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MustardMan
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Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip?
#5688713 - 05/29/06 10:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm just wondering, because all my trips have been like 15-20% terrible and hell-like, and 80-85% Bliss.
I hate the bad trip parts, and I don't like having to endure them just to get the bliss trips--But when they come on, there is no stopping them, they just grab ahold of my body. Is there anyway to have a 99% Great trip, or will there always be terrible moments in there too?
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Re: Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip? [Re: MustardMan]
#5688750 - 05/29/06 10:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I try not to differentiate between Good or Bad, and rather view the parts as a whole: The Experience. I often find that I learn more from what are considered to be "bad trips" anyway.
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Re: Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip? [Re: MustardMan]
#5688752 - 05/29/06 10:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sure have. The majority of mine have been 90% good. Its all in your head, and of course the setting. I haven't had too many bad experiences.
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Re: Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip? [Re: MustardMan]
#5688755 - 05/29/06 10:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Generally most of my trips have had a couple rough patches... Although on my last trip asside from a come up with a very 'drugged' feel to it (double vision/mixing of vision, feeling good but never comfortable enough, etc) but after that it was 4 hours or so of an easy trip. Wasn't really intense, it was more just a euphoric glow of warmth that kind of wrapped around you along with a lot of creativity, slowed down more fluid thoughts. I think discomfort and a bit of roughness are just part of the experience
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Re: Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip? [Re: MustardMan]
#5688780 - 05/29/06 10:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have had 100% good trips.
They were mostly when I was young and stupid. Most trips have been somewhat difficult, but what made them difficult made them the best. None of my 100%good trips were as good as the more difficult ones. 100% good trips usually took place with one good friend in the middle of a forest somewhere. We were one person on those days and nights(logic machines with an inspired capacity to speak). It made us both stronger during the more high dose experiences. I dont know if I could have felt so happy and blissful on 1500 mics if my long time trip buddy had not eaten the same amount with me. When I learned the most was when the hellish trips started happening. There are no words to describe it because its not like I was learning anything new at first. I learned so much more there after. Like every trip just go weirder and weirder even if I was in total control. The knowledge added up over time and one day that building toppled over its own weight. I dont know.......After 170 trips I dont know If I will find a reason to trip again. I saw too much in so little time after the more anxiety stricken 20% (so caled bad)-trips started happening.
Those all happened because I choose to go at it alone at some point. A very good decision on my part.
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Re: Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip? [Re: stemmer]
#5688810 - 05/29/06 10:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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There are no free rides, but I think it helps to plan out your trip, I think being in excellent health is beneficial, My best trip was when I was cardio junk, also better shrooms always helps, such as the cyanescens varieties
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Re: Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip? [Re: capliberty]
#5688837 - 05/29/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Free-rides are nice when they happen, but you might not lose the ego entirely because you have not fucked with its persona thoroughly.
Ego loss has its own definition for many people it would seem. For most people who experience it, the process that preceeds this sort of extacy is what is most difficult. Most people have a harder come up than the come down. The come down for me Is time to smoke pot and contemplate all things seen thus far during this most recent trip and all those that preceeded it.
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Re: Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip? [Re: stemmer]
#5688864 - 05/29/06 10:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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stemmer said: Free-rides are nice when they happen, but you might not lose the ego entirely because you have not fucked with its persona thoroughly.
Ego loss has its own definition for many people it would seem. For most people who experience it, the process that preceeds this sort of extacy is what is most difficult. Most people have a harder come up than the come down. The come down for me Is time to smoke pot and contemplate all things seen thus far during this most recent trip and all those that preceeded it.
not everyone trips balls on shrooms to reach ego loss/death.
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Re: Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip? [Re: Syle]
#5688924 - 05/29/06 11:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I reached ego loss, or can I say ego toss, the admission of this ride is definitely not free. As far as scary rides, I'd say it definitely caught me by surprise, When I went through ego toss, I went into a comatose. Pissed my pants and pissed off all my friends. Because I was being very defiant with them for some reason. I didn't even know why I was arguing with them; or what I was even arguing, because I was so gone none of it made sense. Its funny how in one state I'm engaged in an argument, but really I'm not even there LOL.
