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Tyranny and Terrorism
    #5693717 - 05/31/06 02:38 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

These two go hand in hand. 

Terrorism is a natural reaction to tyranny. 

the only way to prevent terrorism is to end tyranny. 

For surely those who invoke tyranny in the first place are the true terrorists. 

thus, the 'reactionary terrorist' is merely giving te tyrant a taste of his own medicine. 

If tyrants are tired of dodging bullets from terrorists,

then they should stop giving the terrorists so much ammunition! 

For every bullet that is fired into the skull of an innocent victim, is a bullet that winds up in the hands of a terrorist.  Thus, bullets change hands from tyrants to terrorists quite often.  A bullet in the hands of a tyrant is used to do injustice.  A bullet in the hands of a terrorist is used to fight tyranny. 

and thus, the struggle continues. 

why can't we just all get along?  :smile:


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Re: Tyranny and Terrorism [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5693743 - 05/31/06 03:00 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

apathy
One entry found for apathy.


Main Entry: ap·a·thy
Pronunciation: 'a-p&-thE
Function: noun
Etymology: Greek apatheia, from apathEs without feeling, from a- + pathos emotion -- more at PATHOS
1 : lack of feeling or emotion : IMPASSIVENESS
2 : lack of interest or concern : INDIFFERENCE


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Re: Tyranny and Terrorism [Re: RosettaStoned]
    #5693751 - 05/31/06 03:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

your point being?

apathy will get you nowhere fast


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Re: Tyranny and Terrorism [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5693765 - 05/31/06 03:18 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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why can't we just all get along?




Because too many people dont even care to see that the tyrants (the real terrorists) are held accountable for their actions. Thus it continues to get worse.

But I thought it was a very good post sorry for the vague reply guess I should have been more clear.


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Edited by RosettaStoned (05/31/06 03:19 AM)


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Re: Tyranny and Terrorism [Re: RosettaStoned]
    #5693767 - 05/31/06 03:21 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

tyrants always get whats coming to them

crooked dictators are destined to lose their power

abuse of power is not tolerated by the universe, though it is often rewarded in the world.

the fact that abuse of power appears to be rewarded in the world is evidence of satan's influence. But ultimately, his promises are empty, for in reality, satan has no power.

don't give up the good fight, or the light will give up on you.


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Re: Tyranny and Terrorism [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5694079 - 05/31/06 08:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

the only way to prevent terrorism is to end tyranny.

and what do you do when tyranny is itself the goal of so many terrorist organizations?


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Re: Tyranny and Terrorism [Re: wilshire]
    #5694086 - 05/31/06 08:16 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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wilshire said:
the only way to prevent terrorism is to end tyranny.

and what do you do when tyranny is itself the goal of so many terrorist organizations?


:thumbup:


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Re: Tyranny and Terrorism [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5694178 - 05/31/06 09:28 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

If this is some sort of attempted justification of terrorism, it failed miserably. I could understand your point if terrorists mainly attacked gov't and military targets, but they don't. Every time a terrorist kills a civilian, it only strengthens the militarization of the country, and therefore, the tyrant.


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Re: Tyranny and Terrorism [Re: Redstorm]
    #5694184 - 05/31/06 09:30 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

that is a fair point, Red.


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Re: Tyranny and Terrorism [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #5694266 - 05/31/06 10:05 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

That is the same reason tyrannous governments will often label certain groups of people as terrorists. It scares the general public and allows the gov't to get away with more than they usually would be able to.


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Re: Tyranny and Terrorism [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5694294 - 05/31/06 10:14 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

In some ways you're right, but it's not just a matter of tyranny as we tend to think of it. Often, it's economic injustice that inspires terrorism. The Arab world has had a great fall from grace over the last century, and we shouldn't underestimate the power of humiliation. Middle Eastern countries that were once proud and prosperous are now in abject poverty. Meanwhile, they see the power of the US everywhere they go. It's no surprise that they feel some resentment towards the west, sometimes justifiably so(note how the west has a tendency to support whoever will sell us the cheapest oil, regardless of how they treat their own people). The solution to terrorism will have to include a solution to poverty.


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Re: Tyranny and Terrorism [Re: Redstorm]
    #5694668 - 05/31/06 12:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Redstorm said:
If this is some sort of attempted justification of terrorism, it failed miserably. I could understand your point if terrorists mainly attacked gov't and military targets, but they don't. Every time a terrorist kills a civilian, it only strengthens the militarization of the country, and therefore, the tyrant.




the purpose of terrorism is to terrorize..which is also the aim of the tyrant...as such..the tyrant is all to happy to do the terrorists' dirty work for them..which is the strengthening of the militarization of the country and the adjutant establishment of a military dictatorship...this makes me wonder if the neocons and "the terrorists" arent just two wings on the same vulture...


