinda) understand your frustration.
When I first began with something called "linux" (an alternative to Windows), I was completely confused pretty much all the time. I'd ask a question and I'd be flamed with "read the *&%$ing 'man' page."
(short for "manual," 'man' pages are pretty much instructions for every command and often has examples of how the command is used.) But being new, I didn't know which questions were the RIGHT questions. And if you don't know what the right questions are, you certainly don't know where to look for the answer, period.
So, again, I understand. To an extent.
First. Come to grips with the fact that every person here is a volunteer. If you want to pay someone to be your beck-and-call mycologist, make an offer. Then you can expect on-demand help.
Second. Put yourself in our position. How many times can you tolerate reading "can I sterilize my jars by boiling them?" before you want to rip someone's head off. Seriously.
Third. Read, read, read. I'm a hypocrite for saying this because I read, read and then asked when I should have read s'more. But I got flamed sometimes and I deserved it. See item #2.
Fourth. Some people here are unnecessarily impatient. Life is hard. Wear a helmet.
Fifth. All new people are intimidated. Mycology is no less an art than, say, cultivating orchids. You will learn slowly and only after much "do-ing." HC, for example, nails mycobukkake-grade grows in her sleep. She's probably forgotten more about growing shrooms than I'll ever know. And she's done it by reading and trying.
Good luck.
splif
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toole
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Re: disappointed newbie [Re: splifner180]
#5701490 - 06/01/06 09:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lmao splif a linux to shroom comparison-
DEBIAN FTW !!
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Edited by toole (06/01/06 09:15 PM)
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notnamed000
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Re: that have been asked newbie [Re: toole]
#5701610 - 06/01/06 09:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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spicy tuna is the shit, he right, it not like it fuckin every ones day up to see a ? that they have already seen. c- mon this is a sight that is dedicated to peace and expierence. for the most part I m new and I have asked questionsthat have been asked. so what, get over yourselfs
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Birthbytongue
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Re: disappointed newbie [Re: dudefromaz]
#5701903 - 06/01/06 10:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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dudefromaz said: mmmkaaay, a noob on a rampage...
shit who are you to talk??????
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Birthbytongue
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Re: disappointed newbie [Re: dudefromaz]
#5701918 - 06/01/06 10:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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dudefromaz said: exactly the point, he said we have 2 of those,(the intermediate and advance)
and innoculatedgrief thanks dude
as a newbie i was show this http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5384341#Post5384341
don't talk shit when you're a newb. good advice. to both of you.
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Birthbytongue
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Re: disappointed newbie [Re: HippieChick]
#5701957 - 06/01/06 10:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm sure you didnt say that
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Edited by Prisoner#1 (06/01/06 11:04 PM)
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Prisoner#1
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Re: disappointed newbie [Re: AKtoker]
#5701968 - 06/01/06 11:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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AKtoker said: Also, for the most part, I don't think people are excessivly rude when telling noobs to use the search engine.
overall, it's not, often times it's simply someone misinterpreting a reasonable answer for rudeness, of course with some questions and some users it's easy to lose patience and show a little attitude, how many post do we see that are written by people that have failed to the basics of communication, people the decide |-|0\/\/ d0 1 9r0\/\/ 80 p0U|\|D$ 0Ph $|-|r00/\/\Z 1|\| 3 d4'/$ is gramaticly correct or a little more accurate, y r u soooo meen 2 da newbz we iz jes... for them I'd like to simply post one of these.
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Birthbytongue
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Re: disappointed newbie [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5701983 - 06/01/06 11:06 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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oh, by the way. my drunk ass is intelligent enough to realize that there is ALREADY a "beginner" forum... its called "Mushroom Cultivation" oh, and the "advanced" forum is called... oh jesus.. surprise... "advanced mycology"....
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EquilibriuM
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Re: that have been asked newbie [Re: notnamed000]
#5701999 - 06/01/06 11:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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notnamed000 said: c- mon this is a sight that is dedicated to peace and expierence. for the most part I m new and I have asked questionsthat have been asked. so what, get over yourselfs
Its not that, its just that so much of it is so repetitive. I like helping people and I love power plants but I get bored and sometimes annoyed with repetitive questions. I must have answered "how many grams can I get off of a cake?" at least 15 times. Or how about "Do I really need a pressure cooker for grain?" - Then you answer with "Yes." because your tired of answering basic questions over and over and over that don't interest you at all, questions that don't fire synapses when you think about them... Then they ask you, "Why not?" and you want to beat your head against the computer screen like foomanshrooms avitar (I think thats the one). They print mycology books for a reason you know But really, I think its great, everyone should grow mushrooms. I want to help people be successful. Just try and have a little bit of respect and humility when you lack knowledge and experience. Everyone asks a stupid question once in a while, but try not to make a habit of it, and try not to encourage its overabundance. Real time chat is good for asking stupid questions, message board postings are better for more complex and intelligent thought.
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Birthbytongue
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Re: that have been asked newbie [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5702022 - 06/01/06 11:13 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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hey prisoner... these newbs won't read far enough to realize you changed my original post... pfhhhh mods...
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Prisoner#1
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Re: that have been asked newbie [Re: Birthbytongue]
#5702043 - 06/01/06 11:19 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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no but us mods do read it and some of us hand out bans and warning for them.... I think my edit sufficed in getting the point across that it wasnt really apropriate and a little inflamitory, but then again, it could also simply be that there was a small communication breakdown and I misinterpreted what you were saying as being inflamitory... you were given the benefit of the doubt.
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Birthbytongue
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Re: that have been asked newbie [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5702073 - 06/01/06 11:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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agh. no mean to insult. i just happen to be of the opinion that people of minor status shouldn't even attempt to cultivate mushrooms. even the legal kind as it could do irreparable damage to any sort of legalization attempt. i'm guessing it was a breakdown in communication. if not i'd like to understand.?
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Edited by Birthbytongue (06/01/06 11:30 PM)
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notnamed000
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Re: that have been asked newbie [Re: trentallica]
#5702080 - 06/01/06 11:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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ok,thanx for the info, Ill try to keep thatin mind. I understand question like how many grams do I get out of a cake but frankly I haven't seen to many of those. anyways you seem very reasonable so don't sweat the small stuff. someone of Ur intelligence would have the self composure to disregard such things. I'm not insulting you or being cynical in any way I just don't see why people get there panties in in a knot. You are not necessarily one of them just speaking in generalities
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Re: that have been asked newbie [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5702096 - 06/01/06 11:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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EquilibriuM said: "how many grams can I get off of a cake?"
as many as it will produce 
"Do I really need a pressure cooker for grain?"
no, green is a pretty color, it's less attractive in the jars than it is in the trash though 
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Everyone asks a stupid question once in a while, but try not to make a habit of it, and try not to encourage its overabundance.
I see the only stupid questions as the ones that people are afraid to ask, once asked, it's not so stupid, stupid answers are pretty abundant too but peopel arent bitching about them. there are repetative questions and as everyone has said, UTFSE...
well for some the search engine is a little confusing, the results it returns can be more so, it can be overwhelming to see 22987 results show up. something people dont do is give little hints about search engine use, things like threads made in the last month or week, main posts only and date parsing. the results page comes up with a jumbled mess that frustrates the no0bs that are using it because they see several pages with the same title and a few different ones mixed in.
theres lots of ways to help, these are just a few.
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