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I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out???
    #5698130 - 06/01/06 02:16 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I went into a field without permission. The farmer saw me and shot me in the bottocks with saltrock. I have tried to pick it out with a knife, but its in too deep. I tried warm water to disolve it but it just made the pain worse. Does anyone know a good way to get it out? It is immencely painful. A quick reply would be greatly appreciated. :rolleyes: :eek: :rolleyes: :blush: :blush: :blush:


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: shamanamba]
    #5698180 - 06/01/06 02:37 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i would definately go see a doctor as you could ver well have gun powder along with salt embedded inside of you. you are also definately facing a iminent infection.

are you bleeding, if so how bad. and still.. go see a doctor


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5698292 - 06/01/06 03:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

there was actually almost no bleeding. the salt went clean through the skin and about and inch and a half into the tissue. the holes where the salt went through are clean with no sign of powder residue. a friend just told me that the salt will disolve and absorb into my body. is that accurate?


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: shamanamba]
    #5698303 - 06/01/06 03:31 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i might be wrong, but isn't it possible that the speed the salt was going scolded any viens shut...plus the salt stops bleeding to if im not mistaken.

but adding water to it isn't smart because bacterial ect need water to live in...like moist dark places.

if i was a doctor i would shoot you up with a LC syringe and send you home.

but really go to a hospital, you could have organ damage ect. lots of possible problems


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5698358 - 06/01/06 03:50 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Not too sure about getting organ damage from getting a small puncture in the butt. But the heat of it could have burnt the veins shut thus no bleeding, and water shouldnt be applied to much, but it would be good to do a one time cleaning and then dry it as best as possible.
And a doctors visit is recommended, but, atleast here in the states, if you have any fight wounds or shots or anything it gets reported to the police and if the farmer ever decides to call the cops to make a complaint about an intruder, his medical record will show up.
But still a doctor is recommended due to the possible burns, depth of the wounds, possible infections, etc etc.


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: shamanamba]
    #5698664 - 06/01/06 07:31 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Dr.

... lawsuit? If the farmer didn't have any signs up, try to fuck his shit up. Shooting someone in the ass is uncalled for.
I think the law says that there has to be no tresspassing signs to constitute a trespassing charge. And than the farmer has to give you 3 verbal warnings before he can use force, deadly or otherwise to stop you.


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: Dreamer987]
    #5698784 - 06/01/06 08:42 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

He did admit to entering the property without admission. It's not the farmers fault. He's lucky he didn't use anything else.

Go see a doctor.


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: Dreamer987]
    #5699011 - 06/01/06 10:14 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Dr.

... lawsuit? If the farmer didn't have any signs up, try to fuck his shit up. Shooting someone in the ass is uncalled for.
I think the law says that there has to be no tresspassing signs to constitute a trespassing charge. And than the farmer has to give you 3 verbal warnings before he can use force, deadly or otherwise to stop you.




In many parts of the country, a shotgun filled with rock-salt is considered the "nice" way to warn someone off your property. This guy is lucky he didnt get some birdshot or something. Go see a doc if your really worried, but I'd bet you'll be fine.


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: CaRnAgECaNdY]
    #5699013 - 06/01/06 10:14 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

yes, takes one to know one. see a doctor.

long story short, i dont have a good track record with farmers. my #1 reason for learning cultivation.


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    #5699766 - 06/01/06 01:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: dr_gonz]
    #5699847 - 06/01/06 02:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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He did admit to entering the property without admission. It's not the farmers fault. He's lucky he didn't use anything else.

Go see a doctor.



Anyone that would shoot someone for walking around in their yard has severe problems.

I would understand if it was in his house, and then I would understand lethal force too....

but man you were unarmed weren't you? And he had a shotgun..... where is shooting necessary? Yell "what the hell are you doing" point the shotgun at him and tell him to leave.

That's just not right.

You generally cannot use excessive and dangerous force like that without proper warning....... especially considering the person was unarmed and not even aware that he was about to be shot.


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: leery11]
    #5702776 - 06/02/06 02:37 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

AFAIK, rock salt ammunition is not considered to be deadly force. It's designed to be a nonlethal deterrent.

I bet it must have hurt like a fucking bitch, too.


In a nutshell, you need to see a doctor. If it does get infected, then you've got problems.


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: Konnrade]
    #5702965 - 06/02/06 05:32 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

so .. hows your ass doing heh


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: ohmatic]
    #5703309 - 06/02/06 08:52 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

if he wasn't in danger of injury, he used excessive force and you should sue his ass. If you are in Louisiana and need a lawyer PM me. That's bullshit.


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: loopin20]
    #5703325 - 06/02/06 09:00 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

the farmer was in the right... he used nonlethal force to get you to leave and i doubt that you could win against a trespassing charge in court... and like dr.gonz said, what were you doing in his field in the first place?


