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InvisibleIcelander
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Re: other people's agendas [Re: Silversoul]
    #5694361 - 05/31/06 10:30 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Icelander said:
But these days, I have learned to respect the opinions, needs, and desires of all.

Your posts do not reflect this often. You trash people often in P&S and in my personal experience in PMs. I think you're full of BS. :thumbdown:



Granted I haven't seen any of these PMs you speak of, but from what I can observe, most of the negativity I'm seeing is coming from you.  DoctorJ may have some wierd beliefs, and his cryptic responses may be annoying sometimes, but I have not seen him turn hostile towards anyone.  I think you have some anger problems that you need to work out for yourself.




Sorry but I like to call Bull Shit when I see it. I think I posted one of DJs responses to me here which you seem to have ignored. If you haven't noticed his posts in P&S it's because you don't want to. That's your business completely. :mushroom2:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: other people's agendas [Re: Silversoul]
    #5694945 - 05/31/06 01:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Silversoul said:
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you totally miss the point, as usual.

I pity your fate, doublethinker

I hope you enjoy being the greatest hero of all: empty space

luciferians fade to nothingness.  Ask Ahkunaton :smile:

if you want to have a soul, I'd suggest you quit force-feeding me yours for breakfast every morning :wink:



You know, if you want people to be on your side, you might want to start by being more straightforward with your message, without all this cryptic shit.




people should stop calling me out on personal matters in a public thread, then

that poor misguied soul is someone who knows me IRL, or thinks he does anyway.


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Invisibledemiu5
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Re: other people's agendas [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5695156 - 05/31/06 02:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Do you act differently in real life than you do here? If so, what would be the reasons?

I'm interested.


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Re: other people's agendas [Re: demiu5]
    #5695189 - 05/31/06 02:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

in real life I shut the fuck up, don't act on my beliefs

I don't fuck people over

people do that to themselves

all I have to do is sit and wait


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Re: other people's agendas [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5695204 - 05/31/06 02:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

wait for what?


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Re: other people's agendas [Re: demiu5]
    #5695259 - 05/31/06 03:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

my destiny

death and rebirth

my work is done

I'm just waiting for the rest of the world to catch up

But I won't wait much longer!

All Aboard! Next stop, the future!


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Re: other people's agendas [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5695302 - 05/31/06 03:19 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I quit. You're far too self-consumed. How can you ever stop questioning? How can you think you have the one and only way?

Please don't start the "putting words into my mouth" crap again either.
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my work is done

I'm just waiting for the rest of the world to catch up




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Re: other people's agendas [Re: demiu5]
    #5696318 - 05/31/06 07:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

DoctorJ: I would appreciate an understandable response to my reply. I can't decipher your point, which is obviously your way of telling me that I'm wrong.

Please keep things on point and logical if you choose to reply to this.


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Re: other people's agendas [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5696915 - 05/31/06 09:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

My advice is don't worry about other people at all- you can only control your own attitude. Forget about whomever may have done you wrong in the past (including this thread). Drop that baggage for some instant relief.

Stop with the transparent and grandiose ego defense and face yourself.
You are NOT Yoda or some Eastern master- you are just a confused human being. There is nothing wrong with that.

Also stop whatever drugs you are on and seek counseling immediately. Your mental illness is evident to virtually everyone reading this thread and most likely almost everyone in your life. Instead of realizing this and facing your problems you are projecting them onto other people.

Please stop wasting your energy on an elaborately constructed ego defense and redeploy that energy to face your problems. Only then can you help others in a constructive manner.


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Re: other people's agendas [Re: zorbman]
    #5697044 - 05/31/06 10:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

seek counseling?

thats your advice for ridding myself of the influence of others? seek counseling?

let me tell you something about loss:

money: I've lost more money than you ever knew existed. Whose hands did it end up in? the hands of my worst enemies.

love: I have known true love, and lost its tender kiss. The love of my life is now a disfigured tramp who will never redeem herself.

friends: I've lost most of my friends to greed and power.

family: they've all become twisted wrecks of what they used to be since I showed them my way

If anyone else had lost what I have lost in their life, they would have shot themselves a long time ago. My perserverance is unparalleled.

the only thing that cheers me up is knowing how immearsuably I have gained by losing what is measurable.