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Re: Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip? [Re: Syle]
#5688979 - 05/29/06 11:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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stemmer said: Free-rides are nice when they happen, but you might not lose the ego entirely because you have not fucked with its persona thoroughly.
Ego loss has its own definition for many people it would seem. For most people who experience it, the process that preceeds this sort of extacy is what is most difficult. Most people have a harder come up than the come down. The come down for me Is time to smoke pot and contemplate all things seen thus far during this most recent trip and all those that preceeded it.
not everyone trips balls on shrooms to reach ego loss/death.
Cant say I know what you mean by that. No self is a pretty good vantage point to view the unfathomable from.
Thats what I was saying so thanks for making my point. With my good friend we held it all together in some form able to be articulated. When with another person, It can be hard to loose everything that makes you an individual. To loose that can be a bitch and a half.
Ofcoarse, "not everyone trips balls on shrooms to reach ego loss/death". Blame that on what ever you want. I was not trying to contradict that in any way. So ya, not too sure what the hell you guys are saying.
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Re: Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip? [Re: stemmer]
#5689123 - 05/30/06 12:00 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I personally have only had good trips. I guess its because I believe that a bad trip is all in my head (and i dont care to know if its true or not) and that mentality has kept me from having one to date.
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Re: Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip? [Re: MustardMan]
#5695045 - 05/31/06 02:06 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I always tell people that mushroom trips are never easy, but always fun. Mushrooms aren't like other drugs I've done, they require a little bit of work/cooperation on the user's part. I get kind of annoyed at people who have only smoked weed, and are like, "I wanna try mushrooms!" I try to explain to 'em that one can't try 'shrooms, you either do 'em, or you don't. They aren't something you dive into half-assed or you'll end up being the guy with the scared look on his face the whole trip, who wants to be alone or wants it to stop. There's always one guy like that when I do them in groups of more than three.
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capliberty said: I went into a comatose. Pissed my pants ... but really I'm not even there LOL.
My last big trip was like this except I didn't piss my pants. I was aware just enough to get up and go. (It was so fun/funny. I was alone, and every time I got up to go to the bathroom, I'd avoid looking at the mirror and my dick. My vision was so distorted that those were two things I just didn't want to look at in that state. But I did look at my hands and it was so tight 'cause one hand (my right) was so small, even tiny and the other hand was ridiculously huge, like an inflated balloon, it was even tied off in a knot at my wrist, like a balloon would be. So tight!) It was on my largest dose yet (3.5 grams) and I had been working up to five or seven grams, but it's got me wondering if I do that much, if I should wear a diaper. After wizzing, I'd go back to my bed and slip back into a psychedelic rainbow world, completely unaware of the world outside (practically comatose) except when I'd have to go pee again.
But, yeah, almost all my trips have required a little bit of work on my part.
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Re: Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip? [Re: goliath_91710]
#5695542 - 05/31/06 04:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've had a few '100% good trips', but they tend to be the ones I value the least.
My most difficult trips, have also been my most worthwhile, memoriable, and benifical for me. I dont mind going through some hell to catch a glimpse of heaven, and then you appreicate it 10x more.
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Re: Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip? [Re: Ngalyod]
#5695567 - 05/31/06 04:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ngalyod said: I try not to differentiate between Good or Bad, and rather view the parts as a whole: The Experience. I often find that I learn more from what are considered to be "bad trips" anyway.
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Re: Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip? [Re: MustardMan]
#5695979 - 05/31/06 06:16 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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My first trip was 100% good, excluding the comedown (which isn't exactly part of the 'trip') which was kind of bothersome. For me it depends completely on mindset, since then I'm pretty much the same as you, there are at least SOME bad parts during the trip, but I feel I don't have the 'perfect' mindset I did at the time of my first trip.
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Re: Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip? [Re: Tyrone_C]
#5696120 - 05/31/06 06:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Now, now, Stemmer.
As for a perfect trip, yes, I have had one. Not even my sister trying to scare me by clapping in my face and yelling loudly, or the brush with an authority figure could ruin how good I felt that night.
