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Re: other people's agendas [Re: demiu5]
#5692220 - 05/30/06 07:46 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: other people's agendas [Re: demiu5]
#5692225 - 05/30/06 07:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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find new people.
well, you can't just give up on your friends. We are all connected.
besides, I like to look after my investments
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so...how does this change anything?
the ebb and flow is change.
without change, we would be nothing.
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Re: other people's agendas [Re: DoctorJ]
#5692234 - 05/30/06 07:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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ok, see, like this
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besides, I like to look after my investments
and you still haven't answered how this changes anything? You do the exact same things that you say pisses you off in other people???
Your statements confuse me the more this goes on. Sorry.
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Re: other people's agendas [Re: demiu5]
#5692241 - 05/30/06 07:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: other people's agendas [Re: demiu5]
#5692247 - 05/30/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I can be a very confusing person.
but those who know me well see crystal clear.
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Re: other people's agendas [Re: demiu5]
#5692249 - 05/30/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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demius said: Your statements confuse me the more this goes on. Sorry.
DoctorJ and Baby_Hitler are the two most obscure, confusing, and interesting people on the Shroomery.
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Re: other people's agendas [Re: Icelander]
#5692258 - 05/30/06 07:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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double-talk leads to confusion. If you stuck to one thing, there would be little to no confusion.
RandalFlagg: yea, I'm becoming aware to this fact.
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Re: other people's agendas [Re: demiu5]
#5692269 - 05/30/06 07:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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my talk is only double when it is interpreted as such
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Re: other people's agendas [Re: demiu5]
#5692271 - 05/30/06 07:57 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I feel like the TV, government, media, radio, advertising, billboards, are forcing agendas on me.
Raping my mind.
And that when I'm around people who are blasting phat commercial laden beats, watching stylish commercial laden shows.... etc.... that agendas are being forced upon me against my consent.
The solution is to live alone or with likeminded people. They [media with agenda] are a collective mantra of depravity, paralysis, and self destruction.... and it's hard to get that shit out of your head.
I mean here's a case in point. I'm in the other room, some standup comic says a swear word and it goes BEEP in my head I put the word "fucking" into a sentence I'm thinking when if he hadn't swore I would have put something else in.
But it's so much more pervasive. It creates every thought you have to some extent, if you are familiar with the trips I've psoted about regarding television and lack of mental free will.
So this is really all I feel. I would gladly take someone trying to push bigotry on me.... telling me I'm wrong.... I'd take that anyday over someone pushing the ON button.
THAT... that I do no like exposure to. Toxic waste.... mantra of great evil, great power. Never ending. Always coming back to hear it just one more time. Sleeping with it as a lullabye. Exposing your young infants to it. Driving with it.
The matrix.
The nice thing about shroomery is I can say this over and over and no one seems to care, and some seem to understand.
I don't know when I'll stop ranting. I guess when I've gone long enough without having to hear a TV that I find better things to post abuot.
But people need to KNOW! The people that watch need to know moreso than you people.
Those are the hidden agendas that get under my skin. Poor little baby slipping out of stream consciousness, out of deep silence, into a sea of filth structured around sexual craving to the point of rubbing yourself raw and never being satisfied. Death and violence and bomb hymnals, odes to mankinds greatest feats. Constant demons screaming throughout the static, never in harmony with each other, always spewing dissonance from their digital mouths. Poor infant brought from silence, from God, into hell.
Now his stream to swim in is the stream of the collective mind of Satan incarnate........ he cannot tune out. He cannot ignore. His parents don't sing to him... they park him somewhere and let the TV do the singing. And so as he gets his feet on the ground, leaves the stream, his mind filled with this filth.... he calls it friend.
And he plays with it always.
Sick.
Fucking terrible.
I've felt it. I've felt the infant submerged in that sea of absolute acrid feces........degenerate filth.
Hopefully it is just my imagination. I don't think I went through it.... I may have sometimes...... but I went through it the night I experienced a lot of this stuff I'm writing about, from the infant's perspective.
Bad stuff.
Sure TV could be fantastic, the free speech channel is good.... documentaries are great. It's just the AGENDAS and the PACING put into it. Cut that out, you have a useful medium.
also south park is pretty good for its social commentary and clever satire.
-------------------- I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo! ....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human...... Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!
Edited by leery11 (05/30/06 08:00 PM)
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Re: other people's agendas [Re: DoctorJ]
#5692273 - 05/30/06 07:57 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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DoctorJ said: my talk is only double when it is interpreted as such
Wow...just ...wow.
