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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5698619 - 06/01/06 06:58 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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there can be a new world for the selected

without armageddon

though I'm quite sure that when the selected ascend

those who are left will quickly make their own armageddon!

for those who would make armageddon,

are exactly the ones who won't be selected!

But really, its not about selection.

its about giving the masses access to that which is REAL.

its about throwing open the gates of heaven

so that all who wish to go there are welcome!




well, as pleasing as it may sound, that's just not how things work with old Jehwah.
In the old testament, people got selectivley killed, cities got burned, and lands got flooded, all for the sake of cleaning the land of failed humans, and Jesus said that after the days of the tribulation, it will be just like that again, only this time for good.


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5698625 - 06/01/06 07:00 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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well as I said, terrorism is a natural reaction to tyranny.

personally, I say ditch the whole coin

the tyranny/terror coin is just a bad penny altogether!




yea, tyranny and terrorism are two sides of the same thing.
Same thing that drives some people to conquer and rule, also drives others to be free of that at all cost


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Gomp]
    #5698626 - 06/01/06 07:01 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I really do not have the luxury to develope a sense of spirituality,

the only spirtuality that I see for me is actions, not words, these

words are pointless without actions, our actions do not have to be

that complex to be effective and our sense of wisdom does not have

to be well thought out, just put one foot in front of the other,

this is no riddle, but should be taken literaly and seriously for me

at least, stall ball is destruction, there is no middle ground, you

either prosper or you perish,


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5698628 - 06/01/06 07:01 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

naw, Jesus and God are 2 separate beings

God is more about smiting the wicked, eternal damnation, you know, the hard goodbye

Jesus is more about healing, salvation, and resurrection.

I like new things better than old. Though I do respect the old ways


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5698659 - 06/01/06 07:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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naw, Jesus and God are 2 separate beings

God is more about smiting the wicked, eternal damnation, you know, the hard goodbye

Jesus is more about healing, salvation, and resurrection.

I like new things better than old. Though I do respect the old ways




Jesus is not the originator of the new way, or the source of this new philosophy, as we was only mediator between god and humans, he was the one giving them the message, but what he said is gods way, not his own, he is just a contact between god and people.

What changed with Jesus was:
-you can pray to Jesus, and he can take away your pain
-People are to treat each other with unconditional love, no more need to be tough
-People need not to die anymore, they can be saved from death through Jesus, and Jesus was the prototype of this

It was commanded to people that they do not do any harm onto each other, because god as a creator was the one deciding who dies and who lives, as Jesus was both a man and god, he was not authorised to destroy or judge, but to show example to other humans now NOT to judge and leave it to god.
But that doesn't mean god and Jesus have different opinions, the were comming fromt he same place, and Jesus was only spreading the message of his father, not his own new message.


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5698660 - 06/01/06 07:27 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Oh, and where is the source of this idea of eternal damnation?
Methinks the catholic church, and not the Bible

In the Bible, people perish, just like medicine teaches us


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5698680 - 06/01/06 07:40 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Actually I don't know if its eternal but I've seen something that

quite resembled hell through my drug experiences, thats why I

believe in it partialy, not the Bible, although the bible give a good accurate descripti


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: capliberty]
    #5698690 - 06/01/06 07:46 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Actually I don't know if its eternal but I've seen something that

quite resembled hell through my drug experiences, thats why I

believe in it partialy, not the Bible, although the bible give a good accurate descripti




but you were alive friend


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    #5698696 - 06/01/06 07:54 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: capliberty]
    #5698747 - 06/01/06 08:27 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

You do not have to be dead to see hell, You can see hell through a

mediator, one who Satan possesses, his demons possess this person

and this exubes hell, these demons cannot physically harm this person

but through trickery and deceit he cast a self destructive spell

upon this individual, its not really a spell but a sworn loyalty

through false promises and power, one who believes in the power of

Satan is surly already dead, it is the saddest of all stories, evil

is so obvious, it will go out of its way to make it presence know,

that is why people believe in it so much, because its tangible, it

will play tricks on you, it will feed off your ignorance, and make

you follow a path to destruction without you knowing it, I barely

escaped with my life because I rejected his teaching, He his so full

of himself that he will make his highest pupils his biggest

ambassadors of blasphemy, to me its so obviously stupid, why could

anyone follow Satan, for there are horrific signs all around,

such as women screaming with terror in the river, I think they were

being tortured, eyes in shadows, strong hallucinations of phantoms

flying around, drugs do not do this alone, drugs with the

combination of mediator is how comes about, there are evil spirits

flying around in society today, most can only partial possess you

for a short period of time, but for the weak, the desperate, and the

morbid he can gain full grasp of, and make them his servants. Well

anyways I've said enough....


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5699072 - 06/01/06 10:36 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

As was stated above, humans will never affect the world to the point where it can not rebound. It will purge us before anything like that ever happened.


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Redstorm]
    #5699111 - 06/01/06 11:02 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

now who's living in a fantasy land?

:lol:


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5699126 - 06/01/06 11:11 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It's not fantasy. The Earth has gone through numerous climate changes and catasrophic events which make anything we've done to the world look like nothing. Just because you say something, doesn't make it the truth, no matter how much your ego would like to believe.


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Redstorm]
    #5699129 - 06/01/06 11:14 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

have you ever heard of underground nuclear detonation?

if we set off just a few more nukes underground, the crust of the planet will disintegrate, and Earth will become an asteroid belt between venus and mars.


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5699133 - 06/01/06 11:16 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Have any proof that what you say will happen if "we set off a few more"?


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Redstorm]
    #5699151 - 06/01/06 11:20 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

google is your friend

so is common sense

you think that setting off nuclear shockwaves that rock the earth to its core doesn't weaken the earth's structural integrity?  :lol:


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5699157 - 06/01/06 11:22 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm sure it does weaken the surface, but not to any depth where you would have to worry about the Earth breaking apart.

Also, you made the claim so you back it up. It's not my job to do your research for you just b/c you are too lazy to do it yourself.


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5699160 - 06/01/06 11:24 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

if we set off just a few more nukes underground, the crust of the planet will disintegrate, and Earth will become an asteroid belt between venus and mars.

:rofl2:

I want some of what you're smoking.

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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5699383 - 06/01/06 12:16 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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of course I do!

I spend 90% of my life trying to save the damned thing!

I even started walking to the 7-11 instead of driving my car

I even bought a bike!

but I am only one man. I can only do so much

the real question is, do people care about the earth?

do they want to save it, or do they want the ground they stand on to crumble underneath them?

Ultimately, I don't care one way or the other. I'm ascending when I die. Its the rest of the population I'm worried about

not everyone knows how to swim, or how to ascend.

If they do not learn before the earth is destroyed (and yes, that is inevitable), then they will perish.




sorry if this has been said

how do you know you are going to ascend?


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: sleepy]
    #5699439 - 06/01/06 12:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I've known that my whole life

seriously, why do you think I smile in the face of death?


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