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does god care about the earth?
#5695771 - 05/31/06 05:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think he does, but not as much as some people think
God cares about the earth in so much as it is one marble in his large collection
He doesn't like to lose marbles
but if he does, no big deal. Plenty more marbles in that bag.
So, if you care about the Earth, do something about it!
Don't wait for divine intevention!
for all we know, divine intervention is the apocalypse.
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5695782 - 05/31/06 05:11 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bye bye.
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Icelander]
#5695794 - 05/31/06 05:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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you're saying that to the wrong person
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5695798 - 05/31/06 05:16 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Do you care about the earth?
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Triplexiosis]
#5695830 - 05/31/06 05:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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of course I do!
I spend 90% of my life trying to save the damned thing!
I even started walking to the 7-11 instead of driving my car
I even bought a bike!
but I am only one man. I can only do so much
the real question is, do people care about the earth?
do they want to save it, or do they want the ground they stand on to crumble underneath them?
Ultimately, I don't care one way or the other. I'm ascending when I die. Its the rest of the population I'm worried about
not everyone knows how to swim, or how to ascend.
If they do not learn before the earth is destroyed (and yes, that is inevitable), then they will perish.
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5695858 - 05/31/06 05:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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so you still drive you car, but now you also have a bike to ease the boredom when necesary? And that's all you can do? That's all of your effort to save the earth? I'm not impressed.
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Triplexiosis]
#5695867 - 05/31/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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no, I have a bike to keep myself in shape and save the air from unecessary pollution. Unfortunately, my bike is broken right now 
I tried to start recycling, but they took away all the recycling collection bins in my area. If they put the bins back at the library by my house, I would gladly start sorting and recycling my garbage.
I also help the struggle to save earth by spreading environmentalist propaganda. Like I said, saving the earth is a team effort. There's only so much one man can do! What else can I do? Your suggestions would be appreciated!
what are you doing to save the earth?
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Triplexiosis]
#5695879 - 05/31/06 05:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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NoFX - It's My Job To Keep Punk Rock Elite Lyrics
Indiscriminate I'd rather be elite
I'll choose my own shit scene
Unsubstantiated rumors flown are true
I'm here for me not you
Nonconglumurate I mean what I say
I'm not your fucking scape
Goat apparently I've alienated some
It seems my job's half done
You'll never understand it
Try to buy and brand it
I win, you lose, cause it's my job
To keep punk rock elite
This music ain't your fuckin' industry
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5695883 - 05/31/06 05:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i'm not doing anything to save the earth, too inactive to engage into environmentalist propaganda. but i don't create too much waste if that counts in any way. i have no suggestions for you either. i still didn't quite figure out do you still drive your car or not though? I'm not saying i don't appreciate the effort you do to save the earth, it's just that it seems to me you're stronger on your words than deeds.
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Triplexiosis]
#5695894 - 05/31/06 05:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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of course I drive my car!
but only when necessary.
If I can walk someplace, I'll do that. Its good excercise, and its better for the environment!
My words are my deeds.
You wanna see what I can do?
kill me, then
oh wait, you already tried!
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Triplexiosis]
#5695907 - 05/31/06 05:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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BTW, how can you activate your light body without universal love and faith?
don't confuse the martian merkaba with the real one!
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5695923 - 05/31/06 06:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Never tried to kill you, it's just... for one who spreads a certian propaganda, I asumed you would be more of a role model, than just a messenger.
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5695934 - 05/31/06 06:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why does God have to "care" about anything at all?
How can you apply such a human-level emotion to God in the first place?
Anthropocentrism at it's best.
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Triplexiosis]
#5695935 - 05/31/06 06:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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people want me to be a lot of things, because they all have their own agendas
but I can only be myself
"What else should I be? All apologies."
besides, the role model is at home in a safe place.
he only sends a pawn to deliver his message
I am that pawn, and my Higher Self is the role model.
The Higher Self is in a place you'll never get to,
because he doesn't like to be grasped at or tampered with.
nothing can change him, for he is the source of all that ever is and ever shall be.
you cannot bully the higher self,
you can only ask his advice
and if you're wise, you will listen and heed it well!
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: trendal]
#5695940 - 05/31/06 06:06 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
trendal said: Why does God have to "care" about anything at all?