It was an important experience, but not really as "spiritual" (and I use that term loosely) as I had wanted. Next time, I suppose.
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Re: Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip? [Re: ]
#5698378 - 06/01/06 03:59 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Kaniz said--->"I've had a few '100% good trips', but they tend to be the ones I value the least".
That was exactly what I was saying..... ThreePieceSuit, the "now now stemmer" part of what you were saying just proves that you cant read, or dont feel like you should have to read what someone says before trying to belittle them. How lame that is ThreePieceSuit.............
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Re: Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip? [Re: stemmer]
#5698395 - 06/01/06 04:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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NOW NOW
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Re: Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip? [Re: capliberty]
#5698415 - 06/01/06 04:18 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nah, its still pretty lame as is your comment asscap.
PLEASE READ FIRST(my comments) if you feel the need to stunt the growth of the conversation at hand in order to belittle someone, even someone who knows what they are talking about.
I would love to take the focus off of this thread to tell you how out of line you are. Just trying to give my point of view on 100%good trips VS "worse" trips. So sorry............
Going ahead and being logical shouldnt be offensive to anybody. Even when I am making fun of their simple ways. SHit talking on the internet is not my thing unless I am making some sense when I do so.
So now, now you two might want to stick to the subject.
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Re: Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip? [Re: stemmer]
#5698468 - 06/01/06 04:43 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I would love to take the focus off of this thread to tell you how out of line you are.
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Re: Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip? [Re: stemmer]
#5707497 - 06/03/06 01:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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stemmer said: SHit talking on the internet is not my thing unless I am making some sense when I do so.
You instigate just about every post! I'm not out of line in asking you to refrain from jamming your opinion down everyone's throat. On this whole forum, I'd say you've flamed about 80% of anyone who ever began to disagree with you. What's your problem? Mellow, man. I'm not trying to incense you, but honestly, let's grow up a little.
Jeeze...little hipster indeed... 
Edit: I'd like to point out to everyone that stemmer edits just about every post. That's right, he was being a dick beforehand, but as soon as someone points it out, bam, he goes and changes it. Now honestly, I know I'm being a little high and mighty here, but I see no need for him to argue with people over their own opinion.
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Re: Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip? [Re: stemmer]
#5707980 - 06/03/06 04:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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stemmer said: I have had 100% good trips.
They were mostly when I was young and stupid. Most trips have been somewhat difficult, but what made them difficult made them the best. None of my 100%good trips were as good as the more difficult ones. 100% good trips usually took place with one good friend in the middle of a forest somewhere. We were one person on those days and nights(logic machines with an inspired capacity to speak). It made us both stronger during the more high dose experiences. I dont know if I could have felt so happy and blissful on 1500 mics if my long time trip buddy had not eaten the same amount with me. When I learned the most was when the hellish trips started happening. There are no words to describe it because its not like I was learning anything new at first. I learned so much more there after. Like every trip just go weirder and weirder even if I was in total control. The knowledge added up over time and one day that building toppled over its own weight. I dont know.......After 170 trips I dont know If I will find a reason to trip again. I saw too much in so little time after the more anxiety stricken 20% (so caled bad)-trips started happening.
Those all happened because I choose to go at it alone at some point. A very good decision on my part.
I never change my comments dumbass. I change spelling often though(maybe add a thing or two). I dont know where you get that idea, so thanks for being so dishonest just because I gave you bad rating. Im really sorry about that. 
Nice edit threepiecesuit. Am I to assume you were holding back your twisted slander by erasing some of it?
I didnt start shit with anyone. Infact I started with my innocent take on "good trips" and mentioned that some of my most frightening and even anxiety stricken trips have turned out to be the most interesting.
My attitude was directed toward those who act like they have some good reason to contradict me. I just explain how it works for me, not everybody.
Here is another edit just for you 3piecesuit: When people are deliberately condescending what do you expect. "Now Now Stemmer" was a bit too much for me when I was simply trying to agree with Kaniz.(kind of like saying: ya, thats how I feel about it too, and what do you know, that makes two of us).
Enough is enough man, just give it up. It would help if you reread what I was saying too.
