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US troops kill pregnant woman
    #5695902 - 05/31/06 05:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060531/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_women_killed

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"I was driving my car at full speed because I did not see any sign or warning from the Americans. It was not until they shot the two bullets that killed my sister and cousin that I stopped," he said. "God take revenge on the Americans and those who brought them here. They have no regard for our lives."




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Re: US troops kill pregnant woman [Re: Vvellum]
    #5695925 - 05/31/06 06:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

it's too bad her brother didn't die instead, saying he wants Allah to kill Americans.


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Re: US troops kill pregnant woman [Re: Vvellum]
    #5695968 - 05/31/06 06:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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bi0 said:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060531/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_women_killed

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"I was driving my car at full speed because I did not see any sign or warning from the Americans. It was not until they shot the two bullets that killed my sister and cousin that I stopped," he said. "God take revenge on the Americans and those who brought them here. They have no regard for our lives."








Well thankfully God isn't real and no revenge will be brought by Allah. And thankfully our troops have bigger dicks to shoot lead with at people.


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Re: US troops kill pregnant woman [Re: downforpot]
    #5695985 - 05/31/06 06:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

guess she should have been paying attention...they set up signs and have humvees set up at these checkpoints, she made some kind of threatening action toward the troops so the engaged and destroyed the threat


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Re: US troops kill pregnant woman [Re: blacksabbathrulz]
    #5696081 - 05/31/06 06:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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blacksabbathrulz said:
it's too bad her brother didn't die instead, saying he wants Allah to kill Americans.




You have to wonder why they want Allah to kill them in the first place.


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Re: US troops kill pregnant woman [Re: snoopaloop53]
    #5696234 - 05/31/06 07:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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snoopaloop53 said:
guess she should have been paying attention...they set up signs and have humvees set up at these checkpoints, she made some kind of threatening action toward the troops so the engaged and destroyed the threat




FUCK 'SAVING AMERICAN LIVES'...threat my ass..they did it to prove a point...EDIT ..and fuck isreal too..who have been known to employ similar methods...


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Re: US troops kill pregnant woman [Re: Vvellum]
    #5697087 - 05/31/06 10:16 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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U.S. forces killed two Iraqi women ... when the troops shot at a car that failed to stop at an observation post ...

The U.S. military said coalition troops fired at a car after it entered a clearly marked prohibited area near an observation post but failed to stop despite repeated visual and auditory warnings.


"I was driving my car at full speed because I did not see any sign or warning from the Americans.




So you drive your car through an observation post at full speed, you make no attempt to slow down despite repeated warnings, ...and you act surprised if you get shot at?

It is too bad that she was shot, but what do you expect?


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Re: US troops kill pregnant woman [Re: gregorio]
    #5697137 - 05/31/06 10:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

...he said there were no warnings.


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Re: US troops kill pregnant woman [Re: Vvellum]
    #5697531 - 05/31/06 11:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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The U.S. military said coalition troops fired at a car after it entered a clearly marked prohibited area near an observation post but failed to stop despite repeated visual and auditory warnings.




Who are we to believe?

The guy driving the car admitted that he was driving full speed, so I can see how it was easy to miss the warnings he was given.


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Re: US troops kill pregnant woman [Re: gregorio]
    #5697613 - 06/01/06 12:06 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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gregorio said:

Who are we to believe?






clearly you have decided


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Re: US troops kill pregnant woman [Re: gregorio]
    #5697619 - 06/01/06 12:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Now that's what I call a deterrent to speeding. Good thing I'm in the good ol USA where I can drive over 100mph and not get shot over it.

And as for Annapurna1 , well, I don't know how to answer your kind.


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Re: US troops kill pregnant woman [Re: gregorio]
    #5697878 - 06/01/06 01:14 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Who are we to believe?




well, I am among the many who trust the US military, admin, and PR less and less.

another example of dishonesty and cover-ups: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13071849/


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Re: US troops kill pregnant woman [Re: gregorio]
    #5698001 - 06/01/06 01:40 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

So you drive your car through an observation post at full speed, you make no attempt to slow down despite repeated warnings, ...and you act surprised if you get shot at?