How can you apply such a human-level emotion to God in the first place?
Anthropocentrism at it's best.
Indeed, you are correct sir
for God truly does not care
but if he were in human form, assuming that were possible
he would care infinitely
even to the point of thanking his killers and begging for their forgiveness
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5695951 - 05/31/06 06:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't want you to be anything, was simply trying to figure out who you are, thus my initial question.
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Triplexiosis]
#5695954 - 05/31/06 06:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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"all in all is all we are"
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5695983 - 05/31/06 06:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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so you are not you? an individual responsible for his actions?
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Triplexiosis]
#5695995 - 05/31/06 06:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm responsible for my own actions
not everyone else's
what actions have I committed to deserve the bitter punishment I swallow now?
Have I sinned? If so, how?
every day, I pray for the death of my physical incarnation
for in death, I will truly be free
and I will leave the rest of humanity in the chains and shackles in which they have placed themselves
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5696002 - 05/31/06 06:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i try not to drive too much but i kind of have to a lot of times.
i ride my bike around when i can and try to only drive to other cities or if i need to buy things , though i can and should take the bus for that and may next time around.
i have tons of bottles i need to recycle.
that's about it.
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: leery11]
#5696012 - 05/31/06 06:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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for in death, I will truly be free
and I will leave the rest of humanity in the chains and shackles in which they have placed themselves
doesn't sound very compassionate...
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: leery11]
#5696013 - 05/31/06 06:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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every little bit helps, dude 
Our earth could last millions more years, I mean Our sun has quite a bit of life left in it
but its not just a supernova sun that could destroy the earth
there is also air pollution to consider. Global warming. Nuclear threats.
any one of these factors could put an end to this earth long before it is due.
And that would be a sad waste of potential.
I have dedicated much of my life energy to the struggle to save earth from its own self-destruction.
but, since the cares of humanity lie elsewhere,
I fear it is a losing battle.
Oh well, back to the drawing board!
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Triplexiosis]
#5696037 - 05/31/06 06:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Triplexiosis said:
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for in death, I will truly be free
and I will leave the rest of humanity in the chains and shackles in which they have placed themselves
doesn't sound very compassionate...
humanity hasn't been very compassionate to me or itself, unfortunately.
what can I do? I'm not a fascist. I will not override free will to save a soul. I will not put people in chains 'for their own good'. People have already enslaved themselves for their own detriment.
the real test of a soul is
can it save itself?
only the souls who save themselves are truly free.
and thus, in expecting humanity to save itself from disaster,
I have given it the ultimate gift: freedom
for if you save yourself, you will owe no one anything
but if humanity will not save itself, then instead of the ultimate reward, it will recieve the unltimate punishment: destruction and nothingness.
I'm treating the world
as my father treated me
tough love
I used to hate my father
but these days, I respect him to the utmost.
by raising me the way he did
he allowed me to be my own man.
and that is the greatest gift he could have ever given me
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5696042 - 05/31/06 06:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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"God cares about the earth in so much as it is one marble in his large collection"
It is possible that we are alone in this universe, and all these distant stars, ancient quasars and supernovaes were merely created by God to quench our curious nature. If everything was created from nothing, it is inevitable that a creator created it.
I've many a times thought about the GAIA consciousness theory before I even knew that there was such a theory. It is quite possible that we are just aware of others, and unaware of being part of a whole.
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Fospher]
#5696060 - 05/31/06 06:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Aurthur C Clarke once wrote:
"Either we are completely alone in the universe,
or there is other conscious life out there.
Either way, the concept is staggering."
let me tell you something, old friend:
we are not alone
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5696062 - 05/31/06 06:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I try to do my part. I don't litter, I use public transportation, and I recycle.
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Basilides]
#5696064 - 05/31/06 06:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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good for you, mang
always nice to see someone who cares about something other than themselves
rock on, brother!
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5696068 - 05/31/06 06:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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much respect to you
"tough love"
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Triplexiosis]
#5696074 - 05/31/06 06:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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"this hurts me more than it hurts you"
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5696106 - 05/31/06 06:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I just plain don't fucking know. Besides those that've seen saucers fly around in Bumblefuck, USA and gotten them on videocameras that looked worse than footage of WWI, I don't think does anyone else.
