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Re: 2012 = not [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5695546 - 05/31/06 04:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I think there is zero chance that humans will change by that time, in fact I don't think they will go to better at all. 




Exactly. Why focus within oneself in this moment and take the responsibility to initiate change when one can simply speculate over such change occuring for everyone in the future? Its easier, and lazy people who won't take that responsibility love easy. :rolleyes:

The future never comes, which is underscored by Seuss's post. :lol: Nothing left to do but make more baseless, bullshit predictions!  :thumbup:

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Re: 2012 = not [Re: Deviate]
    #5695552 - 05/31/06 04:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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According to Maslow's hierarchy of needs




Maslow's hierchary of needs is not the be all end all description of human development, it's just one theory.




yea, the easiest thing to sacrifise is food.
I've been hungry many times in my life because I saved money for tools for self-actualisation and creativity. I think that piramid is a bunch of BS


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Re: 2012 = not [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5695566 - 05/31/06 04:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Why should you? What basis does it have beyond that of a "feeling"? I mean, what observation have you made directly from reality as it presents itself to you that is suggestive and supportive of the fact that, specificially on 2012, some sort of evolution will occur?



I never mentioned an evolution will occur exactly in 2012, actually i even said that from my perspective lots of people are eolving emotionally (as in allready happening).
As for my "feeling" that something will happen in 2012, i'm pretty sure it's just high hopes and dreams, but heck... hope never dies.


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Re: 2012 = not [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5695572 - 05/31/06 04:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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fireworks_god said:
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Silversoul said:
The obstacle to spiritual development is not poverty, but materialism.




The obstacle to spiritual development is religion. :smirk:

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lets see some proof that buddhism has never helped someone develop spiritually. lets see proof that christianity has never influenced someones's developement postively. of course in many cases religion can and is an obstacle, just like a great many things. but to it is the main obstacle is baseless. why arent all atheists buddhas then?


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Re: 2012 = not [Re: Triplexiosis]
    #5695574 - 05/31/06 04:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

evolving emotionally? Into what?!


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Re: 2012 = not [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5695582 - 05/31/06 04:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Icelander said:
Icelander it seems like you are scared in not beilieving in something 100%




From my point of observation, anyone who has to commit themselves to believing in something in such an absolute, 100% manner is doing so out of fear.

The nature of reality and our perception of it is that absolutely nothing is certain. To accept something as otherwise is close-minded.

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is it certain that nothing is certain? are you certain that someone believes something with certaintly is doing so out of fear? what is fear?


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Re: 2012 = not [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5695585 - 05/31/06 04:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

compassionate human beeing, what else?


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Re: 2012 = not [Re: Triplexiosis]
    #5695601 - 05/31/06 04:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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compassionate human beeing, what else?




You actually see more compassion?
Don't confuse liberalism and tolerance with compassion


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Re: 2012 = not [Re: Deviate]
    #5695603 - 05/31/06 04:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Deviate said:
this is ignorance at its finest.




How do you know what that statement is? That statement is vauge and practically undefined. :lol:

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but that it is the main obstacle is baseless.




I never proposed that it was the main obstacle, and it was not implied.

I would suggest that you reflect upon your statement:

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of course in many cases religion can and is an obstacle, just like a great many things.




After doing so, consider my statement in comparison to Silversoul's statement to which it was a reply. Then observe any points that I might have expressed subtly and indirectly.

Truly, why would I say such a thing? :wink:

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Like being here
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Re: 2012 = not [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5695617 - 05/31/06 04:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

"
I never proposed that it was the main obstacle, and it was not implied.

I would suggest that you reflect upon your statement: "

it was implied by the word "the".


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Re: 2012 = not [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5695635 - 05/31/06 04:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

yes I actually see more compassion. (either that or i'm completely dillusional which is possible)


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Re: 2012 = not [Re: Deviate]
    #5695657 - 05/31/06 04:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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it was implied by the word "the".




Taking into proper context, most notably, taking into consideration the quotation it was a reply to, it should be pretty obvious why the word "the" was used. Sometimes the design that is apparent within the world exists on multiple levels and is not always to be taken at face value. :grin:

Do you get it now? :wink:

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Re: 2012 = not [Re: Springs]
    #5695668 - 05/31/06 04:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Thats just it, im not talking about wishfull thinking it, what happens when you eat 10 grams of mushrooms? :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:

What does that have to do with humanity at large? I'm really having a hard time seeing where you are going here. I'm not talking about a few individuals. I'm talking about global transformation of humanity in 2012. Come on. :tongue:


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Re: 2012 = not [Re: Triplexiosis]
    #5695674 - 05/31/06 04:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

ok, give me a couple of examples, maybe I'm the one who is being delusional


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Re: 2012 = not [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5695700 - 05/31/06 04:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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OldWoodSpecter said:
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Deviate said:
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According to Maslow's hierarchy of needs




Maslow's hierchary of needs is not the be all end all description of human development, it's just one theory.




yea, the easiest thing to sacrifise is food.


I've been hungry many times in my life because I saved money for tools for self-actualisation and creativity. I think that piramid is a bunch of BS




Not when you're starving to death. I've been fasting for 8 days now and plan on 20. That has nothing to do with my basic needs or survival.


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Re: 2012 = not [Re: Icelander]
    #5695709 - 05/31/06 04:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Im talking about everyone aswell :P
You keep looking at the differences not the connection.
Being high on mushrooms and being high off of mushrooms difference? Sure some molecules in my noggin, but when you get high with out the molecules there is little difference. Unlimited, infinite, theres NO LIMITS :heart: :peace:


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Re: 2012 = not [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5695733 - 05/31/06 05:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I could go on forever describing compassion of few individuals i encounter in my day to day life. but it's there allright, completely different people keeping (or tying to) an open mind, genuinely caring, not beeing afraid of showing acceptance, kindness, support and love.
Heck... I'm a dreamer, and i'm probablly day-dreaming as writing this.

I'm not saying it's all milk and honey too...


Edited by Triplexiosis (05/31/06 05:03 PM)


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Re: 2012 = not [Re: Icelander]
    #5695748 - 05/31/06 05:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Not when you're starving to death. I've been fasting for 8 days now and plan on 20. That has nothing to do with my basic needs or survival.




Why are you fasting? Since when do you believe in abstinence and humility?


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Re: 2012 = not [Re: Springs]
    #5695756 - 05/31/06 05:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Springs said:
Im talking about everyone aswell :P
You keep looking at the differences not the connection.
Being high on mushrooms and being high off of mushrooms difference? Sure some molecules in my noggin, but when you get high with out the molecules there is little difference. Unlimited, infinite, theres NO LIMITS :heart: :peace:




I honestly have no idea what you are trying to say. :confused: Or how it relates to this thread. Sorry.


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Re: 2012 = not [Re: Icelander]
    #5695769 - 05/31/06 05:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

maybe thats the point, you think 2012 is something its not, thats what im trying to say it doesnt relate. :laugh: No need for sorry.


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