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OfflineTriplexiosis
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: leery11]
    #5696012 - 05/31/06 06:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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for in death, I will truly be free

and I will leave the rest of humanity in the chains and shackles in which they have placed themselves




doesn't sound very compassionate...


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: leery11]
    #5696013 - 05/31/06 06:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

every little bit helps, dude :thumbup:

Our earth could last millions more years, I mean Our sun has quite a bit of life left in it

but its not just a supernova sun that could destroy the earth

there is also air pollution to consider.  Global warming.  Nuclear threats. 

any one of these factors could put an end to this earth long before it is due. 

And that would be a sad waste of potential. 

I have dedicated much of my life energy to the struggle to save earth from its own self-destruction. 

but, since the cares of humanity lie elsewhere,

I fear it is a losing battle.

Oh well, back to the drawing board!
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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Triplexiosis]
    #5696037 - 05/31/06 06:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Triplexiosis said:
Quote:

for in death, I will truly be free

and I will leave the rest of humanity in the chains and shackles in which they have placed themselves




doesn't sound very compassionate...




humanity hasn't been very compassionate to me or itself, unfortunately. 

what can I do?  I'm not a fascist.  I will not override free will to save a soul.  I will not put people in chains 'for their own good'.  People have already enslaved themselves for their own detriment. 

the real test of a soul is

can it save itself?

only the souls who save themselves are truly free. 

and thus, in expecting humanity to save itself from disaster,

I have given it the ultimate gift:  freedom

for if you save yourself, you will owe no one anything

but if humanity will not save itself, then instead of the ultimate reward, it will recieve the unltimate punishment:  destruction and nothingness. 

I'm treating the world

as my father treated me

tough love

I used to hate my father

but these days, I respect him to the utmost. 

by raising me the way he did

he allowed me to be my own man. 

and that is the greatest gift he could have ever given me :heart:


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5696042 - 05/31/06 06:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

"God cares about the earth in so much as it is one marble in his large collection"

It is possible that we are alone in this universe, and all these distant stars, ancient quasars and supernovaes were merely created by God to quench our curious nature. If everything was created from nothing, it is inevitable that a creator created it.

I've many a times thought about the GAIA consciousness theory before I even knew that there was such a theory. It is quite possible that we are just aware of others, and unaware of being part of a whole.


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Fospher]
    #5696060 - 05/31/06 06:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Aurthur C Clarke once wrote:

"Either we are completely alone in the universe,

or there is other conscious life out there.

Either way, the concept is staggering."

let me tell you something, old friend:

we are not alone :smile:


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5696062 - 05/31/06 06:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I try to do my part. I don't litter, I use public transportation, and I recycle.


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Basilides]
    #5696064 - 05/31/06 06:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

good for you, mang

always nice to see someone who cares about something other than themselves

rock on, brother! :cool:


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5696068 - 05/31/06 06:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

much respect to you

"tough love"
:thumbup: :heart:


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Triplexiosis]
    #5696074 - 05/31/06 06:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

"this hurts me more than it hurts you"

:wink:


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5696106 - 05/31/06 06:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I just plain don't fucking know. Besides those that've seen saucers fly around in Bumblefuck, USA and gotten them on videocameras that looked worse than footage of WWI, I don't think does anyone else.

I can also easily say my opinions on the converse of my previous post. Being that there are billions of stars in the Milky Way Galaxy, and that the Milky Way is just a speck, a fleck of dust in the macroscale of the universe, it would be a logical fallacy to think that we're the only ones here. But then again, who knows?

:shrug:

In the words of Icelander's footer, "I don't know anything, but I have many suspicions"


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: Fospher]
    #5696538 - 05/31/06 08:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

yes father god does care about mother earth, however mother earth is about to destroy herself to rid herself of us because of what we have done to her beauty


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: TheGus]
    #5696541 - 05/31/06 08:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5698410 - 06/01/06 04:14 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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DoctorJ said:
I think he does, but not as much as some people think

God cares about the earth in so much as it is one marble in his large collection

He doesn't like to lose marbles

but if he does, no big deal. Plenty more marbles in that bag.

So, if you care about the Earth, do something about it!

Don't wait for divine intevention!

for all we know, divine intervention is the apocalypse.




well of course god cares about the earth, but people don't. People are supose to be the gardians of earth, caretakers of the earth ecosystem.
The earth is dying, the problem are humans, to fix the problem, humans need to be eliminated, and other guardians place in their place (even if those others are still selected humans)


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5698419 - 06/01/06 04:19 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

eliminate humans?

why?

they have such interesting culture, such trying struggles

Its the greatest show on earth!

Why eliminate what can be repaired?

humans still have a chance.

I believe in them.

If only they'd believe in themselves

and take care of their environment! Take care of their provider!

for the earth cannot provide for humanity forever

thats why there are other planets

one of which is vacant

and right next door!


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5698443 - 06/01/06 04:29 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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DoctorJ said:
eliminate humans?

why?

they have such interesting culture, such trying struggles

Its the greatest show on earth!

Why eliminate what can be repaired?

humans still have a chance.

I believe in them.

If only they'd believe in themselves

and take care of their environment! Take care of their provider!

for the earth cannot provide for humanity forever

thats why there are other planets

one of which is vacant

and right next door!




And can it be repaired? I don't think so.
And besides, how many times to you try to repair a thing until you decide you should buy a new one?

If you are comming from a christian/jewish prespective, then it's not about chance and forgiveness, it's about selection. A test period of selection, then armagedon and the new world for the selected.


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5698542 - 06/01/06 05:40 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

there can be a new world for the selected

without armageddon

though I'm quite sure that when the selected ascend

those who are left will quickly make their own armageddon!

for those who would make armageddon,

are exactly the ones who won't be selected!

But really, its not about selection.

its about giving the masses access to that which is REAL.

its about throwing open the gates of heaven

so that all who wish to go there are welcome!


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5698566 - 06/01/06 06:12 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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DoctorJ said:
Our earth could last millions more years, I mean Our sun has quite a bit of life left in it

but its not just a supernova sun that could destroy the earth

there is also air pollution to consider. Global warming. Nuclear threats.

any one of these factors could put an end to this earth long before it is due.




Anything that we humans do can only destroy ourselves.....the earth will heal itself and continue to produce life.

Maybe next time she will get it right.

As far as god caring about the earth.....I don't think he cares one way or the other, not really.
So long as there are other places for life to flourish.....god is content.


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: niteowl]
    #5698585 - 06/01/06 06:32 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I don't know if god hates this world or he hates this country, but I

know theres ignorance and hatred, its growing rampant especially in

this country, I think GW helped speed this process, Alot of things

are just inexcusable, this system in opinion is failing, because

the consciousness of our people are so fucking blind it makes me sick.

I can't take the greed and the selfishness that exist, I no longer

have any goals other than the fact that I just don't want get in the

way anymore, the corruption is seeking me out and trying to take me

down systematically, before you know it this land will be like Iraq

100's of Timothy McVays, poised for destruction.


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: capliberty]
    #5698591 - 06/01/06 06:36 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

well as I said, terrorism is a natural reaction to tyranny.

personally, I say ditch the whole coin

the tyranny/terror coin is just a bad penny altogether!


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Re: does god care about the earth? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5698595 - 06/01/06 06:38 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

"God is 'rest·ing' .. "
-Unknown :p


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