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9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap
    #5685750 - 05/29/06 07:46 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Hello everyone, let me just start by asking you this: If 9/11 really is an inside job, doesn't it strike you as odd that the government releases a video of the Pentagon crash which shows an aircraft that looks nothing like a 757? Because if it was something other than a boeing that hit the Pentagon, surely the images seized by the FBI that prove this to be true would never have reached the public, right? Nobody involved would take this big of a risk, on the contrary, they'd do everything they can to hide it from public viewing...

Now, before I get into the heart of the matter, let me just tell you a few facts that raised my suspicions concerning the official story of the Pentagon crash:
*There was no military response to protect the capital and military headquarters,
*The part of the Pentagon hit was mostly inoccupied,
*No high-level military officials were killed,
*The aircraft had an amazing aerobatic approach to the Pentagon, piloted by a hijacker with practically no piloting skills
*The images of the crash recorded by surveillance cameras were immediately seized by the FBI

What happened at the Pentagon has been dividing skeptics among themselves; some are absolutely positive that what hit the Pentagon was a 757, and others aren't. The idea that something like a jet or a missile hit the Pentagon has been fueled by the frames of the surveillance camera released and has been mainly popularized based on arguments that say that pictures of impact holes do not coincide with a 757, or that the photos show only very little aircraft debris.

In the video released by the FBI, there is only one frame where you can actually see something, and it doesn't really look like a 757. However, when you look closer, you can see some signs that suggest that the video may have been forged and edited. For example, there aren't any shadows from the explosion, and the brightness has been uniformly elevated. (see more about this here )

What is important to remember here and should definitely not be disegarded, is the abundance of eye-witnesses that claim to have seen a boeing. This is something that many skeptics seem to ignore. And after analyzing the skeptics' arguments that support the "no-757 theory", it seems that most, if not all of them, are either examination errors or can be explained by a 757 crash. It most probably WAS a 757 that crashed at the Pentagon, although the frames released can suggest otherwise.

From this point, it is reasonable to think that the release of the Pentagon frames is a planned part of the cover-up, and if you see how these have fueled the Pentagon controversy, you can guess what the ends of the perpetrators are. Indeed, they have correctly predicted that the skeptics community would divide into two groups; those persuaded by eyewitness evidence that a 757 had crashed, and those persuaded by physical evidence that one had not.

Furthermore, this manipulation also serves to discredit the entire skeptic community. Most people that have heard of the 9/11 conspiracy theory have come across the "no-757 theory". And the mainstream press make it seem that this theory is representative of the entire skeptic community, you may have noticed that if you ever hear of the truth movement in the media, most of the time will be spent discussing the weakest claims such as the pod claims or the no-757 claims, and the most compelling cases against the official story will be left unmentionned. This makes it easy for people to quickly disregard the conspiracy theory as being completely ludicrous and causes one to alienate oneself from the entire truth movement.

If this is true, 9/11 was indeed orchestrated by machiavelic psychological maneuvering geniuses. Their intelligently planned out operation is overwhelming. While at the first, the 9/11 skeptics have proposed that the Pentagon attack was engineered to make it appear that a 757 crashed when none had, it is now suggested that the crash of a 757 was engineered to make it appear that no such plane had crashed.


More: http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagontrap.html


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: exclusive58]
    #5685780 - 05/29/06 08:15 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

My thoughts when I saw the new video- you can make out the top of a plane almost as a missile, this was a way to feed the skeptics of the one and only silly 9/11 conspiracies, which brings down the seriousness of the other very obvious and fact driven things about 9/11 that points to government involvment.

Then to all the people that think the government wasn't involved in the least, they have the second video which will reassure them that it was a plane, because it looked a lot more like a plane, and then they will understand why there are 9/11 "no-757" skeptics and feel they are silly and haven't looked into the facts enough, they've only looked as far things like the first video and jumped the gun.

