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Tripping....just a phase.
    #5691590 - 05/30/06 05:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

While 4 hits deep, I was talking to a girl I know about going to Bonnaroo. She is going as well, and I joked around regarding mushrooms or acid and she said "Oh, Im over that phase of my life".

I have no problem at all with people who don't partake in hallucenogens, nor people who are vehemently against them.... I don't even have a problem with people who say "it just isn't for me anymore"... but she said it with such a pretentious air, as if she had "got it".

Oddly enough, the conversation turned to christianity, and she was talking about her christian beliefs and I said "oh, Im over that phase".

The conversation ended shortly thereafter.


So what do you think about people who think tripping=immaturity?


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5691606 - 05/30/06 05:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

has beens never was beens

people who trip once or twice and say they dont need it anymore, all they've done is slipped back into that low level of consciousness where they don't remember what it's like to be fully aware.


she's a quitter, lol


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Telepylus]
    #5691619 - 05/30/06 05:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

There are obviously exceptions; but the "demographic" of people who use psychedelics is young (below 30ish).


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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Telepylus]
    #5691626 - 05/30/06 05:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds exactly like a girl I knew from the philly/New Jersey area. She said she "got over that phase" in an indignant way, and then proceeded to talk about Jesus. She was lame.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Telepylus]
    #5691629 - 05/30/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe some people learn enough in a few experiences that they don't need the constant reminder? I know people like this.

For the majority, I'd say it's more like incredible revelations during the trip, that you think will change your life. But we slip back in to a lot of the same patterns, and need another 'awakening'.

Sure, it could just be a phase that you may or may not be over with. I don't see any problem with that. The problem is with thinking it *has* to be a transition phase that people need to get over or through, and that one is inferior if they're not outside the phase.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5691634 - 05/30/06 05:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

my last trip sort of scared me with the power of it. i wont be tripping again soon. But i wouldnt say im done with it either.

seems like she just did it to get high, not to actually enjoy it or learn things.

also seems like shes a bitch.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5691636 - 05/30/06 05:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

hahah

Thats a good response you gave; I would of never thought of that one. But I dont look at it as a "phase" in my life. Sure I dont do it as much as I used to. I just like to think of it as an extended "break" for now.

But is it just me who thinks this or are those who are really religious into christianity/catholism are "anti-drug" when it comes to halluncinogens?


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5691690 - 05/30/06 05:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Trips are for kids... NOT! :lol:


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5691739 - 05/30/06 06:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I don't think that calling something a phase is necessarily derogatory. I've been through phases in my life that I don't regret. But if she sounded derogatory when she said it, then fuck her. I hate arrogant people.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Osker246]
    #5691753 - 05/30/06 06:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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But is it just me who thinks this or are those who are really religious into christianity/catholism are "anti-drug" when it comes to halluncinogens?



I'm a Christian because of my psychedelic use. The two are far from incompatible.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Silversoul]
    #5691810 - 05/30/06 06:13 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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But if she sounded derogatory when she said it, then fuck her.  I hate arrogant people.




You don't know what you're talking about.

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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5691812 - 05/30/06 06:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I went into psychedellics with the opinion that it will probably be just a phase for me.

It's not that I think that the drugs are related to immaturity, it's that for a few years is going to be the only reasonable time when I can responsibly use them. Right now I'm young and not burdened by other responsibilities. In the future I'll have others to think of and won't be able to take that kind of risk.

Now is my time for severe inebriation, a few years from now, I'll need to keep sober. So, the drugs are just a phase.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Silversoul]
    #5691816 - 05/30/06 06:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Ok then so maybe I dont know what Im talkin about. I was just going by a few observations I've made with some people who were religious and Anti-drug.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5691823 - 05/30/06 06:16 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I can see where she is coming from. I had that idea pop into my head that mayby my liberal political views were just a young person thing. I quickly chased the idea away, but I could smell truth there.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Osker246]
    #5691838 - 05/30/06 06:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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But is it just me who thinks this or are those who are really religious into christianity/catholism are "anti-drug" when it comes to halluncinogens?




wooooo, someone doesn't know what they're talking about


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Nashbar]
    #5691855 - 05/30/06 06:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm done with that phase aswell I'm afraid. Shrooming 2-3 times a week for 2 months didn't treat my mind too well.... Kiddddsssss.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5691874 - 05/30/06 06:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I think it's all how you use the psychedelics in question.  For instance, tripping 1-2 times a week or even a month will push your mental stamina to the limit.  If you moderate and treat them with respect and space out your doses, you'll be far less likely to burn yourself out on them. 