Edited by stemmer (06/03/06 05:12 PM)
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Re: Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip? [Re: stemmer]
#5708087 - 06/03/06 05:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I am one of the few who reads every post before posting. I would not have chided you without reason.
I'm not worried in the least about my rating. I'll let this die, but honestly, are you fooling yourself?
Check how many negative ratings you have. Why? Because you argue everything.
Why does every forum have to have one of these people? I have honestly never started anything. I'm not into arguing, especially on forums.
At any rate, Mods, if you feel the need, hand me a three day ban, or whatever. I'm not changing my opinion.
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Re: Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip? [Re: ThreePieceSuit]
#5708356 - 06/03/06 06:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Your right about a year ago I was convinced that most of the people here deserved a good chiding. I had alot of fun being sort of a prick and running circles around certain people. Today Im here to do nothing but add information and to give myself some entertainment. So youll have to excuse me for messing with your opinion of me. Ill say again, if you can read within context(not including my ratings), realize I was being an asshole because of the condescending remark, not necessarily your ideas. Really we are arguing about NOTHING(apparently). Im sorry if it makes you and other people pissed when I make a comment that says "no need to take what I said out of context, look back at what I said again"(often Im pointing out other people's need to feel like they want to 1-up me/anyone)...That happens alot. Realize what you started, that your fucking with the wrong guy, the same wrong guy who can be an asshole and who was only talking about his way of looking at "good trips" in the first place. If you really want to remember why your pissed at me, its because someone wanted to enlighten me about ego loss and how not everyone is looking for that kind of thing. I responded by saying that this is how it works for me and some people have a totally differnt idea of what ego loss is...... To the most simple extent, a reflection of ego loss can be seen in a person who has consumed alot of alcohol. For the sake of getting even half way back to the topic.....For me, ego loss doesnt just happen, its a process with varying levels that lead toward the peak of ego loss. This process works differently for other people besides myself, very often. So If people want to argue and one-up just about anybody, most often they should realize that this is an internet conversation, (no need to jump the gun with condescending remarks). You will just get the same back in return. If someone thinks that I really dont understand that ego-loss doesnt need to fit into everyone's psychedelic vocabulary, then they are dead wrong. I understand, and even made the analogy about me and a good friend before the condescending remark(why it annoyed me so much). SO excuse me If I accuse people of not being able to read between the lines. I dont argue everything. Id say in the last year, im here primarily to understand those who take psychedelics. Those who are not like myself. This is a hell of a good place for studying that.. I almost never agrue with people, only when they are out of line, most often because of my reputation. It ranges from very good to very bad. I know alot about this stuff and have given much good advise, but when Im bored enough I might just putz around a bit, (a sort of a reflection of my old approach). If I wanted to be the good guy all the time I would have changed my name..
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Re: Has anyone ever had a 99% Good Trip? [Re: ThreePieceSuit]
#5708366 - 06/03/06 06:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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strangely, i have never had a bad trip on any substance! i think things have to be percieved bad whilst tripping though, to make you feel like you're having a bad trip. i also always make sure the set/setting is perfect before-hand and i also will not use any psychedelic (other then weed) on any given day unless i wake up clearly feeling like it is the right time. that's why i tend to keep a few trips worth of something lying around. i've never ate mushrooms immediately upon obtaining them, i always sit on them (not literally) for a while until i wake up feeling like it's a special day. peace
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That makes some good sense SunshineDaydream .
I have had trips where I felt I was going to die in a way. The separation of my psyche and body/my psyche compared to knowledge I was soaking in so fast during the trip, not knowing if either part would ever be even remotely the same again. Those trips were the best trips, and they were always when I was alone. They were the best trips of my life. Being frightened is a precursor(FOR ME) to becoming selfless, free of habit and all that comes after that(before you are sent back home in the opposite direction in which you came). For me the fright turns to none other than logic in a perpetual war with the psyche to free the self from that which is not even remotely human. Thats where I have learned the most. The less you fight it the more you will know about that strange world, and you will not have to work as much with the bridge between that world and ours if you dont fight it. Thats why my most interesting trips have been at very high doses and were very scary at times.
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