Now if a 757 did hit the pentagon or not I don't know, but I do know that because of other things that happened on 9/11, this is the worst theory to point out because it can be smeared and discredit the much more obvious and factual things that happened on 9/11 that point towards government involvment.


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: beatnicknick]
    #5685947 - 05/29/06 09:46 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Once again, it is essential to take into consideration the abundance of eyewitnesses. There are more than a hundred of them that declare having seen a boeing.

And what I'm saying is that I don't think its an accident if the surveillance videos show something that doesn't look like a boeing...


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: exclusive58]
    #5685952 - 05/29/06 09:50 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I still say it's hard to capture something moving at speeds in excessive of 350mph at that Field of View as well as that framerate.


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: Maverick]
    #5685963 - 05/29/06 09:56 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You'd think the pentagon would have better framerates on their cameras....


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: exclusive58]
    #5686175 - 05/29/06 11:45 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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While at the first, the 9/11 skeptics have proposed that the Pentagon attack was engineered to make it appear that a 757 crashed when none had, it is now suggested that the crash of a 757 was engineered to make it appear that no such plane had crashed.



The crash was engineered as such? And you base this conclusion on the fact that the video is practically impossible to interpret? Don't you see how this is a spectre of selective perception? If what you suggest is true, the perpetrators assumed one thing correctly: the conspiracy theorists aren't good critical thinkers. They would have had to assume that you would simply ignore all of the overwhelming physical and eyewitness evidence that verifies it was AA flight 77, in favor of one lousy series of frames, thus fooling you into thinking that no 757 struck the pentagon when one actually had, effectively destroying your credibility. You must be dizzy from running yourself in so many circles.



And what's with calling the pentagon conspiracy theory a "booby trap" for conspiracy theorists? If a hunter accidentally steps in a bear trap he set, would you call that a booby trap?


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: beatnicknick]
    #5686187 - 05/29/06 11:53 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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My thoughts when I saw the new video- you can make out the top of a plane almost as a missile, this was a way to feed the skeptics of the one and only silly 9/11 conspiracies, which brings down the seriousness of the other very obvious and fact driven things about 9/11 that points to government involvment.




One and only or conspiracies plural? I'll assume the s was a typo. I'll also assume that you are either genuinely confused or you have some real evidence to affirm that any of the other theories aren't equally silly.


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: Viveka]
    #5686245 - 05/29/06 12:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Religious fanaticism is impervious to reason.
This whole brand of nonsense has been slaughtered in thread after thread and yet the same acolytes keep coming back with more and more bullshit. They don't even resurrect the old threads they just start new ones after the previous ass kicking leaves the immediate forum consciousness. It's always the same suspects, too. "Round 'em up, boys, we haven't posted any lunatic fringe dogma in PA&L in about a week. Maybe nobody will notice this time."
Some people should "get a room." Their mutual masturbation society is bothering the pets.


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5687035 - 05/29/06 03:44 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

That posted is extremely loaded.  Not only is it completely irrelevant to the topic material of this thread, but it is completely uninformative.  All the post does is attempt to demonize a certain group of like minded individuals by using excessive amounts of negatively connotative words, and hardly qualifies for non-bias objectivity.

Are you sure you are not a government shill hired to perform Internet psy-ops? :wink:


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: Darcho]
    #5687109 - 05/29/06 03:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

That's just how Zappa communicates...you learn to tune it out after a while.


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: Darcho]
    #5687112 - 05/29/06 03:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I'm a PA&L shill who is tired of seeing this bullshit rethreaded over and over again. The lunatic fringe get their asses handed to them repeatedly and, like true intellectual cowards, run from the threads and restart and regurgitate their nonsense. There's 10 similar threads in the "Related threads" just below. 8 of them are about this same nonsense. Related doesn't come close to accurately describing them. Identical is more like it.

Like I said. "Get a room."


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: Rono]
    #5687116 - 05/29/06 04:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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That's just how Zappa communicates...you learn to tune it out after a while.




You're still around? How nice to have your brilliant insight back.