I personally don't think I'll grow out of this "phase" until I've brought my sober life completely into balance.  Which could take 5, 10 or 20 years depending on how things go.  I use shrooms and other psychedelics to learn how to "be."  If I am 100% sober and am experiencing a state of total spiritual ecstasy...then I will stop tripping. 

Until then...my ego likes the bitch slap.  :smile:


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: MOTH]
    #5691889 - 05/30/06 06:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I agree. 

Just a phase?  Cool.  It means you got what you were supposed to get out of the whole thing...me....I'm not done yet.  But I am done tripping regularly.  I'm going to do big doses not that often.  When I got my life in a good place, good stability and whatnot, then I'm gonna trip huge.  Probably in a month or so.

I dont consider this a phase.  :smile:


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Nashbar]
    #5691891 - 05/30/06 06:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Terrance McKenna said, "thank god we have the drug to allow us to decide when we want to enter the spirit, and when we don't. if we were naturally in that psychadelic space we would be totally insane."

i think jesus was a guy who was basically totally tripping naturally, constantly, without the drug to decide he's coming or going.

i understand the idea christian fundamentalist have saying drugs are bad.
i'm at a point in my life where i don't really need the stuff much anymore either, and to me it doesn't do what it once did, because i'm already so tuned into it- whenever i trip now its very very weird and serious, and more scary than ever.
still, people who have never opened their minds, need the drug to do it. it's there for them to prove to god that they desire enlightenment now.

alot of kids use shrooms to get high and act stupid, it's not enlightening them.

in my experience, i've always found it odd that some people can take lsd or shrooms, and never seem to learn from it.

i'm sure jesus would agree, if you can find god through psychadelics, then more power to ya.

personally, i would've never found god if not for hallucinogenics.
and in my view, most christians and catholics know nothing about god.

if psychadelics help you find something so powerful as god consciousness, it's not a phase, it becomes a way of life.

my phase of dosing daily for years has ended yes.
but i'll still do it from time to time, not even because i want to, but because it is my duty to god. i owe the mushrooms that much.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Nashbar]
    #5691919 - 05/30/06 06:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

:mad:

I just admitted I didnt know what I was talking about. I dont need a reminder now.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5691986 - 05/30/06 06:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Exactly. It's really beneficial if you make a "real life" contract with yourself, sort of like making yourself work for your trips. If you meet a goal in your life, better yourself in some way or complete a task you've been laboring on, you then take a trip. It sort of helps you review where you've been and where you'd like to go. That's what I've been doing. It makes myself feel rewarded and gives me motivation to bust my ass most of the time, especially since afterwards it will be up for me to review in clarity, with the help of psilocybin, LSD or mescaline.

I've noticed that using psychedelics this way helps me "stay on track" so to speak.

So I can see myself using them as a life-long tool.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: MOTH]
    #5692032 - 05/30/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Let me make a clarification regarding all of this.....

I agree that "recreational" drug use is a phase, but self-exploration and learning should be a life-long pursuit. I feel that I have learned and cognited about more "important" things/aspects of life than I could have acheived being my age, completely sober.