But to truly collect my reward, I must die. This does not scare or concern me.

What scares and concerns me is the possibility of having to spend another 80 years on this toilet prison planet. Another 80 years of smiley glad-hands with hidden agendas and disfunctional, insecure actresses.

So thats why I say: fuck it. I don't want the gold, I don't want the girl, I don't want this toilet earth or anything it has to offer. I'm just waitin for the bus home, man.

You can all destroy eachother all you want after I am gone. There will be nothing to hold back World War 3 then. You've all been itchin for the big one, so why the fuck not. Have fun killing yourselves, I'm peacin out of this bitch.

Every day, I meditate a little more and eat a little less. Soon I will ascend from this material prison and find my true home in the stars.

so long, and thanks for all the fish.


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Re: other people's agendas [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5697633 - 06/01/06 12:13 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Are you going to answer my reply?


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Re: other people's agendas [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5697657 - 06/01/06 12:21 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I don't really know what to say to you. I have no desire to antagonize you further, but I don't want to descend into cheesiness either lol.

I can say I do hope you find your way out of the maze you have found yourself in. And I must say I sense in you someone who is still able to help others. I think that may even be your calling if you can somehow cut through that fog that envelops you at this time.

My perserverance is unparalleled.

No, not unparalleled but strong and getting stronger. That gives me some hope for you and your situation. I hope you come to feel the same way eventually.

That light that you shine on others to discover their motivations, don't forget to turn it upon yourself now and then. It will be painful, but then most antiseptics applied to wounds hurt like hell at first.

And finally, why not? a movie quote for you.
It is the final line spoken in the movie 'Seven' by Morgan Freeman:

"Ernest Hemingway once wrote,

"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part."


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Re: other people's agendas [Re: zorbman]
    #5698301 - 06/01/06 03:29 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

my only motivation is to return to what is mine once I have helped others find what is theirs. 

Don't mind me,

just passin through,

Just visiting,

not tryin to rock the boat

if anything, I'd like to reinforce its hull

never know when the icebergs might pop up :wink:

but hey it would be nice if I had some female company while I'm here. 

I got everything I need back home

but I'm a long way away from there. 

besides, my wife is always looking for new forms

to try on.

Oh man, these last few days have really sucked, but I think I'm better now. 

a little sad for others perhaps,

but I think I'm gonna be alright :wink:


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Re: other people's agendas [Re: The_Hobbit]
    #5698353 - 06/01/06 03:48 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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hobbitcg said:
Are you going to answer my reply?






:rofl:


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Re: other people's agendas [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5707002 - 06/03/06 10:26 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The fact of the matter is that, from my own observations, Doctor J is very isolated and lonely, and this makes him sad and confused. His posts, especially in P&S, suggest that he treats the forum as his domain, in which he can act out all of the roles which he cannot in real life. I think he's focused on his identity to the point where it is completely fragmented and confused. :shrug:

I personally have put him on ignore. I cannot do anything to assist him and his situation, as he is possibly too willingly delusional to be receptive to any honest communciation amongst others here... after all, we're just his puppets. :grin: I got over trying to show him inconsistencies in his thought and trying to help him gain a sense of reason. Tuning him out is like the equivalent of switching off the aforementioned television, which is devoid of meaningful content. I'm not going to listen to the ramblings of a schizophrenic all day, especially when trying to converse with one in order to offer assistance only furthers the delusion of the schizophrenic.

I feel sorry for him, and remember back to when he didn't post in such a crazy manner. I think something happened with some relationships with women or something, based on certain things he has said. If he cannot stop putting up  the front that he does and start being open and honest with us, then he cannot even begin to do so with himself, and will not be able to be helped.