I can also easily say my opinions on the converse of my previous post. Being that there are billions of stars in the Milky Way Galaxy, and that the Milky Way is just a speck, a fleck of dust in the macroscale of the universe, it would be a logical fallacy to think that we're the only ones here. But then again, who knows?

In the words of Icelander's footer, "I don't know anything, but I have many suspicions"
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Fospher]
#5696538 - 05/31/06 08:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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yes father god does care about mother earth, however mother earth is about to destroy herself to rid herself of us because of what we have done to her beauty
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: TheGus]
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5698410 - 06/01/06 04:14 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
DoctorJ said: I think he does, but not as much as some people think
God cares about the earth in so much as it is one marble in his large collection
He doesn't like to lose marbles
but if he does, no big deal. Plenty more marbles in that bag.
So, if you care about the Earth, do something about it!
Don't wait for divine intevention!
for all we know, divine intervention is the apocalypse.
well of course god cares about the earth, but people don't. People are supose to be the gardians of earth, caretakers of the earth ecosystem. The earth is dying, the problem are humans, to fix the problem, humans need to be eliminated, and other guardians place in their place (even if those others are still selected humans)
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eliminate humans?
why?
they have such interesting culture, such trying struggles
Its the greatest show on earth!
Why eliminate what can be repaired?
humans still have a chance.
I believe in them.
If only they'd believe in themselves
and take care of their environment! Take care of their provider!
for the earth cannot provide for humanity forever
thats why there are other planets
one of which is vacant
and right next door!
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
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DoctorJ said: eliminate humans?
why?
they have such interesting culture, such trying struggles
Its the greatest show on earth!
Why eliminate what can be repaired?
humans still have a chance.
I believe in them.
If only they'd believe in themselves
and take care of their environment! Take care of their provider!
for the earth cannot provide for humanity forever
thats why there are other planets
one of which is vacant
and right next door!
And can it be repaired? I don't think so. And besides, how many times to you try to repair a thing until you decide you should buy a new one?
If you are comming from a christian/jewish prespective, then it's not about chance and forgiveness, it's about selection. A test period of selection, then armagedon and the new world for the selected.
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there can be a new world for the selected
without armageddon
though I'm quite sure that when the selected ascend
those who are left will quickly make their own armageddon!
for those who would make armageddon,
are exactly the ones who won't be selected!
But really, its not about selection.
its about giving the masses access to that which is REAL.
its about throwing open the gates of heaven
so that all who wish to go there are welcome!
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5698566 - 06/01/06 06:12 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
DoctorJ said: Our earth could last millions more years, I mean Our sun has quite a bit of life left in it
but its not just a supernova sun that could destroy the earth
there is also air pollution to consider. Global warming. Nuclear threats.
any one of these factors could put an end to this earth long before it is due.
Anything that we humans do can only destroy ourselves.....the earth will heal itself and continue to produce life.
Maybe next time she will get it right.
As far as god caring about the earth.....I don't think he cares one way or the other, not really. So long as there are other places for life to flourish.....god is content.
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: niteowl]
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I don't know if god hates this world or he hates this country, but I
know theres ignorance and hatred, its growing rampant especially in
this country, I think GW helped speed this process, Alot of things
are just inexcusable, this system in opinion is failing, because
the consciousness of our people are so fucking blind it makes me sick.
I can't take the greed and the selfishness that exist, I no longer
have any goals other than the fact that I just don't want get in the
way anymore, the corruption is seeking me out and trying to take me
down systematically, before you know it this land will be like Iraq
100's of Timothy McVays, poised for destruction.
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: capliberty]
#5698591 - 06/01/06 06:36 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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well as I said, terrorism is a natural reaction to tyranny.
personally, I say ditch the whole coin
the tyranny/terror coin is just a bad penny altogether!
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5698595 - 06/01/06 06:38 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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"God is 'rest·ing' .. " -Unknown :p
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5698619 - 06/01/06 06:58 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
DoctorJ said: there can be a new world for the selected
without armageddon
though I'm quite sure that when the selected ascend
those who are left will quickly make their own armageddon!
for those who would make armageddon,
are exactly the ones who won't be selected!
