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avapxia
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Music Software
#5690317 - 05/30/06 11:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Are there any programs that are better than Fruity Loops?
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Osker246
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Re: Music Software [Re: avapxia]
#5690377 - 05/30/06 11:40 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cubase SX 3...Reason 3.0...Logic Pro...Ableton Live....Pro Tools...uhhh theres more I just dont remember.
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avapxia
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Re: Music Software [Re: Osker246]
#5690391 - 05/30/06 11:44 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks, i am mostly interesting in making electronic music, not recording.
Reason 3.0 looks great.
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Re: Music Software [Re: avapxia]
#5690401 - 05/30/06 11:47 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i've got reason 2.5. it's not bad.
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Re: Music Software [Re: avapxia]
#5690404 - 05/30/06 11:48 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Reason 3.0. is a good one for starters since It comes with a bunch of VST's already. I've talked to plenty of people who reccomend 3.0 for starters, but alot of them moved on to other software as they got better at producing. But good luck and stick with it
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Re: Music Software [Re: avapxia]
#5690591 - 05/30/06 12:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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the only reason I would advise against reason is it doesn't allow outside VST's.. (virtual instruments) Which is what is so cool about making electronic music! I have cubase sx3 which has been really great.
And dont underestimate fruity. I still use it after some years. Great sequencer program.
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Re: Music Software [Re: Toddo]
#5690948 - 05/30/06 02:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cubase and Reason are both excellent programs
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Re: Music Software [Re: Toddo]
#5691013 - 05/30/06 03:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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You can do alot with reason. Reason 3 w/ Ableton Live 5 is a great combo.
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Re: Music Software [Re: Toddo]
#5691016 - 05/30/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Do you have to use a midi keyboard with Reason 3.0 & Cubase SX3???
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Re: Music Software [Re: Amatoxin]
#5691040 - 05/30/06 03:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have used Reason 2.5 and it's fun for making loops and certain kinds of music. You don't have to use a keyboard, I usually just enter sequences with the step sequencer like a TB303. But my favorite tool is Apple's Logic. It Rocks! Not only is it a complete midi/audio recording and editing app, it also comes with some nice synths right out of the box. And if you want to spend some extra cash on more synths (or get them pirated) there is a big selection. I have used ProTools quite a bit which is just plain easier when it comes to working with audio, like for recording and mixing bands. But when it comes to making electronic music with pro power, Logic is the best choice.
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Re: Music Software [Re: Amatoxin]
#5691077 - 05/30/06 03:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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You don't need a midi keyboard but will be real helpful. I would recommend getting one. It's great for tweeking/trigger multiple commands at the same time especially when performing live.
In Ableton Live, you can use your computer keyboard as a midi keyboard. Brilliant!
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Re: Music Software [Re: avapxia]
#5691092 - 05/30/06 03:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have Cubase SX 3 and an Audiophile 2496 soundcard, and the Cubase program won't interface with it. It says something about "lost connection to sound card" or whatever. I blame my shitty Elitegroup mobo, but if it doesn't work after I upgrade I don't know what in the fuck I'm going to do. I just want to make music dammit, I'm losing patience with all this computer bullshit. The learning curve is a killer, and that's just with Windows programs. Linux? Fucking forget it. Someday I will learn the ins and outs of all this stuff.
Right now I just want to and I don't have the patience for
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Re: Music Software [Re: Toddo]
#5691124 - 05/30/06 03:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Toddo said: And dont underestimate fruity. I still use it after some years. Great sequencer program.
Its quite funny that alot of people underestimate Fruity Loops. I'm not sure if you guys ever heard of Icone. He's produces/remixes epic trance in Fruity Loops which are amazing. I tried finding his website for ya guys...but I can find it anymore...
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Re: Music Software [Re: quillini]
#5691169 - 05/30/06 03:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
quillini said: I have Cubase SX 3 and an Audiophile 2496 soundcard, and the Cubase program won't interface with it. It says something about "lost connection to sound card" or whatever. I blame my shitty Elitegroup mobo, but if it doesn't work after I upgrade I don't know what in the fuck I'm going to do. I just want to make music dammit, I'm losing patience with all this computer bullshit. The learning curve is a killer, and that's just with Windows programs. Linux? Fucking forget it. Someday I will learn the ins and outs of all this stuff.
Right now I just want to and I don't have the patience for
Fuck windows. I am an IT pro for a real estate office, and windows sucks even for business now a days. It truly is a peice of crap compared to the modern day Mac. Get a Mac!
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Re: Music Software [Re: tallgreen]
#5691201 - 05/30/06 04:06 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have never once had a problem running anysoftware that was made for windows. I use Cubase SX 3 with a E-mu 1820 sound card and I havent had issues yet. Macs are nice though...but wayyyyy over priced. I'll probably look into buying one once prices arnt so damn expensive on them.
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Re: Music Software [Re: Osker246]
#5691250 - 05/30/06 04:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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They are more expensive, arguably over priced, but definitely not "waaayy" over priced. You can get a mac mini for $600 and that can do what you want without a problem.
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Re: Music Software [Re: tallgreen]
#5691270 - 05/30/06 04:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Fuck Apple. You can only do with a Mac what Apple says you can do with a Mac. It's like buying a car with the hood padlocked. It works like it should out of the box, but there's no room for modifying or tweaking. The only Apple product I own is an Ipod Mini, and it has been enough to convince me never to buy Apple again. The Mini is 1GB and it cost $140. That's bullshit. You can't upload songs or data from Ipod, and that's bullshit too. Besides, OSX is itself Unix-based, meaning that I could theoretically get all the functionality out of a Linux system that I could get out of a Mac, and without all the Apple bullshit. Theoretically.
I need to learn Linux backwards and forwards. I need to make it second nature. Right now I'm frustrated, but I'm not frustrated enough to sell a kidney for an iMac. If for no other reason, than because Apple likes to put an "i" in front of everything. That's very iGay and it iPisses me off. No Apple for me.
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Re: Music Software [Re: tallgreen]
#5691309 - 05/30/06 04:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mac mini might be good for average computer use like Web browsing and downloading. But the specs really dont look to well for audio production purposes. One reason why PC's are better is cause you can upgrade your hardware individualy. Unlike macs where you basicly got to buy a new computer if you want to upgrade anything.
Plus I can build a PC equivalent if not better than that Mac Mini for about $100-150 cheaper.
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Re: Music Software [Re: quillini]
#5691320 - 05/30/06 04:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I understand you viewpoint. I agree you are better off with Linux if you are committed to "learning it backwards and forwards". But apple is 100% configurable. You can do almost anything you can do with Linux if you know how, you could even recompile the kernel until recently. I have used Mac, Windows, and Linux professionally for over 10 years and I don't see what you mean by your analogy of a hood that is padlocked. If anything that is a far more accurate analogy for Windows. If you knew Linux you would see how awesome OSX is. There is just no strong legit reason for not liking OSX, aside from slightly higher pricing and the iGayness, point taken.
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Re: Music Software [Re: Osker246]
#5691339 - 05/30/06 04:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Osker246 said: Mac mini might be good for average computer use like Web browsing and downloading. But the specs really dont look to well for audio production purposes. One reason why PC's are better is cause you can upgrade your hardware individualy. Unlike macs where you basicly got to buy a new computer if you want to upgrade anything.
Plus I can build a PC equivalent if not better than that Mac Mini for about $100-150 cheaper.
I have used a G4 500mhz with Logic Pro for last 4 years. It's slow but it gets the job done. A Mac mini is just fine unless you are impatient. If that's the case, spend more money.
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