What were these "repeated warnings"? A sign half a mile back that was put up that morning? A soldier shouting "Stop you fucking raghead" in english at the car from 50 yards away?

It is too bad that she was shot, but what do you expect?

If you can't setup a checkpoint in a competent enough manner that you can't avoid shooting pregnant women then you shouldn't be setting up checkpoints.


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Re: US troops kill pregnant woman [Re: Alex213]
    #5698489 - 06/01/06 04:53 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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If you can't setup a checkpoint in a competent enough manner that you can't avoid shooting pregnant women then you shouldn't be setting up checkpoints.




When setting up a checkpoint, the soldiers worry about making the checkpoint safe for them. It would be asinine to expect soldiers to be able to anticipate every single possible tiny little thing that might happen and to have a perfect plan in place to handle any odd event. We are talking soldiers here, not rocket scientists.

Soldiers are not meant to be police. They are trained to kill and to win wars. Soldiers should not be setting up police style checkpoints, because innocent people are going to be killed when they do. It isn't the soldiers fault, but the politicians that are trying to turn them into a police force. That being said, the driver of the car has only himself to blame for the death of his sister and cousin. Had he been driving in a reasonable manner, and paying attention, then he would not have started the chain of events that led to a death.


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Re: US troops kill pregnant woman [Re: Alex213]
    #5698561 - 06/01/06 06:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Alex213 said:
So you drive your car through an observation post at full speed, you make no attempt to slow down despite repeated warnings, ...and you act surprised if you get shot at?


What were these "repeated warnings"? A sign half a mile back that was put up that morning? A soldier shouting "Stop you fucking raghead" in english at the car from 50 yards away?

It is too bad that she was shot, but what do you expect?

If you can't setup a checkpoint in a competent enough manner that you can't avoid shooting pregnant women then you shouldn't be setting up checkpoints.





If you cannot properly drive a vehicle, don't fucking drive. There is no surprise, that there are numerous checkpoints throughout the country. If the situations we reversed, I would make sure that I knew were every little checkpoint was. Just this memorial day weekend, I knew were every "Safety Checkpoint" was in my area, and there is not even a war going on around here........


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Re: US troops kill pregnant woman [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5698741 - 06/01/06 08:24 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

If you cannot properly drive a vehicle, don't fucking drive

They didn't die from not being driven correctly. They died from being shot.

If the situations we reversed, I would make sure that I knew were every little checkpoint was.

Easy to say when you're trying to get your pregnant wife to hospital as fast as you can. You don't generally have time to call the american army and ask them where they have their checkpoints this morning. Presumably they wouldn't tell you anyway.


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Re: US troops kill pregnant woman [Re: Alex213]
    #5698964 - 06/01/06 10:02 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

> They didn't die from not being driven correctly. They died from being shot.

Had they been driving correctly, they would not have been shot, therefore, by transitive property, they were killed because of driving incorrectly. If you want to get really technical, they didn't die from getting shot, but from some complication resulting from getting shot.

> Easy to say when you're trying to get your pregnant wife to hospital as fast as you can.

Assumption. Nowhere did I read anything about a hospital, let alone a wife. Cousin and sister. This isn't Arkansas.


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Re: US troops kill pregnant woman [Re: Seuss]
    #5699007 - 06/01/06 10:13 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It says it in the first couple paragraphs in the article.


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Re: US troops kill pregnant woman [Re: Redstorm]
    #5699216 - 06/01/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

> It says it in the first couple paragraphs in the article.

Doh!  My bad.  I read the article early this morning, and did a search on this thread for "hospital".  I forgot that the article wasn't copied, just the link.  Somebody must have slapped me with a stupid stick today 'cause I keep making boneheaded mistakes.  Thanks for the correction, and for not rubbing it in.  :wink:


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Re: US troops kill pregnant woman [Re: Seuss]
    #5699245 - 06/01/06 11:49 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

No problem. I missed it the first time I read the article, so I figured others would do the same.


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