But really, its not about selection.
its about giving the masses access to that which is REAL.
its about throwing open the gates of heaven
so that all who wish to go there are welcome!
well, as pleasing as it may sound, that's just not how things work with old Jehwah. In the old testament, people got selectivley killed, cities got burned, and lands got flooded, all for the sake of cleaning the land of failed humans, and Jesus said that after the days of the tribulation, it will be just like that again, only this time for good.
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
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DoctorJ said: well as I said, terrorism is a natural reaction to tyranny.
personally, I say ditch the whole coin
the tyranny/terror coin is just a bad penny altogether!
yea, tyranny and terrorism are two sides of the same thing. Same thing that drives some people to conquer and rule, also drives others to be free of that at all cost
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Gomp]
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I really do not have the luxury to develope a sense of spirituality,
the only spirtuality that I see for me is actions, not words, these
words are pointless without actions, our actions do not have to be
that complex to be effective and our sense of wisdom does not have
to be well thought out, just put one foot in front of the other,
this is no riddle, but should be taken literaly and seriously for me
at least, stall ball is destruction, there is no middle ground, you
either prosper or you perish,
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naw, Jesus and God are 2 separate beings
God is more about smiting the wicked, eternal damnation, you know, the hard goodbye
Jesus is more about healing, salvation, and resurrection.
I like new things better than old. Though I do respect the old ways
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
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DoctorJ said: naw, Jesus and God are 2 separate beings
God is more about smiting the wicked, eternal damnation, you know, the hard goodbye
Jesus is more about healing, salvation, and resurrection.
I like new things better than old. Though I do respect the old ways
Jesus is not the originator of the new way, or the source of this new philosophy, as we was only mediator between god and humans, he was the one giving them the message, but what he said is gods way, not his own, he is just a contact between god and people.
What changed with Jesus was: -you can pray to Jesus, and he can take away your pain -People are to treat each other with unconditional love, no more need to be tough -People need not to die anymore, they can be saved from death through Jesus, and Jesus was the prototype of this
It was commanded to people that they do not do any harm onto each other, because god as a creator was the one deciding who dies and who lives, as Jesus was both a man and god, he was not authorised to destroy or judge, but to show example to other humans now NOT to judge and leave it to god. But that doesn't mean god and Jesus have different opinions, the were comming fromt he same place, and Jesus was only spreading the message of his father, not his own new message.
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
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Oh, and where is the source of this idea of eternal damnation? Methinks the catholic church, and not the Bible
In the Bible, people perish, just like medicine teaches us
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Actually I don't know if its eternal but I've seen something that
quite resembled hell through my drug experiences, thats why I
believe in it partialy, not the Bible, although the bible give a good accurate descripti
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: capliberty]
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capliberty said: Actually I don't know if its eternal but I've seen something that
quite resembled hell through my drug experiences, thats why I
believe in it partialy, not the Bible, although the bible give a good accurate descripti
but you were alive friend
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: capliberty]
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You do not have to be dead to see hell, You can see hell through a
mediator, one who Satan possesses, his demons possess this person
and this exubes hell, these demons cannot physically harm this person
but through trickery and deceit he cast a self destructive spell
upon this individual, its not really a spell but a sworn loyalty
through false promises and power, one who believes in the power of
Satan is surly already dead, it is the saddest of all stories, evil
is so obvious, it will go out of its way to make it presence know,
that is why people believe in it so much, because its tangible, it
will play tricks on you, it will feed off your ignorance, and make
you follow a path to destruction without you knowing it, I barely
escaped with my life because I rejected his teaching, He his so full
of himself that he will make his highest pupils his biggest
ambassadors of blasphemy, to me its so obviously stupid, why could
anyone follow Satan, for there are horrific signs all around,
such as women screaming with terror in the river, I think they were
being tortured, eyes in shadows, strong hallucinations of phantoms
flying around, drugs do not do this alone, drugs with the
combination of mediator is how comes about, there are evil spirits
flying around in society today, most can only partial possess you
for a short period of time, but for the weak, the desperate, and the
morbid he can gain full grasp of, and make them his servants. Well
anyways I've said enough....