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: wortiesbo]
    #5703496 - 06/02/06 10:19 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It doesn't matter whether you were trespassing. If someone uses excessive force (and it doesn't have to be illegal), then it is actionable. Yeah, you are wrong for having trespassed and you may have charges brought against you criminally for having done so, but that doesn't mean the guy can shoot you. You weren't breaking into his house or threatening him or anyone or anything. It's like the guy on the news who stole the old ladies purse and the taxi driver runs him down and doesn't run him over but pins him to a wall with his car and breaks his leg. The taxi driver will get his ass sued and will pay. I know a guy who hooked up a booby trap in his pawn shop and this kid breaks in and gets all cut up. It wasn't lethal, but he sued and he won.


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: loopin20]
    #5703651 - 06/02/06 11:03 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

hm...ok, let's see.  receive criminal charges just to get 'revenge', in this case, or deal with the fact he did something he shouldn'tve and now he's paying the price.

Let's think about this for a second  :rolleyes:


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: demiu5]
    #5703688 - 06/02/06 11:14 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

My wife is a nurse, I can tell you exactly what they'll do in a situation like this.

If you go to a normal doc he will tell you to go to the ER. If you go to the ER they will just give you a shot of antibiotics and possible try to wash it out by spraying water with a plastic syringe. They might try to remove some of the pieces if they are large, but since it is really just salt it will dissolve in a couple days and most. If it looks like it could become infected you should go to the ER for the antibiotics, the infection is the most dangerous part of getting shot in the ass. But, since it's salt, it is inherently disinfected. I would soak my ass in a bath tub and take some hardcore pain killers.

I guess you won't be on his property again. He probably hopes you tell your friends as well.


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: tallgreen]
    #5703707 - 06/02/06 11:19 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

BTW, give thanks to god, jesus, and everyone else that it did not hit your balls! Ouch.


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: tallgreen]
    #5705034 - 06/02/06 06:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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BTW, give thanks to god, jesus, and everyone else that it did not hit your balls! Ouch.





haha!! so true!


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: loopin20]
    #5705052 - 06/02/06 06:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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It doesn't matter whether you were trespassing.  If someone uses excessive force (and it doesn't have to be illegal), then it is actionable.





first off, its his word against theirs. the guy could say he felt threatened and didnt want to endager himself by taking a chance. someone tresspasses they get shot, big woop.

and was it excessive? excessive is one of those words which are undefined. where do you draw the line of what is excessive and what isnt. since it was just a salt gun and aimed below the wait so as to avoid any important internal organs, it probably would not be considered excessive.
but then again, this is america.... girlfriend gos to McDonalds, buys a coffee, then throws the coffee on her boyfriend cause they were arguing, and who gets sued in the end?? McDonalds...  :suicide:


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: eligal]
    #5706945 - 06/03/06 09:44 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The bottom line is property owners have many responsibilities and cant just go around shooting people. If that farmer does that frequently enough someone will eventually shoot back with live rounds and he will learn his lesson. Or he will get sued and lose. If the farmer did shoot an unarmed person with real ammo because he felt "threatened" he might get away with it once ( in florida or texas)but if he ever did it again the police would nail him. You really cant apply those laws more than once except in extreme cases because the police will understand that you are a psycho.


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: Konnrade]
    #5707581 - 06/03/06 02:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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AFAIK, rock salt ammunition is not considered to be deadly force. It's designed to be a nonlethal deterrent.

I bet it must have hurt like a fucking bitch, too.


In a nutshell, you need to see a doctor. If it does get infected, then you've got problems.




fuck that.. you shot someone with a bb gun or a paintball gun in NY and its the same as shooting them with a 9mm...


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: shamanamba]
    #5707633 - 06/03/06 02:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: dreamland]
    #5707860 - 06/03/06 03:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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The bottom line is property owners have many responsibilities and cant just go around shooting people. 




not even intruders? tresspassers? illegal entery? if you have a family, would a stranger on your property not make you worry for the security of your family?
a mans main responsibility is his family.


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If that farmer does that frequently enough someone will eventually shoot back with live rounds and he will learn his lesson.




how often do you people go takin walks in other peoples yards?  :confused:


Quote:

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If the farmer did shoot an unarmed person with real ammo because he felt "threatened" he might get away with it once ( in florida or texas)but if he ever did it again the police would nail him.





but thats the whole point of what we are talkin about. it wasnt a real gun. it was a salt gun. there are too many "ifs" that we could apply which would send the farmer to jail. but its not about the "ifs", its about what really happened...


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You really cant apply those laws more than once except in extreme cases because the police will understand that you are a psycho.




the police dont decide whether you are guilty, the judge does.
and what, you can only defend your family once?
uhp! you used youre one time to protect your family, now open the door and step aside and let this stranger inside and may he do as he wishes.  :smile:


if someone threatens me or my family, ill do what ever i have to do to protect me and my family and ill do it as many times as i have to.


no flame intended but stop being a mommas boy a realise that you can not trespass and expect to be treated with silky pillows.


