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InvisibleMOTH
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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5691986 - 05/30/06 06:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Exactly. It's really beneficial if you make a "real life" contract with yourself, sort of like making yourself work for your trips. If you meet a goal in your life, better yourself in some way or complete a task you've been laboring on, you then take a trip. It sort of helps you review where you've been and where you'd like to go. That's what I've been doing. It makes myself feel rewarded and gives me motivation to bust my ass most of the time, especially since afterwards it will be up for me to review in clarity, with the help of psilocybin, LSD or mescaline.

I've noticed that using psychedelics this way helps me "stay on track" so to speak.

So I can see myself using them as a life-long tool.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: MOTH]
    #5692032 - 05/30/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Let me make a clarification regarding all of this.....

I agree that "recreational" drug use is a phase, but self-exploration and learning should be a life-long pursuit. I feel that I have learned and cognited about more "important" things/aspects of life than I could have acheived being my age, completely sober.

Last night, I did open-eye meditation while tripping, and it was very amazing and enlightening.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5692114 - 05/30/06 07:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I don't know why I keep tripping because most of my experiences aren't super amazing or anything but thats because I usually have enought respect for the drug now to take less but I know that one day again I will achieve GodHead like consciousness thats the only thing that keeps me at it. Some of the shit I have seen and felt is absolutely unfuckin believable and amazing that I have no other choice but to try again from time to time even if many of the experiences are less then enjoyable. So Im a lifer like most of you all.Z

I think the people that say its just a phase have not seen what we have seen and maybe were doing it for the wrong reasons even though I myself initialy did it just for another high. Maybe they just weren't as receptive to the mind/spirit opening doors these drugs offer and never will be in this incarnation. Everything has a time and place.


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Be lonesome and you will be free
Live a lie and you will live to regret it
That's what livin' is to me
That's what livin' is to me"
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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Silversoul]
    #5692226 - 05/30/06 07:47 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Silversoul said:
I'm a Christian because of my psychedelic use.




Well, obviously you did them wrong.












Just kidding. :smile:


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Silversoul]
    #5692262 - 05/30/06 07:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm a Christian because of my psychedelic use. The two are far from incompatible.



I agree that the two can be compatible. I know many people who have discovered faith through the use of psychedelics.

I am one of those who went the other way. I was raised with very religious beliefs and my psychedelic use is a big factor in my current dis-belief of God. Of course I always harbored very skeptical feelings of my faith and beliefs before I started my psychedelic journeys.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: ToTheSummit]
    #5692301 - 05/30/06 08:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Thats what I find so fucking amazing about psychedelics. I guess they just re-affirm your previous beliefs even if they were subconscious because I can't fathom how someone can have full blown psychedelic experience and still not believe in god but it happens to alot of people I guess. I will tell you what I had some serious doubts about gods existance untill I have had doors opened for me through pyschedelic drugs.


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Total abstinence is so excellent a thing that it cannot be carried to too great an extent. In my passion for it I even carry it so far as to totally abstain from total abstinence itself.
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"The time has come the walrus said, little oysters  hide their heads, my Twain of thought is loosely bound I guess its time to Mark this down, Be good and you will be lonesome
Be lonesome and you will be free
Live a lie and you will live to regret it
That's what livin' is to me
That's what livin' is to me"
Jimmy Buffett


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5692311 - 05/30/06 08:06 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Telling that girl that you are "out of that phase" in regards to Christianity was fucking sweet. A fantastic conversation-ender....

Props, bro... 

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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #5692343 - 05/30/06 08:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Thats what I find so fucking amazing about psychedelics. I guess they just re-affirm your previous beliefs even if they were subconscious because I can't fathom how someone can have full blown psychedelic experience and still not believe in god but it happens to alot of people I guess. I will tell you what I had some serious doubts about gods existance untill I have had doors opened for me through pyschedelic drugs.