Last night, I did open-eye meditation while tripping, and it was very amazing and enlightening.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5692114 - 05/30/06 07:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I don't know why I keep tripping because most of my experiences aren't super amazing or anything but thats because I usually have enought respect for the drug now to take less but I know that one day again I will achieve GodHead like consciousness thats the only thing that keeps me at it. Some of the shit I have seen and felt is absolutely unfuckin believable and amazing that I have no other choice but to try again from time to time even if many of the experiences are less then enjoyable. So Im a lifer like most of you all.Z

I think the people that say its just a phase have not seen what we have seen and maybe were doing it for the wrong reasons even though I myself initialy did it just for another high. Maybe they just weren't as receptive to the mind/spirit opening doors these drugs offer and never will be in this incarnation. Everything has a time and place.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Silversoul]
    #5692226 - 05/30/06 07:47 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm a Christian because of my psychedelic use.




Well, obviously you did them wrong.












Just kidding. :smile:


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Silversoul]
    #5692262 - 05/30/06 07:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm a Christian because of my psychedelic use. The two are far from incompatible.



I agree that the two can be compatible. I know many people who have discovered faith through the use of psychedelics.

I am one of those who went the other way. I was raised with very religious beliefs and my psychedelic use is a big factor in my current dis-belief of God. Of course I always harbored very skeptical feelings of my faith and beliefs before I started my psychedelic journeys.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: ToTheSummit]
    #5692301 - 05/30/06 08:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Thats what I find so fucking amazing about psychedelics. I guess they just re-affirm your previous beliefs even if they were subconscious because I can't fathom how someone can have full blown psychedelic experience and still not believe in god but it happens to alot of people I guess. I will tell you what I had some serious doubts about gods existance untill I have had doors opened for me through pyschedelic drugs.


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That's what livin' is to me
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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5692311 - 05/30/06 08:06 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Telling that girl that you are "out of that phase" in regards to Christianity was fucking sweet. A fantastic conversation-ender....

Props, bro... 

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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #5692343 - 05/30/06 08:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Thats what I find so fucking amazing about psychedelics. I guess they just re-affirm your previous beliefs even if they were subconscious because I can't fathom how someone can have full blown psychedelic experience and still not believe in god but it happens to alot of people I guess. I will tell you what I had some serious doubts about gods existance untill I have had doors opened for me through pyschedelic drugs.



But it's not just about god vs. no god. I was always spiritual on some level, but before I started getting into acid, I was more into Eastern religions. When I did acid, something felt distinctly "Christ-like" about it. Then one time I had a full-on religious experience where I had a vision of Jesus, and I haven't been the same since then. It's interesting, because I think a lot of people tend to associate psychedelics more with Eastern spirituality.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
    #5692350 - 05/30/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I like to trip at least once a year. Just to burn out the cob webs.I perfer shrooms to lsd. They seem to be easyer on the old body.


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    #5692359 - 05/30/06 08:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I can honestly say that I have gone through phases with psychedelics. Back in the good old 90's, when anybody could get all the lsd they wanted, I reached a point where it just wasn't really doing the same thing to me that it used to. I took a break for several years, then got back into it and have had some great trips ,some mediocre ones, and some downright scary ones.

After having tripped now off and on for about 15 years, I can imagine a point where my use will greatly reduce. I think I will always go to the coast at least once each fall to partake in natures bounty of mushrooms.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Silversoul]
    #5692390 - 05/30/06 08:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

While jesus is my personal lord and savior I have never had any distinct visions of him on psyches but I could say that I may have experienced what could be described as christ consciousness. Fucking amazing stuff. But just because people don't experience christ but god instead isn't all the same part of the holy trinity mind/body/spirit? The story of Jesus is amazing because its god in the flesh it shows us how we are capable of overcoming anything.


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That's what livin' is to me"
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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5692518 - 05/30/06 08:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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psilocyberin said:
Let me make a clarification regarding all of this.....

I agree that "recreational" drug use is a phase, but self-exploration and learning should be a life-long pursuit. I feel that I have learned and cognited about more "important" things/aspects of life than I could have acheived being my age, completely sober.





"self exploration" goes on but maybe the methods change. ram dass the most famous (maybe) tripper who used lsd to quicken spirit, got over the drug, if you will. he took it so much he wasnt learning and concentrates on different methods now. he recomends not getting addicted to one "method", and to remember it's the goal that is everyone's desire


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5694051 - 05/31/06 07:54 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I hope to never get it if getting it means not tripping.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Turn]
    #5694896 - 05/31/06 01:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

If you're young and conservative, you have no heart.
If you're old and liberal, you have no brain.

