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Offlineskyzzum
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need bad trip advice...shrooms not for me?
    #5685500 - 05/29/06 02:04 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Before i get into it i just want to say if you experiment with amphetamines(adderall) and mushrooms as a combo, expect a different trip with intense visuals, mind blowing out of body experiences and feelings of ecstacy. But be careful! Don't take more than 20mg with a small amount(1-2.5g) of shrooms until you are confident you can handle it. Take it from me.

Last fall i had two trips (which i plan on writing about) that were a complete disaster on so many levels. First one was a result of going wayyyyy overboard(4g mush and and 40mg amphetamines) combined with some bad luck. I experienced severe ego dissolution, complete detachment from reality, and an eternity of psychotic terror and despair so severe that i thought death would be the only way out. A strong depression followed for a few days and i am still bothered by it to this day.

Somehow i convinced myself that i could trip again without anything bad happening, mostly because i've had several trips beforehand that were nothing short of perfect. Even though i was cautious (took 2g then one more an hour later) i still managed to lose my mind....i was exposed to myself stripped down to a soul and it was horrifying beyond description. I was convinced i was dead or insane forever. To make it worse it happened in public and i ended up in the ER followed by a holding cell. But somehow, after all this, much good came out of the experience and it made me a better person.

Question is...should i ever touch this shit again?? I have a fistful of reasons not to(literally- I punched out a glass door and I have several scars from it) I hope someone can give me advice on what to do- because i still see the potential for mushrooms having a positive impact on my life...that and cuz I'm dying to trip balls!


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Re: need bad trip advice...shrooms not for me? [Re: skyzzum]
    #5686053 - 05/29/06 10:49 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Why don't you try a low dose, since it is obvious you are not prepared for the doses you have been taking. Try eating 1 - 1.5grams. Make sure you are comfortable in your enviroment, make sure you trust the people you are with. Remember that anything that happens is all coming from your brain, nothing else. Do not react to hallucinations, accept them for what they are and let them be. Let them melt over you, merge with them. You must accept that what you are experiencing is a trip, an inner journey through the depths of your own mind, nothing else. Relax, go with the flow. Again, start with a lower dose.

I also suggest you read The Psychedelic Experience by Timothy Leary. This is a great book to read in preparation for a trip.

Also, I wouldn't suggest any amphetamines while tripping.


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Re: need bad trip advice...shrooms not for me? [Re: FunkyLoFi]
    #5686328 - 05/29/06 12:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The above is solid advice. I was gonna say about 75% of it.


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Re: need bad trip advice...shrooms not for me? [Re: lsdandfrisbee]
    #5686747 - 05/29/06 02:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, the low doeses would help and all that advice. My 2 cents are that you should be in a good state of mind for the trip, so make sure you're not having second thoughs while you're doing them... Have fun and don't mess up things those "pay attension drugs" (my little cousin takes aderall for school)!


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I believe with the advent of acid we discovered new way to think and it had to
do with piecing together new thoughts of mind. Why is it that people think it's
so evil? What is it about it that there is scares people so deeply? Because
they are afraid that there is more to reality than they have ever confronted.
That there are doors that they're afraid to go in and they don't want us to go
in there either because if we go in, there we might learn something that they
don't know. And that makes us a little out of their control.


Edited by colimon (05/29/06 02:31 PM)


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Re: need bad trip advice...shrooms not for me? [Re: colimon]
    #5687056 - 05/29/06 03:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

2 essential things to make sure right before you do shrooms

1) are you feeling great today ??? (no ok is not a good enough answer)
2) setting ? are you confortable with it if something bugs you about it do something about it

of course those are subjective but those for me been the key difference between ok trips and OMG ones!

of course second one is rather subjective as some people (me) don't have a setting but rather explore the world on shrooms like walking around and stuff like this.


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Re: need bad trip advice...shrooms not for me? [Re: skyzzum]
    #5690319 - 05/30/06 11:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

You will continue to have bad experiences until you can come to terms with the notion that you are making the trips bad, not the drug. It can be a challenge to get past trip anxiety, but you have to remember that nothing bad will happen to you. The feelings you are experiencing are purely sensations brought on by behavioral conditioning from your last trip.

I would recommend, as others have stated, taking a small dose of 1-1.5 grams and work through the anxiety. When you start experiencing anxiety during the trip try the following mental and verbal exercises to calm your mind and body:

1. Breather deeply in through your nose and say "Peace", exhale deeply through your mouth and say "Relax". This breathing exercise will increase oxygen to your brain and aid in slowing your heart rate.

2. Verbally tell yourself out loud the following: "The sensations I'm experiencing are just that, sensations. I cannot die from these sensations. I'm a little scared right now, but I'm going to have a great time."

3. Avoid situations that allow for dwelling on bad thoughts. Diversion is the key to squashing anxiety during a trip. As soon as you start to feel anxious, stop your thought patterns and immediately divert to something else. Sing out loud, comment on what you're doing, talk it out. Dwelling on the anxious sensations will likely heighten them and could cause a panic attack.

4. Change the setting if you have to. I tend to advise against this unless it's absolutely necessary. Leaving a room because you are feeling anxious tends to create phobias in that particular area. If someone is messing with my vibe, I'll leave to get away from that person, but I never leave a room just because the room itself is getting to me.

That's about all I can suggest for now. Good luck to you.


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Re: need bad trip advice...shrooms not for me? [Re: Wronguy]
    #5690691 - 05/30/06 01:16 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

If the above suggestions fail, I find it helps to slow yourself down, analyze your situation, is there anything you can change? What exactly are you scared about? Is it rational? If yes, why is it rational? Can you write a note to think about it once the trip's over? What are you achieving by worrying about it? (I find that one to be very helpful as it helps me remember that fear is an emotion. It has no power to change a situation, it can't hurt you unless you let it, and it will only hold you back). Worst case scenerio (your plans have just fallen to shit, there's people you weren't expecting around you, someone's bothering you, people are starting to go into bad trips, etc) and the above suggestions have failed, I find it easiest to withdraw into yourself, foccus all your attention on your thoughts and just block out everything around you. I find that isolating yourself from the environment and those around you will help keep you from being influenced by the events around you, foccus on your thoughts rather than speaking, rather than worrying about freaking out, just be happy with your current state of mind and find a safe little 'happy place' where the only thing that matters is you and your thoughts.

I've only done it once but I owe a good trip to it despite 2 unexpected/unwanted drunk guests showed up, one of which was being very annoying, 1 guy going into a bad trip, tendinitus causing pain that felt like it was radiating from my foot to my testicle every so often, burning my mouth/throat drinking something far hotter than I'd originally realized, and thinking I'd shattered my tailbone on a ledge (which I eventually realized was just irration and there's almost no way it could have happened given the situation). Later on during the comedown after about 4 hours of absolute silence on my part I was able to open up again and start taking in my surroundings again and found myself going back and forth around my friend's house talking to and helping out one of the drunk friends who was now feeling sick and nausious and making people food/drinks and fetching stuff. I seemed to be the only one who's day didn't really seem to be affected by the unfortunate series of events.

Tripping is just a mental game and learning to control yourself and block yourself off from negative vibes is just one of the challenges. Least that's the way I see it


Just noticed you mentioned you punched out a glass door or something like that. First understand that tripping is NOT the time to act on emotions and thoughts, it's a time to experience and understand them. Any problems can always be solved once the trip is over and you can think more clearly.


Edited by StickyWater (05/30/06 01:30 PM)


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