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Re: other people's agendas [Re: DoctorJ]
#5692274 - 05/30/06 07:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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According to your logic, people are just using their freedom of speech to try to persuade you with their opinion. There's nothing wrong with that.
I think it all comes down to you. If you don't want someone's advice, then tell them so. An explanation is always preferable because logical people like to get down to the reasoning.
I realize that it's necessary to be tactful, canderous, and respectful when it comes to your friends and their beleifs/logic. However, I always felt that it is better to question in order to find an answer. Even if you can only say "I don't know". That is worthwhile because the question will be there for you to consider. Sometimes you just aren't prepared to delve into the nitty gritty stuff.
-------------------- Smoking my hobbit leaf... Please keep in mind that I am just a human being. Please read my posts carefully and interpret their meaning for yourself.
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Re: other people's agendas [Re: leery11]
#5692283 - 05/30/06 08:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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And all that relates to this thread how? Oh yeah, sorry. Someone is forcing us to watch TV.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
Edited by Icelander (05/30/06 08:01 PM)
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Re: other people's agendas [Re: leery11]
#5692286 - 05/30/06 08:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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get rid of your tv. problem solved, at least that part of it. I'm in the process, or at least trying, to take all these things, some you mentioned, out of my life.
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Re: other people's agendas [Re: The_Hobbit]
#5692293 - 05/30/06 08:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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no, people directly intervene in my life, using much more than just their mouths. they have stolen what is mine. They have corrupted my allies. they have destroyed themselves, which was never my intention.
there is no single opponent in my struggle. As long as I stand by myself, it will always be me against the world.
I'm just trying to get people on the winning team, for their own benefit.
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Re: other people's agendas [Re: DoctorJ]
#5692294 - 05/30/06 08:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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my talk is only double when it is interpreted as such
I agree to an extent. But you, as the speaker, are sending the message. If I decode the message as double-talk then is that not what it is? If not, then you need to do a better job of encoding your messages, that is if you want people to decode them correctly.
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Re: other people's agendas [Re: DoctorJ]
#5692296 - 05/30/06 08:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm just trying to get people on the winning team, for their own benefit.
There is no winning team...there is no winning, and there is no losing.
edit: you are trying to persuade people "for their own benefit"...hmmmmmmm....
your idea of "their own benefit" may not actually be to their benefit. You live your way, let them live theirs.
-------------------- channel your inner Larry David
Edited by demius (05/30/06 08:04 PM)
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Re: other people's agendas [Re: DoctorJ]
#5692319 - 05/30/06 08:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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it will always be me against the world.
Hey, I think there's a song in there somewhere.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: other people's agendas [Re: demiu5]
#5692330 - 05/30/06 08:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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demius said:
edit: you are trying to persuade people "for their own benefit"...hmmmmmmm....
do you doubt my intentions? I have done much good in this life. It hurts when people think I'm out to get them. I'm not. People are out to get themselves, and thats sad.
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If not, then you need to do a better job of encoding your messages, that is if you want people to decode them correctly.
on this, you are correct. I often find it hard to say what I truly mean. I do believe I am getting better in this regard.
but understand that relating to others my ideas has never been easy for me, simply because my ideas are complex and often confusing.
all I offer is the truth. I cant help it if others choose to make their truth ugly.
just remember, though: If I were to truly communicate, I would not use words at all. But most people can't handle that.
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Re: other people's agendas [Re: DoctorJ]
#5692353 - 05/30/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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just remember, though: If I were to truly communicate, I would not use words at all. But most people can't handle that.
For a second time, I agree with you. I've been thinking about this a lot.
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but understand that relating to others my ideas has never been easy for me, simply because my ideas are complex and often confusing.
I'd like to think the same about myself, but then I realized two things: 1) I can't get my message across to people, so I stopped trying (for the most part) for the time when it makes sense enough to me to make sense enough to others, if they want it, & 2)my ideas aren't too complex for people...they are too simple.
I don't and don't not doubt your intentions. Frankly, I don't give a damn. Why does it matter how much good you have done in your life? Why bring it up, what relevance does it have?
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Re: other people's agendas [Re: demiu5]
#5692373 - 05/30/06 08:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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a man's truly positive actions have a LOT of relevance. Tons and tons of relevance. Faith is always rewarded. The ultimate faith is rewarded ultimately.
but sometimes it takes awhile to get the reward. Don't blame me for this. If I had it my way, the reward would be instantaneous. Its less confusing that way.
and yes, my ideas are both simple and complex. They are what people make of them. I admire both sides of that coin.
but what I don't admire are pain, dishonesty, and lack of respect for others who deserve respect. The army of light will put an end to these things. It is inevitable.
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