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NinjaGaiden
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Should I trash these popcorn jars?
#5693090 - 05/30/06 10:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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A few pint jars of popcorn are probably about 80% done colonizing, though i'm not sure if I should even bother trying to case them. This was my first try doing corn. I normally run WBS and I think I may have simmered the corn a little too long since it seems to be breaking down a little bit, a few peices are turning a little brown and getting that oozy look. Its not that bad and like I said the mycelium is doing an ok job of covering it, but it is going a little slow. The mycelium seems a little stressed from a greater than normal ammount of "myc piss" in the jars also.
So i'm wondering if I should just trash them and start over or go through with casing when they finish? Any experienced popcorn people have success with over cooked corn?
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austin_72283
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Re: Should I trash these popcorn jars? [Re: NinjaGaiden]
#5693260 - 05/30/06 11:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i think that you should try and get the uncolonized corn out and then try to combine partial jars in a casing or you can try and flip the jars upside down ( thats what im doing before i try and rescue healthy myc and case )
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nife
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Re: Should I trash these popcorn jars? [Re: austin_72283]
#5693405 - 05/31/06 12:21 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Try and rescue them. At worst it costs you an hour and like $2 at best you get another casing.
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RogerRabbit
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Re: Should I trash these popcorn jars? [Re: nife]
#5694066 - 05/31/06 08:03 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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That 'oozy' look is bacillus, and it's also why you're seeing 'slow colonization'. An uncontaminated quart jar of popcorn will colonize fully in a week to ten days, so a pint should beat even that. Toss them out and start over with a proper spawn material. Popcorn is rich in bacterial endospores that survive the PC, which leads to wet spot bacteria far too often.
After making hundreds of popcorn jars, I decided a few years ago that the failure rate was simply too high. There's other problems with popcorn as well, such as the large kernel size which gets damaged when you spawn to manure or straw, leading to a higher rate of contamination later on.
Never try to save contaminated jars. That is unsound mycological advice. You'll stir up and release even more contaminants into your grow area, threatening your future projects.
In my experience, rye, millet, WBS, rye grass seed, and even brf are all far superior to popcorn. RR
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