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The other side of Eternity
    #5697845 - 06/01/06 01:05 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

What's it like existing in an afterlife for 1,000,000,000,000,000 years? Would you want out? I always thought I'd get bored in Judeo-Christian Heaven. I mean sure hanging out with dead relatives is fun and all but after a lifetime (100yrs) wouldn't it become trite? You can only play SimExistance for so long.

But what do You think?


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Re: The other side of Eternity [Re: magiciangob]
    #5697936 - 06/01/06 01:26 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Your conceptualizing human existence to the afterlife. I think our senses or our beings change totally,

What we change into, I don't know, maybe just pure energy, as we die we become part of everything.

Our consiousness evolves and disolves as one, I felt this in my ego death experiences, but who knows, maybe its just what ever we want..


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Re: The other side of Eternity [Re: magiciangob]
    #5698983 - 06/01/06 10:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I don't know. But I imagine that after 1,000,000,000,000,000 years in one place I'd be fairly bored too.


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Re: The other side of Eternity [Re: magiciangob]
    #5699421 - 06/01/06 12:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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magiciangob said:
What's it like existing in an afterlife for 1,000,000,000,000,000 years? Would you want out? I always thought I'd get bored in Judeo-Christian Heaven. I mean sure hanging out with dead relatives is fun and all but after a lifetime (100yrs) wouldn't it become trite? You can only play SimExistance for so long.

But what do You think?




Years? Who said there would be time there? Just existence.
And saying you would get bored is like saying you would sooner or later get horny and want to masturbate, both are biological functions, and really have little to do with the christian concept of a soul.
Souls don't get bored because boredom is an animal brain function.


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Re: The other side of Eternity [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5700247 - 06/01/06 04:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Souls dont get bored. I get bored. I dont have a soul? Or Im not really bored its just my animal brain existance that is bored. I am both my animal brains existance and souls existance which I call me. When I die only my soul is left. I am no longer me?

Also what about the whole Christianity ressurection thing? Like Jesus comes back and raises the dead. Does he raise our biological animal brains?

What are the Jewish conceptions of the soul and afterlife. It is my understanding Rabbis don't know what happens in the afterlife so don't comment about it but I maybe mistaken.


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Re: The other side of Eternity [Re: magiciangob]
    #5700396 - 06/01/06 04:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Souls dont get bored. I get bored. I dont have a soul? Or Im not really bored its just my animal brain existance that is bored. I am both my animal brains existance and souls existance which I call me. When I die only my soul is left. I am no longer me?

Also what about the whole Christianity ressurection thing? Like Jesus comes back and raises the dead. Does he raise our biological animal brains?

What are the Jewish conceptions of the soul and afterlife. It is my understanding Rabbis don't know what happens in the afterlife so don't comment about it but I maybe mistaken.




You also sometimes feel like pissing, does that mean your soul has such needs? nope


And yes, Jesus raises you in the full Adama/Eve biological concept of a human being, you get to be hungry, happy, ,thirsty, sad, horny and all that your biology commands, exept that you don't age and die.
That's how god invented people, and all this trouble is only to fulfill that concept in the end. People were never ment to be spirits in heaven, but powerfull organic beings guarding the havenly garden that earth was.
Even those dead in heaven are only waiting to return when the coast is clear, to once again fullfill their organic existence.


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Re: The other side of Eternity [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5700443 - 06/01/06 04:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

also..
Some christian sects, like Jehowas witnesses don't even believe in the soul, and accept the official scientific model of human beings. They believe that the dead are really dead, and that are simply waiting to be recreated after the end of this world.

There are enough places in the bible to support both views, depending how you interpret the words.

The word "spirit" and "soul" can mean many things.
Same way that a word "demon" could have simply ment an illness (posessions by demons), a soul could have ment an abstract concept to describe the recreatable essence of a human being (like DNA,memories etc.)
But also, those words could be interpreted in the other way, that
there is some kind of consciousness which isn't a function of the brain.

The fact that Jesus went into heaven in flesh, really leans more toward the first idea, because It's difficult to imagine a place where both spirits and people of flesh live together. But then there is the whole concept that souls are being created by god before birth, the Gabriel silencing them etc. also suggests the second approach would be more accurate.


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I command your very souls you unbelievers
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Re: The other side of Eternity [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5700507 - 06/01/06 05:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

there is no time in eternity
eternity is a timeless place
where all things are happening at once
and you can be in two places at one, or 10 places at once

also, the type of memory you are use to is the memory of your organic brain. spiritual memory works different, and you don't notice the passage of time.

the idea that you can be "bored" in heaven is ridiculous


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