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5687137 - 05/29/06 04:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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Rono said:
That's just how Zappa communicates...you learn to tune it out after a while.




You're still around?  How nice to have your brilliant insight back.




I knew you missed me. :smirk:


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: Rono]
    #5687218 - 05/29/06 04:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You were just witholding??????  Cruel bastard. :confused:


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: exclusive58]
    #5687265 - 05/29/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

In my opinion its kinda of pointless to argue the details about what happened at the pentagon. There simply isn't enough details released to say it wasn't a plane. People are just looking for some smoking gun evidence. When it comes down to it, does it matter if it was a plane or a missle or got knows what else people theorize it is. The only thing that matters is WHO funded the operation, and who ordered it. Was it really afgan cavemen? Do these people have the ability to do such a thing around the most heavily guarded air space in the world.


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: J4S0N]
    #5687272 - 05/29/06 04:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

OMFG.


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    #5687362 - 05/29/06 05:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: J4S0N]
    #5687944 - 05/29/06 07:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

> The only thing that matters is WHO funded the operation

Yes, but the people that want to believe in the missle also want to believe that Bush was behind it all.  Though I love tinfoil logic:

1) Bush & Co fill the WTC with explosives
2) Bush & Co take two planes and paint them up
3) Bush & Co fill the planes with dead bodies
4) Bush & Co fake hijackings and crash planes into the WTC
5) Bush & Co crash a plane into a field for kicks and grins
6) Bush & Co, running out of planes, slam a missle into the pentagon
7) Bush & Co, being smart, scatter plane parts around to hide the missle

:rolleyes:


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: faslimy]
    #5687953 - 05/29/06 07:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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faslimy said:
I HAVE SEEN SATALLITE PHOTOS OF POWER POLES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD KNOCKED OVER IN A CLEAR PATH TOWARDS THE PENTAGON


OMFG STFU




Did you even read our first couple posts? We were not saying the Pentagon conspiracy is at all strong evidence, its not believed by the majority of the people in the 9/11 Truth Movement, but its a good conspiracy to exploit to make us look like idiots. Than they'd ignore any of the serious questions.

If you were behind 9/11 and you were trying to stop this questioning how would you go about that? Possibly go to its source, the only non-corporate news, the internet?


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: beatnicknick]
    #5689609 - 05/30/06 02:57 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

no i didn't read this thread for the same reason a lot of others probably didn't

you have a good point which i would agree on


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: Viveka]
    #5689735 - 05/30/06 05:24 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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They would have had to assume that you would simply ignore all of the overwhelming physical and eyewitness evidence that verifies it was AA flight 77, in favor of one lousy series of frames




The no-757 theory wasn't simply based on the frames, there were also lots of points based on physical evidence that made a case against a plane having crashed there. Please consider all the facts before judging. There's indeed enough contradictions in the official story to make anyone dizzy, that is, if one is even willing to investigate for oneself.

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And what's with calling the pentagon conspiracy theory a "booby trap" for conspiracy theorists? If a hunter accidentally steps in a bear trap he set, would you call that a booby trap?




Read the first post, the difference is that the hunter didn't set the trap himself.


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: exclusive58]
    #5689827 - 05/30/06 06:55 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

> There's indeed enough contradictions in the official story to make anyone dizzy,

And yet there are people that actually saw a plane fly into the building. The brother of my best friend was in one of the rooms that got hit. He lived, but other people in his office did not. He said it was a plane that he saw, not a missile.


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: Seuss]
    #5689845 - 05/30/06 07:16 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not disagreeing with you. I suggest you read the first post...


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: exclusive58]
    #5690754 - 05/30/06 01:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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The no-757 theory wasn't simply based on the frames, there were also lots of points based on physical evidence that made a case against a plane having crashed there.




No, there were lots of points based on the incorrect interpretation of the physical evidence, or the complete lack of even attemping to correctly interpret it at all.

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Please consider all the facts before judging.




