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Conscious Evolution
    #5689750 - 05/30/06 05:48 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

What I'm going to write about is hard to express in words, but facing the evolution of our world, I think that any serious individual should feel preoccupied by our future and what is going to happen to humanity.

Is Man going to continue behaving the way it has for the last thousands of years? Or is there going to be a fundamental change that will effect its psyche, its entire consciousness?

At the point that we are today, we have to recognize the events that have marked our past, and realize that a new way is asserting itself.

But I think there are only very few of us who really desire to discover if there possibly exists another way to live, a peaceful way where we wouldn't spend our time killing each other. This is the real problem we are confronted to today, and while most of us think that the crisis is on the outside, its really inside of us that it takes place, within our own consciousness. We are coming face to face with ourselves and our relation to the world, and I'd even say that we are confronted with the eternal question of the meaning of our life.

We've been fabulously advancing in the technological realm, we're able to realize incredible things. But on the other side, in the psychological realm, we haven't moved a bit for ages. Its been about ten thousand years that we've been waging war. Long ago, we killed with bows and arrows, Today war makes millions of deaths. Indeed, we've gained alot in efficiency. But have these thousands of years of experience of war tought man not to kill? No, human beings have not yet learned this simple thing: kill not, for God's sake! it comes back to killing yourself and your future.

What do I hear? You? You think you learned not to kill? Let's forget about you for a minute. The majority of people, those who vote for war, who elect their presidents, their prime ministers, those people haven't learned a thing...they're going to destroy humanity. If ten thousand years haven't been enough to teach Man to stop killing, then something's not right.

We are right now facing a crisis. This crisis is imminent, its getting closer and closer.

So, instead of behaving like politicians, instead of trying to solve and fix the crisis, why don't we search for the causes that the crisis originates from? What is the true root within Man that is the cause of this situation?

Well, nevermind that, do we even have the time to think about all this? Time hasn't helped us a bit, we still haven't understood, we're still going down the same road. Is time our ally or our enemy? Should we hope that we will evolve to be wiser with time?

No, evolution requires time. We don't have time. If we are going to depend on evolution, and therefore on time, then we are ruined. Change is imperative, and it has to be immediate, and not gradual. What we need is a mutation, which is different than an evolution.

Up until now, our evolution has been happening in an unconscious manner, which has led us to the situation we are in today. What we need is to make our evolution happen in a conscious manner. What needs to happen is a change on another level, within our own consciousness, and where we would put our intelligence to play.

The human brain has infinite technical capacities, but we don't apply these extraordinary capacities to our own inner sphere. If we could focus all of this energy  on the content of our consciousness, we would change instantly. What could make Man direct this energy within? War, suffering, better communication hasn't helped a bit. The idea of God, religions, politicians, gurus...in reality, nothing has ever been of any help. These people, far from being of any help, have taken us away from the right track.

The mean for change isn't any authority from the outside. It is therefore within that Man must turn. For this to happen, one needs lots of courage. It suggests that you'll need to face things on your own, without depending on anyone, without being attached to anything.

Unfortunately, there's nothing you can do to help others. The best you can possibly do is be like the sun and spread compassion, love, intelligence, without ever saying "do this, do that", or you'll just end up behaving like religions have. What its all about is acting like the sun: spread some light. We sit next to the sun if we want to, otherwise we stay in the shadow.


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Re: Conscious Evolution [Re: exclusive58]
    #5689789 - 05/30/06 06:14 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

sounds like somebody recently got back from the other side brimming with ideas and buckets of love.


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Re: Conscious Evolution [Re: exclusive58]
    #5689797 - 05/30/06 06:26 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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exclusive58 said:
Unfortunately, there's nothing you can do to help others. The best you can possibly do is be like the sun and spread compassion, love, intelligence, without ever saying "do this, do that", or you'll just end up behaving like religions have. What its all about is acting like the sun: spread some light. We sit next to the sun if we want to, otherwise we stay in the shadow.




Well said.

:congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats:


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Re: Conscious Evolution [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5689806 - 05/30/06 06:36 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Nice post, good encouragement to evolve our consciousness. For our problems are just beginning with the population of man ever increasing on our small planet. Its in every individuals will to chose what path he wants to follow. If you live by the sword, you die by the sword. whatever you make your enemy becomes your enemy. etc.

Also as a whole we need to wake up and stop pouring our resources in pointless endeavors, such as these wars. Start putting our resources into further development of sciences in all areas, disease, food, space travel, efficient fuel, global defense, concrete, etc. These wars are short sited, and have no point other than satisfying some leaders ideological pride.


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Re: Conscious Evolution [Re: exclusive58]
    #5689978 - 05/30/06 08:28 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

No, evolution requires time. We don't have time.

Interesting post from you as usual. I can't agree with the above as it is an unknown. In the 70s everyone was saying the same thing only more so and predictions of eminent decline flourished.

Still, your post is on the money in some ways. Fuck the teachers and gurus I say also.

