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Tripping....just a phase.
#5691590 - 05/30/06 05:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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While 4 hits deep, I was talking to a girl I know about going to Bonnaroo. She is going as well, and I joked around regarding mushrooms or acid and she said "Oh, Im over that phase of my life".
I have no problem at all with people who don't partake in hallucenogens, nor people who are vehemently against them.... I don't even have a problem with people who say "it just isn't for me anymore"... but she said it with such a pretentious air, as if she had "got it".
Oddly enough, the conversation turned to christianity, and she was talking about her christian beliefs and I said "oh, Im over that phase".
The conversation ended shortly thereafter.
So what do you think about people who think tripping=immaturity?
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has beens never was beens
people who trip once or twice and say they dont need it anymore, all they've done is slipped back into that low level of consciousness where they don't remember what it's like to be fully aware.
she's a quitter, lol
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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Telepylus]
#5691619 - 05/30/06 05:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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There are obviously exceptions; but the "demographic" of people who use psychedelics is young (below 30ish).
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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Telepylus]
#5691626 - 05/30/06 05:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sounds exactly like a girl I knew from the philly/New Jersey area. She said she "got over that phase" in an indignant way, and then proceeded to talk about Jesus. She was lame.
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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Telepylus]
#5691629 - 05/30/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Maybe some people learn enough in a few experiences that they don't need the constant reminder? I know people like this.
For the majority, I'd say it's more like incredible revelations during the trip, that you think will change your life. But we slip back in to a lot of the same patterns, and need another 'awakening'.
Sure, it could just be a phase that you may or may not be over with. I don't see any problem with that. The problem is with thinking it *has* to be a transition phase that people need to get over or through, and that one is inferior if they're not outside the phase.
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my last trip sort of scared me with the power of it. i wont be tripping again soon. But i wouldnt say im done with it either.
seems like she just did it to get high, not to actually enjoy it or learn things.
also seems like shes a bitch.
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hahah
Thats a good response you gave; I would of never thought of that one. But I dont look at it as a "phase" in my life. Sure I dont do it as much as I used to. I just like to think of it as an extended "break" for now.
But is it just me who thinks this or are those who are really religious into christianity/catholism are "anti-drug" when it comes to halluncinogens?
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Trips are for kids... NOT!
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I don't think that calling something a phase is necessarily derogatory. I've been through phases in my life that I don't regret. But if she sounded derogatory when she said it, then fuck her. I hate arrogant people.
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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Osker246]
#5691753 - 05/30/06 06:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Osker246 said: But is it just me who thinks this or are those who are really religious into christianity/catholism are "anti-drug" when it comes to halluncinogens?
I'm a Christian because of my psychedelic use. The two are far from incompatible.
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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Silversoul]
#5691810 - 05/30/06 06:13 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Silversoul said: But if she sounded derogatory when she said it, then fuck her. I hate arrogant people.
You don't know what you're talking about.
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I went into psychedellics with the opinion that it will probably be just a phase for me.
It's not that I think that the drugs are related to immaturity, it's that for a few years is going to be the only reasonable time when I can responsibly use them. Right now I'm young and not burdened by other responsibilities. In the future I'll have others to think of and won't be able to take that kind of risk.
Now is my time for severe inebriation, a few years from now, I'll need to keep sober. So, the drugs are just a phase.
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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Silversoul]
#5691816 - 05/30/06 06:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok then so maybe I dont know what Im talkin about. I was just going by a few observations I've made with some people who were religious and Anti-drug.
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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5691823 - 05/30/06 06:16 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I can see where she is coming from. I had that idea pop into my head that mayby my liberal political views were just a young person thing. I quickly chased the idea away, but I could smell truth there.
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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Osker246]
#5691838 - 05/30/06 06:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Osker246 said: But is it just me who thinks this or are those who are really religious into christianity/catholism are "anti-drug" when it comes to halluncinogens?
wooooo, someone doesn't know what they're talking about
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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Nashbar]
#5691855 - 05/30/06 06:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm done with that phase aswell I'm afraid. Shrooming 2-3 times a week for 2 months didn't treat my mind too well.... Kiddddsssss.
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I think it's all how you use the psychedelics in question. For instance, tripping 1-2 times a week or even a month will push your mental stamina to the limit. If you moderate and treat them with respect and space out your doses, you'll be far less likely to burn yourself out on them.
I personally don't think I'll grow out of this "phase" until I've brought my sober life completely into balance. Which could take 5, 10 or 20 years depending on how things go. I use shrooms and other psychedelics to learn how to "be." If I am 100% sober and am experiencing a state of total spiritual ecstasy...then I will stop tripping.
Until then...my ego likes the bitch slap.
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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: MOTH]
#5691889 - 05/30/06 06:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I agree.
Just a phase? Cool. It means you got what you were supposed to get out of the whole thing...me....I'm not done yet. But I am done tripping regularly. I'm going to do big doses not that often. When I got my life in a good place, good stability and whatnot, then I'm gonna trip huge. Probably in a month or so.
I dont consider this a phase.
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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Nashbar]
#5691891 - 05/30/06 06:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Terrance McKenna said, "thank god we have the drug to allow us to decide when we want to enter the spirit, and when we don't. if we were naturally in that psychadelic space we would be totally insane."
i think jesus was a guy who was basically totally tripping naturally, constantly, without the drug to decide he's coming or going.
i understand the idea christian fundamentalist have saying drugs are bad. i'm at a point in my life where i don't really need the stuff much anymore either, and to me it doesn't do what it once did, because i'm already so tuned into it- whenever i trip now its very very weird and serious, and more scary than ever. still, people who have never opened their minds, need the drug to do it. it's there for them to prove to god that they desire enlightenment now.
alot of kids use shrooms to get high and act stupid, it's not enlightening them.
in my experience, i've always found it odd that some people can take lsd or shrooms, and never seem to learn from it.
i'm sure jesus would agree, if you can find god through psychadelics, then more power to ya.
personally, i would've never found god if not for hallucinogenics. and in my view, most christians and catholics know nothing about god.
if psychadelics help you find something so powerful as god consciousness, it's not a phase, it becomes a way of life.
my phase of dosing daily for years has ended yes. but i'll still do it from time to time, not even because i want to, but because it is my duty to god. i owe the mushrooms that much.
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Re: Tripping....just a phase. [Re: Nashbar]
#5691919 - 05/30/06 06:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I just admitted I didnt know what I was talking about. I dont need a reminder now.
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