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: eligal]
    #5711188 - 06/04/06 01:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Finally got a chance to come back here. hey guys, in answer to a few questions... I was out there in the field doing exactly what anyone else on here would have been doing. yes it hurt. no its not infected. i never went to see a doctor. i wasnt armed. he gave no warning, which is the really shitty part. i was in the middle of bending over to pick up a shroomie and then it happened. my bottox cheeck suddenly became engulfed with pain and that portion of my pants just dissapeared. even though there was no yelling or warning or anything, i knew exactly what was happening and got the hell out of there. the salt still hasnt absorbed, but its getting closer to the surface so i've been able to pick some out. i've been keeping the wounds clean with alcohol. so now i'm going to be using bullet proof underware and a different field... lesson learned, battle scar taken. hahaha


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: shamanamba]
    #5711968 - 06/04/06 05:16 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i have a feeling that your rock salt story is a bunch of horse shit.

rock salt is light and has poor ballistic properties... it does not hold a good pattern and rapidly loses velocity over distance. even lead bird shot at a distance is pretty weak against humans. rock salt, with its low density and boxy, irregular shape, would have difficulty making it to the target, let alone punching through clothing and then through flesh.

also, there is no legal distinction seperating "lethal" and "non-lethal" when you're talking about stuff coming out the end of a shotgun. if you are going to fire a shotgun at someone, it doesn't matter if it has confetti in it, you had better be justified by law in using lethal force, lest you end up in prison.

most gun owners know these facts, and for this reason, the whole rock salt thing is mostly anecdotal... pretty much no one actually does it, at least not anymore.

this guy:

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040904/NEWS01/409040330/1001/NEWS

was shot with rock salt indoors at close range, and it only left a welt. from how far away do you claim to have been shot by this farmer in his field?


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: Dreamer987]
    #5711976 - 06/04/06 05:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

And than the farmer has to give you 3 verbal warnings before he can use force, deadly or otherwise to stop you.

where did you read that "3 verbal warnings" bit?


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: Konnrade]
    #5712004 - 06/04/06 05:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

AFAIK, rock salt ammunition is not considered to be deadly force. It's designed to be a nonlethal deterrent.

no, it's designed for curing food. show me a commercially available shotshell loaded with rock salt. you won't be able to find one, because it's a legal mess to shoot someone with rock salt. you'd probably go down on charges ranging from aggravated assault to attempted murder.


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: wilshire]
    #5712118 - 06/04/06 05:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

hence the "AFAIK" part, I'm definitely not an expert in that area :shrug:


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: leery11]
    #5712487 - 06/04/06 07:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

Desiree said:
He did admit to entering the property without admission. It's not the farmers fault. He's lucky he didn't use anything else.

Go see a doctor.



Anyone that would shoot someone for walking around in their yard has severe problems.

I would understand if it was in his house, and then I would understand lethal force too....

but man you were unarmed weren't you? And he had a shotgun..... where is shooting necessary? Yell "what the hell are you doing" point the shotgun at him and tell him to leave.

That's just not right.

You generally cannot use excessive and dangerous force like that without proper warning....... especially considering the person was unarmed and not even aware that he was about to be shot.




He shot him with SALT...not bullets. Depending on what I was protecting in my yard...I may be tempted to buy a shotgun to. Salt only.


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: CaRnAgECaNdY]
    #5712780 - 06/04/06 09:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i assure everyone this wasnt a joke, although i'm still laughing at myself and kicking myself in the ass about it (the healthy cheek). I was about 4 yards from the back porch of the house. yes, stupid, i know. I'm doing fine though. it's not that bad anymore. the bruising around the little holes has gone away and there's still no sign of infection. if anyone is REALLY that sceptical and still thinks i would have posted something this stupid just as a joke, then i have pics readily available, assuming its ok to post a picture of my butt. lol.


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: shamanamba]
    #5712941 - 06/04/06 09:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Its allowed.

Post pics.

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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: wilshire]
    #5713045 - 06/04/06 10:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

"I was about 4 yards from the back porch of the house."

awww, o.k. that was your bad.


and to wilshire. I'm no expert, and i don't have firsthand experience, but having lived in the country, it is common knoledge that rednecks like to shoot people with saltrock out of they'r shotguns. Don't ask me why.


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: shamanamba]
    #5713666 - 06/05/06 01:08 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

LOL, I'd like to see those pics.

Also, I'm glad you're okay.


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Re: I got shot with saltrock...How do i get it out??? [Re: shamanamba]
    #5713761 - 06/05/06 01:39 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

pics!!
:grin:


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