Oh, believe me, I did. I even thought that the pentagon official story was probably a lie at some point. I watched all the videos, looked at all the analysis from both sides, then came to an almost certain conclusion (since no one can say for sure, right) that if the U.S. government perpetrated any villainy in 9/11, it was not in the carryinh out of the attacks, it was in helping to create the conditions that lead to them. The government didn't shoot a missile at the Pentagon, AA flight 77 was flown into it, but that doesn't mean the government is innocent. No one is innocent.

My most recent 9/11 research effort consisted of reading through 60+ transcriptions of interviews with firefighters and chiefs who were at the WTC site. I've compiled a list of eyewitness 'evidence', anchored in quotes, categorized as positive or negative in support of conspiracy theory. The ratio of pos to neg is about 1/50. Keep in mind this is eyewitness accounts, one of the least reliable forms of evidence. I compiled these quotes without attachment to one conclusion or the other, grounded in the realization that there's no way I can know for sure right now. I'm waiting for the appropriate occasion to bust em out. I certainly won't feel compelled to counter weak speculation or regurtitation from 911truth.org with serious hours of unbiased research I have put in. I challenge any conspiracy theorist to read through at least 12 hours worth of firefighter testimony (not even 1/2 of the time I put in) before they post anything else on the Shroomery about the subject.

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Read the first post, the difference is that the hunter didn't set the trap himself.



Yes he did. The Pentagon releasing a poor quality video does not equate to the Pentagon setting an elaborate trap for anybody. That trap is only set in the mind of the person who doesn't think critically about every piece of information avaliable.


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: exclusive58]
    #5690912 - 05/30/06 02:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Hey exclusive58, I've been thinking along the same lines. The logical conclusion as to the next step, which you didn't include in this thread (or else I read over it), would be that the Pentagon waits for a while and then publishes crystal-clear footage of the plane entering the building. Let's just wait and see then...


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: Aldous]
    #5691184 - 05/30/06 04:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: Viveka]
    #5693827 - 05/31/06 04:44 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I challenge any conspiracy theorist to read through at least 12 hours worth of firefighter testimony (not even 1/2 of the time I put in) before they post anything else on the Shroomery about the subject.




links?

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The Pentagon releasing a poor quality video does not equate to the Pentagon setting an elaborate trap for anybody.




Unless you accept the possibility that the videos were maybe forged into making it seem that the aircraft was more a jet than it was a boeing. Did you check the links I gave concerning this video editing? I'm careful to always keep an unbiased approach as well, and I'm in no position to say that the videos were forged, but still, check it out.

:thumbup: for your unbiased investigative work. And I think you're right that no one will ever be able to say for sure what really happened. But if something did happen, I think its important that the info gets out.


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: Aldous]
    #5693833 - 05/31/06 04:52 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Hey exclusive58, I've been thinking along the same lines. The logical conclusion as to the next step, which you didn't include in this thread (or else I read over it), would be that the Pentagon waits for a while and then publishes crystal-clear footage of the plane entering the building. Let's just wait and see then...




Ya, that's what I thought as well. If the truth movement keeps getting bigger, its important that the "no-757 theory" doesn't grow along with it, because in that case the Pentagon will release the other videos and will be able to finish off the movement by discrediting it, and making the skeptics look like lunatics. That, in a few words, is what the booby trap is.


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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: exclusive58]
    #5694474 - 05/31/06 11:05 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Unless I'm misunderstanding the thrust of your argument here, you are now saying that it WAS Flight 77 which hit the Pentagon?



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Re: 9/11 Skeptics Beware: the Pentagon Boobytrap [Re: exclusive58]
    #5694996 - 05/31/06 01:47 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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links?



You can start here: http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/met_WTC_histories_01.html

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Unless you accept the possibility that the videos were maybe forged into making it seem that the aircraft was more a jet than it was a boeing.




If the vides were going to be forged according to your theory, don't you think they would have been forged to actually be deceiving? The simple fact is that they are virtually uninterpretable, although they can be shown to possibly have consistency with the form of a 757, as you see there in the gif.


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