But it's not just about god vs. no god. I was always spiritual on some level, but before I started getting into acid, I was more into Eastern religions. When I did acid, something felt distinctly "Christ-like" about it. Then one time I had a full-on religious experience where I had a vision of Jesus, and I haven't been the same since then. It's interesting, because I think a lot of people tend to associate psychedelics more with Eastern spirituality.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
    #5692350 - 05/30/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I like to trip at least once a year. Just to burn out the cob webs.I perfer shrooms to lsd. They seem to be easyer on the old body.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5692359 - 05/30/06 08:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I can honestly say that I have gone through phases with psychedelics. Back in the good old 90's, when anybody could get all the lsd they wanted, I reached a point where it just wasn't really doing the same thing to me that it used to. I took a break for several years, then got back into it and have had some great trips ,some mediocre ones, and some downright scary ones.

After having tripped now off and on for about 15 years, I can imagine a point where my use will greatly reduce. I think I will always go to the coast at least once each fall to partake in natures bounty of mushrooms.


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Edited by nicechrisman (05/30/06 08:17 PM)


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Silversoul]
    #5692390 - 05/30/06 08:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

While jesus is my personal lord and savior I have never had any distinct visions of him on psyches but I could say that I may have experienced what could be described as christ consciousness. Fucking amazing stuff. But just because people don't experience christ but god instead isn't all the same part of the holy trinity mind/body/spirit? The story of Jesus is amazing because its god in the flesh it shows us how we are capable of overcoming anything.


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Total abstinence is so excellent a thing that it cannot be carried to too great an extent. In my passion for it I even carry it so far as to totally abstain from total abstinence itself.
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"The time has come the walrus said, little oysters  hide their heads, my Twain of thought is loosely bound I guess its time to Mark this down, Be good and you will be lonesome
Be lonesome and you will be free
Live a lie and you will live to regret it
That's what livin' is to me
That's what livin' is to me"
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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5692518 - 05/30/06 08:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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psilocyberin said:
Let me make a clarification regarding all of this.....

I agree that "recreational" drug use is a phase, but self-exploration and learning should be a life-long pursuit. I feel that I have learned and cognited about more "important" things/aspects of life than I could have acheived being my age, completely sober.





"self exploration" goes on but maybe the methods change. ram dass the most famous (maybe) tripper who used lsd to quicken spirit, got over the drug, if you will. he took it so much he wasnt learning and concentrates on different methods now. he recomends not getting addicted to one "method", and to remember it's the goal that is everyone's desire


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5694051 - 05/31/06 07:54 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I hope to never get it if getting it means not tripping.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Turn]
    #5694896 - 05/31/06 01:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

If you're young and conservative, you have no heart.
If you're old and liberal, you have no brain.

That was a quote I read somewhere, (not that I agree with it), but I thought it was pretty accurate to what you said.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5694937 - 05/31/06 01:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Oddly enough, the conversation turned to christianity, and she was talking about her christian beliefs and I said "oh, Im over that phase".



:lol:

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So what do you think about people who think tripping=immaturity?



I don't think that. But I can imagine at some point in life you don't feel like tripping anymore, have other more important things on your mind or get more pleasure/satisfaction out of other things.

I will probably trip once in a while for a long time, but I can predict a decrease in frequency.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: stefan]
    #5695038 - 05/31/06 02:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Living is a phase... does that mean you will quit that too


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: danlennon3]
    #5695070 - 05/31/06 02:13 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Don't worry, you'll get over it.


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5695078 - 05/31/06 02:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5695319 - 05/31/06 03:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Just ONE trip on wood loving mushrooms (Psilocybe azurescens) made my hair start falling out immediately!

Bye bye to that phase!  :shocked: :crazy:


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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Amatoxin]
    #5695348 - 05/31/06 03:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Just ONE trip on wood loving mushrooms (Psilocybe azurescens) made my hair start falling out immediately!

Bye bye to that phase!  :shocked: :crazy:




Shrooms carn't do that can they ?  I'm already going bald and i'm planning on taking my first trip as soon as they have finished growing.


Well, suppose my hairs going to go anyway so fuck it !


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