That was a quote I read somewhere, (not that I agree with it), but I thought it was pretty accurate to what you said.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5694937 - 05/31/06 01:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Oddly enough, the conversation turned to christianity, and she was talking about her christian beliefs and I said "oh, Im over that phase".



:lol:

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So what do you think about people who think tripping=immaturity?



I don't think that. But I can imagine at some point in life you don't feel like tripping anymore, have other more important things on your mind or get more pleasure/satisfaction out of other things.

I will probably trip once in a while for a long time, but I can predict a decrease in frequency.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: stefan]
    #5695038 - 05/31/06 02:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Living is a phase... does that mean you will quit that too


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    #5695070 - 05/31/06 02:13 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Don't worry, you'll get over it.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5695078 - 05/31/06 02:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5695319 - 05/31/06 03:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Just ONE trip on wood loving mushrooms (Psilocybe azurescens) made my hair start falling out immediately!

Bye bye to that phase!  :shocked: :crazy:


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Amatoxin]
    #5695348 - 05/31/06 03:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Just ONE trip on wood loving mushrooms (Psilocybe azurescens) made my hair start falling out immediately!

Bye bye to that phase!  :shocked: :crazy:




Shrooms carn't do that can they ?  I'm already going bald and i'm planning on taking my first trip as soon as they have finished growing.


Well, suppose my hairs going to go anyway so fuck it !


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5695401 - 05/31/06 03:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Amatoxin said:
Just ONE trip on wood loving mushrooms (Psilocybe azurescens) made my hair start falling out immediately!

Bye bye to that phase!  :shocked: :crazy:




Shrooms carn't do that can they ?  I'm already going bald and i'm planning on taking my first trip as soon as they have finished growing.


Well, suppose my hairs going to go anyway so fuck it !




Native British liberty caps (Psilocybe semilanceata) have never been a problem for me (been using them on and off for many, many years) and I have not had a problem with Psilocybe cubensis. Wood lovers scare the shit out of me though!!! It's not the trip itself, just the physical effects such as muscle paralysis, shakes/twitches, pain in the lower back (kidneys) and pretty much immediate hair loss!!!

As soon as I got in the bath the following day the water surface was thick with head hair!!!  :shocked: :crazy:

Can't say I'll be munching any wood loving Psilocybes ever again after my experience!


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Amatoxin]
    #5695676 - 05/31/06 04:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

people who become spiritualised caused of psychadelics piss me off
i do them for the fun they provide i don't ask for answers and all that hippy shit
p.s - its a phase and people who don't grow out of it end up beeing hippy no-good losers


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: grphish]
    #5695746 - 05/31/06 05:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

for someone who's been on here as long as you have I'd have thought you'd have got the hang of the 'reply to' feature by now... :crazy:

fukin rabbit fucker!  :tongue:


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Amatoxin]
    #5696400 - 05/31/06 08:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I have been dissapointed in the fact that my tripping buddys have greatly reduced the frequency in which they are up for a trip so I usually have to go it alone. Anyone else have this problem? For them maybe it was only a phase I need a real tripping buddy.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #5696919 - 05/31/06 09:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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people who become spiritualised caused of psychadelics piss me off
i do them for the fun they provide i don't ask for answers and all that hippy shit
p.s - its a phase and people who don't grow out of it end up beeing hippy no-good losers






I feel pitty for you... buy an xbox for fun.
Entheogens provide great doors to spirituality, but i guess not everyone has the key :wink:

I don't claim psychedelics = enlightment
But it is clear that almost anyone can get a pretty interesting life insight on these drugs, i also have the theory that drugs like mushrooms FORCE you to understand spirituality and the experience of life... so maybe u should keep doing til the fun part gets old and the teaching begins.

It is much more than hippy shit, maybe u should ask for some answers.

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