:earth: :sun: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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Re: other people's agendas [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5707205 - 06/03/06 11:39 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Same same. :frown:


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Re: other people's agendas [Re: Icelander]
    #5707332 - 06/03/06 12:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

PRAY FOR DOCTOR J!!!
GET BETTER SOON MAN!


Edited by mickdawg666 (06/03/06 03:17 PM)


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Re: other people's agendas [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5717921 - 06/06/06 04:19 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I think its sad that you choose to ignore me.  There's a lot of people I don't like or don't agree with on this forum, but I don't have anybody on ignore.  As a matter of fact, I like reading posts from people whose philosophies differ from mine, because they open my mind and present me with a challenge. 

I started this thread because I'm sick and tired of being manipulated by the people around me.  If anyone here knew me IRL (and I suspect some of you do), you would know that I've spent a lot of time getting fucked around, and people have put tremendous amounts of pressure on me to believe certain things or behave certain ways.  This is bullshit, and I'm not going to put up with it anymore.  My life is just that: MINE.  Everyone else has their own life to live, and that should be enough.  I don't understand why people always try to manipulate me!  Don't they have anything better to do?  Am I some great asset to mankind that must be constantly drawn upon or directed?  People should be their own asset, instead of making others their asset. 

Seriously, sometimes it seems like everyone wants something different from me, and that makes it hard for me to be my own person.  I'm always telling people to be themselves and leave me alone.  But they insist upon getting me involved and interfering in my life. 

Well, I have decided to stand up for myself and not let the expectations of others influence me as much.  I still believe in turning the other cheek and being a servant to mankind, but I have to draw the line somewhere.  I need a personal space to call my own, where I am the master and no one can tell me what to do.  I feel I am entitled to this. 

The world and its inhabitants have often made themselves obstacles in my path, even though my intent is only to help others.  Why anyone would mistreat such a loyal servant as myself is beyond me. 

Lets just say that I've taken a lot of shit off this planet, and yes, it effects me.  My soul can take all the pain in the world, but being in the possesion of a body has left me susceptible to negative energy.  Being exposed to all this deception and treachery has fucked me up a little, but I'm actually quite proud of myself for dealing with my hardships as well as I have.  If my life were a movie, I don't think anyone would want to watch it because there's a lot of sad parts with no purpose or resolution.  I have had to live this life, and though I try my best to grin and bear it, its hard sometimes.  People shovel all this shit on my back, and I break down and get angry, delusional, depressed, whatever. 

But as of yet, I have hurt no one but myself.  I seriously doubt that most people could go through what I've been through without freaking out and going completely postal on everyone, Tony Montana style.  At times I have considered this behavior, but I have always known I'm better than that, even though I am quite capable of inficting serious pain, perhaps even getting away with murder.  But I would rather heal my enemies than murder them, because if my enemies were healed, they wouldn't be enemies.  Besides, I believe in reincarnation, so murder doesn't really solve shit.  Killing your enemies just means that a bunch of babies will be born with chips on their shoulders.  And they'll come back for revenge.  I'd rather just avoid that viscious cycle by killing my enemies with kindness, making friends of those who would seek to hurt me (intentionally or otherwise). 

Anyway, I think I'll be a little better from now on, because I'm not alone anymore!  :smile:  I hooked up with a chick this weekend and already the healing has begun.  Hopefully I can make this one last awhile, because I already feel as though I have made a lot of progress on healing my wounds with the help of this kindred spirit.  Already, I feel better, and more able to let the past go and not let it get in the way of my present and future. 

A lot of the shitty things people have done to me in the past are still effecting me, but with the help of a little TLC, I plan to solve these problems and leave them in the dust.  Thank God for a nice girl, right when I most needed one, because it was getting so hard to face the world alone every day.  Wish me luck in making this one count! 

I appreciate all your words of advice and prayers.  I know you all care about me the way I care about you guys, its just hard to help people because we are all different and want different things out of life.  There is no such thing as universally good advice, there is only, the advice that works best for a particular person in a particular situation.  Thats why I think people should quit telling eachother what to do and who to be and just focus on their own perogatives.


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