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5699072 - 06/01/06 10:36 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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As was stated above, humans will never affect the world to the point where it can not rebound. It will purge us before anything like that ever happened.
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Redstorm]
#5699111 - 06/01/06 11:02 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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now who's living in a fantasy land?
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5699126 - 06/01/06 11:11 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's not fantasy. The Earth has gone through numerous climate changes and catasrophic events which make anything we've done to the world look like nothing. Just because you say something, doesn't make it the truth, no matter how much your ego would like to believe.
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Redstorm]
#5699129 - 06/01/06 11:14 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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have you ever heard of underground nuclear detonation?
if we set off just a few more nukes underground, the crust of the planet will disintegrate, and Earth will become an asteroid belt between venus and mars.
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5699133 - 06/01/06 11:16 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Have any proof that what you say will happen if "we set off a few more"?
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Redstorm]
#5699151 - 06/01/06 11:20 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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google is your friend
so is common sense
you think that setting off nuclear shockwaves that rock the earth to its core doesn't weaken the earth's structural integrity?
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5699157 - 06/01/06 11:22 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm sure it does weaken the surface, but not to any depth where you would have to worry about the Earth breaking apart.
Also, you made the claim so you back it up. It's not my job to do your research for you just b/c you are too lazy to do it yourself.
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5699160 - 06/01/06 11:24 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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if we set off just a few more nukes underground, the crust of the planet will disintegrate, and Earth will become an asteroid belt between venus and mars.

I want some of what you're smoking.
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5699383 - 06/01/06 12:16 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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DoctorJ said: of course I do!
I spend 90% of my life trying to save the damned thing!
I even started walking to the 7-11 instead of driving my car
I even bought a bike!
but I am only one man. I can only do so much
the real question is, do people care about the earth?
do they want to save it, or do they want the ground they stand on to crumble underneath them?
Ultimately, I don't care one way or the other. I'm ascending when I die. Its the rest of the population I'm worried about
not everyone knows how to swim, or how to ascend.
If they do not learn before the earth is destroyed (and yes, that is inevitable), then they will perish.
sorry if this has been said
how do you know you are going to ascend?
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: sleepy]
#5699439 - 06/01/06 12:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've known that my whole life
seriously, why do you think I smile in the face of death?
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5699455 - 06/01/06 12:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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how though. have u seen a vision of u and Jesus chilling?
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: sleepy]
#5699465 - 06/01/06 12:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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well, everyone tends to return to where they came from.
I know I came from above, so thats where I'm goin when I leave!
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5699485 - 06/01/06 12:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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How do you know that?
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Redstorm]
#5699522 - 06/01/06 12:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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what started the big bang?
nobody knows!
faith: its what's for dinner
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5699615 - 06/01/06 01:06 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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DoctorJ said: what started the big bang?
nobody knows!
faith: its what's for dinner
String theorists have a pretty good idea of what started it.
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5699823 - 06/01/06 02:16 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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DoctorJ said: every little bit helps, dude 
Our earth could last millions more years, I mean Our sun has quite a bit of life left in it
but its not just a supernova sun that could destroy the earth
there is also air pollution to consider. Global warming. Nuclear threats.
any one of these factors could put an end to this earth long before it is due.
And that would be a sad waste of potential.
I have dedicated much of my life energy to the struggle to save earth from its own self-destruction.
but, since the cares of humanity lie elsewhere,
I fear it is a losing battle.
Oh well, back to the drawing board!
what if we banish people more wasteful than us from our reality, and form a new one with those who care?
I don't know how you do that...... but I've often thought this.... what if a bunch of drug-reform advocates created a reality in the "astral" and layed it upon the Earth, thereby separating ourselves into a paralell universe where all the people who want us in jail change their minds in OUR reality... but in their reality they still want us in jail, but they are stuck on another planet without them realizing it. um.
you understand what i mean.
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: leery11]
#5700105 - 06/01/06 03:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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If there were one entity that controlled it all, don't you think he is in pain as well. I mean if we experience this stuff, he must experience something quite similar. The pain, stuggle, and all life experiences he faces. The love, accomplishment he experiences.
What do you think?
Peace, Octavius
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Octavius]
#5700149 - 06/01/06 03:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think you are right
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