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Re: Tyranny and Terrorism [Re: Redstorm]
    #5694941 - 05/31/06 01:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Redstorm said:
Every time a terrorist kills a civilian, it only strengthens the militarization of the country, and therefore, the tyrant.




thats true

its a double-sided coin

I'm not trying to justify terrorism any more than I'm trying to justify tyranny!

As I said, they go hand in hand!

once again, you have completely missed the point.

I'm not trying to push one over the other

I hate them both

capische?


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Re: Tyranny and Terrorism [Re: Silversoul]
    #5696018 - 05/31/06 06:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Silversoul said:
In some ways you're right, but it's not just a matter of tyranny as we tend to think of it. Often, it's economic injustice that inspires terrorism. The Arab world has had a great fall from grace over the last century, and we shouldn't underestimate the power of humiliation. Middle Eastern countries that were once proud and prosperous are now in abject poverty.




What the fuck are you talking about? Proud? Maybe, although of what mystifies me. Prosperous? Puhleeze. If the West hadn't developed a technology to utilize a resource they have in abundance they'd still be one half step removed from cave dwelling. Their sense of humiliation is well deserved. They are so far removed from having contributed anything to the betterment of mankind in general that they should be embarrassed. Economic injustice? They need to look to their own for that.
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Meanwhile, they see the power of the US everywhere they go. It's no surprise that they feel some resentment towards the west, sometimes justifiably so(note how the west has a tendency to support whoever will sell us the cheapest oil, regardless of how they treat their own people). The solution to terrorism will have to include a solution to poverty.




If it wasn't for the West buying their oil and developing technology that uses it, and other things, they wouldn't even have what they have now. Poverty? They're not poor! As to how their leaders treat them, well, they have a centuries old history of their own despots fucking them. The West is in no way responsible for that. A backward culture being driven further backward by an absurd adherence to a belief in a mystical best friend that wants them to kill "others". Morons who have been rewarded far beyond their just desserts with fabulous resources. Just because they were there. What contribution have these "proud" troglodytes made in the last few centuries?
Yeah the US is powerful. So what. Get over it. They have been handed a gift. And this is what they do with it, try to drag everybody else into their cesspool of ignorance. They deserve zero respect


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Re: Tyranny and Terrorism [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5696054 - 05/31/06 06:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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DoctorJ said:
Quote:

Redstorm said:
Every time a terrorist kills a civilian, it only strengthens the militarization of the country, and therefore, the tyrant.




thats true

its a double-sided coin

I'm not trying to justify terrorism any more than I'm trying to justify tyranny!

As I said, they go hand in hand!




Bullshit. Mao didn't have terrorists. Stalin didn't have terrorists. Pol Pot didn't have terrorists. TYRANTS DON'T HAVE TERRORISTS. Except their own. Jesus, what grade school crap.
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once again, you have completely missed the point.

I'm not trying to push one over the other

I hate them both

capische?




They are the same.


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Re: Tyranny and Terrorism [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5696372 - 05/31/06 07:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Bullshit. Mao didn't have terrorists. Stalin didn't have terrorists. Pol Pot didn't have terrorists.




your wrong as usual...they didnt call them "terrorists"..but they still had the same kinds of scapegoats...and you conveniently left out hitler..who did actually use a terrorist act as the basis for his agenda...


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Re: Tyranny and Terrorism [Re: Annapurna1]
    #5698255 - 06/01/06 03:05 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Right wing moonbats conveniently leave out anything that doesn't fit into their story.  :grin:


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Re: Tyranny and Terrorism [Re: RosettaStoned]
    #5698928 - 06/01/06 09:51 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

As do left-wing moonbats.


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Re: Tyranny and Terrorism [Re: Redstorm]
    #5698958 - 06/01/06 09:59 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Terrorism is a natural reaction to tyranny.




terrorism is an important element of tyranny. it's a natural reaction to tyranny in the same sense that the "natural" reaction to fire is more fire.


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Re: Tyranny and Terrorism [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5699102 - 06/01/06 10:55 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
They are so far removed from having contributed anything to the betterment of mankind in general that they should be embarrassed. Economic injustice? They need to look to their own for that.





Actually they gave us algebra, to name one thing. Also, civilization started in Asia.

But since the 20th century onwards they have just been a stick in the mud.


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