Want to change things completely? The warriors way is the only way IMO. Each of us has to take complete responsibility for our world. If you want difference then change your self. Quit indulging, work on your self importance, quit blaming life for your condition. Warriors don't need anything to change outside of themselves. They are pushing their evolution on all fronts.


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Re: Conscious Evolution [Re: Icelander]
    #5690025 - 05/30/06 09:02 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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No, evolution requires time. We don't have time.

I can't agree with the above as it is an unknown. In the 70s everyone was saying the same thing only more so and predictions of eminent decline flourished.




Of course evolution requires time. It took millions of years for primitive life forms to evolve out of the oceans. It takes time for species to adapt to their environment. It takes time for a seed to grow and become a tree. Maybe what you're talking about is the base of physical evolution, which is genetic mutation, and that does happen instantly. But in order for that mutation to make its appearance on the macroscopic level, it has to make its way through growth and development of the individual, and that takes time.


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Re: Conscious Evolution [Re: exclusive58]
    #5690435 - 05/30/06 12:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

you say to rely on no one but yourself but then how do you even go inside and do this?
you would need drugs. or no drugs.
meditation. or no meditation.
yoga. or no yoga.

the journey is yours but you shouldn't abandon tools, should you?


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Re: Conscious Evolution [Re: exclusive58]
    #5690541 - 05/30/06 12:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm talking about the we don't have time part. We may have lots and lots of time.


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Re: Conscious Evolution [Re: exclusive58]
    #5690629 - 05/30/06 12:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, physical evolution is replaced by psychical one.


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Re: Conscious Evolution [Re: niteowl]
    #5691093 - 05/30/06 03:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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exclusive58 said:
Unfortunately, there's nothing you can do to help others. The best you can possibly do is be like the sun and spread compassion, love, intelligence, without ever saying "do this, do that", or you'll just end up behaving like religions have. What its all about is acting like the sun: spread some light. We sit next to the sun if we want to, otherwise we stay in the shadow.




mmm... that's not entirely true. if you can't find one person who changed for the better do to some one elses good actions. look harder. the task isnt an easy one, i'll say that for sure.


but our nasty habits of slandering and destroying eachother will come to an end after a great cataclysm (or so I like to believe)


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Re: Conscious Evolution [Re: exclusive58]
    #5691215 - 05/30/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Icelander said:
No, evolution requires time. We don't have time.

I can't agree with the above as it is an unknown. In the 70s everyone was saying the same thing only more so and predictions of eminent decline flourished.




Of course evolution requires time. It took millions of years for primitive life forms to evolve out of the oceans. It takes time for species to adapt to their environment. It takes time for a seed to grow and become a tree. Maybe what you're talking about is the base of physical evolution, which is genetic mutation, and that does happen instantly. But in order for that mutation to make its appearance on the macroscopic level, it has to make its way through growth and development of the individual, and that takes time.




Which comes first time or consciousness?
Ive always enjoyed the time and memory trip, transcending the contraints of time and physicality. To flow with pure awareness in the ocean of all, its indeed been "awhile" lol, ive gotta remember soon :mushroom2:

Time aint no thing. :laugh:


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Re: Conscious Evolution [Re: Icelander]
    #5693805 - 05/31/06 04:12 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm talking about the we don't have time part. We may have lots and lots of time.




Oh, that's what you were talking about!  :crazy:

To me, time is definitely not on our side. Especially when you consider that evolution takes more than a few years, which means that we can't rely on unconscious evolution to adapt to our deeply ill world. I guess afterwards its all about the way you view the present state of the world, if you think its not too bad, then sure, you're allowed to think that we still have lots of time. But there isn't much realization effort to see that we're in a sad situation...


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Re: Conscious Evolution [Re: Springs]
    #5693813 - 05/31/06 04:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Springs said:
Which comes first time or consciousness?
Ive always enjoyed the time and memory trip, transcending the contraints of time and physicality. To flow with pure awareness in the ocean of all, its indeed been "awhile" lol, ive gotta remember soon :mushroom2:





Next time you trip out on this, try and make the difference between objective and subjective time, or if you prefer, physical and psychological time. IMO, transcending the constraints of time, psychologically-wise, is what we're talking about, its realizing that the only moment that exists, for you, is NOW, and the memories that you keep in your mind, which is the base of thought, are only illusions, just like the ideas that you have of the future. But you also have to realize that, physically, time is a reality, we live in a universe-time, where an event leads to another, where it takes a certain amount of revolutions of electrons around their nucleus for a seed to grow into a plant, etc.

I'm done rambling. Good luck!  :wink:


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Re: Conscious Evolution [Re: exclusive58]
    #5693838 - 05/31/06 04:56 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I usually wouldnt make differences between anything when Im tripping.
To understand the nature and essence of time as a part of re"all"ity is what I mean when I flow with it unlimitedly, in the now.

I think time as a tool, of which wielding is greatly a learned skill,
the limits of time as far as I see are infinite.


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