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OfflineSneezingPenis
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Happiness...
    #5684423 - 05/28/06 07:45 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Is happiness default?

should we all forever be happy? are we owed that? are we born happy?

Are we not all individually responsible for our own happiness? have you found that often when you depend on happiness from an alternative source, it seems hollow? or doesn't last?

like drugs, or a mate.


Why does America think that it deserves to be happy just because a sperm and an egg got together and they were spawned from a uterus?

I think the biggest problem is that people think they need to conform to society to be happy, and that it seems easier to drug yourself into that position than do something proactive to change society.


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Re: Happiness... [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5684438 - 05/28/06 07:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

This post reminds me of a verse in a "song" I once wrote..

Quote:


between past and to the future the only moment could it be
Happiness is something temporarily,
always has to be renewed,
So if one need a source,
and it is life itself,
Well I be damn,
im happy all the fucking time!





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Re: Happiness... [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5684439 - 05/28/06 07:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Eh, shut up and take yer soma.

http://www.huxley.net/bnw/one.html

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Re: Happiness... [Re: Gomp]
    #5684444 - 05/28/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Gomp said:
This post reminds me of a verse in a "song" I once wrote..

Quote:


between past and to the future the only moment could it be
Happiness is something temporarily,
always has to be renewed,
So if one need a source,
and it is life itself,
Well I be damn,
im happy all the fucking time!








those are some good lyrics. :smirk: :thumbup:


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Re: Happiness... [Re: Veritas]
    #5684461 - 05/28/06 08:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

http://psychrights.org/force_of_law.htm

Forced medication.....I think we have surpassed brave new world.


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Re: Happiness... [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5685083 - 05/28/06 11:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Is happiness default?




Yep.

Quote:

should we all forever be happy? are we owed that? are we born happy?




Should be; Can I owe myself something?; Am I born walking?

Quote:

Are we not all individually responsible for our own happiness? have you found that often when you depend on happiness from an alternative source, it seems hollow? or doesn't last?




You got it; Couldn't have said it better

Quote:

like drugs, or a mate.




It's sad but you can only rely on yourself.

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Why does America think that it deserves to be happy just because a sperm and an egg got together and they were spawned from a uterus?






The unfortunate spoiled children.

Quote:

I think the biggest problem is that people think they need to conform to society to be happy, and that it seems easier to drug yourself into that position than do something proactive to change society.




People will never know unless they seek. The idea of the individuality is underrated, right?


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Re: Happiness... [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5685589 - 05/29/06 03:17 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

psilocyberin said:

Why does America think that it deserves to be happy just because a sperm and an egg got together and they were spawned from a uterus?





:rolleyes:


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Re: Happiness... [Re: gregorio]
    #5685640 - 05/29/06 04:45 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

good point gregorio /sarcasm


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Re: Happiness... [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5685663 - 05/29/06 05:30 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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psilocyberin said:
Is happiness default?




it's an erroneous understanding of homeostasis.
you could interchange the words in almost any conversation.

since homeostasis will be attained naturally, the more artificial consideration of "where is happiness?" falls away in triteness and confusion.

this confusion is usually what gets passed down - generation after generation - of people trying not to be trite. "will that make you happy dear?"

harmony might be a more artful and memorable direction.


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Re: Happiness... [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5685890 - 05/29/06 09:04 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I think the state of relaxation is the state that we should expect as healthy and norma, rather than happiness.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Happiness... [Re: Icelander]
    #5685904 - 05/29/06 09:15 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i would rather be in a state of Mu. Can't be extatic all the time, cant be depressed all the rest of the time. A balance is in order, some might find me booreing but i am content with that.

I am still happy when things of good fortune come my way. I am happy when music fills the air. I am sad when i dont feel good, i am down when a friend dies.


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Re: Happiness... [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5686009 - 05/29/06 10:32 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yes there must e a balance, but I think, in a very big measure, it's up to us whether we're happy or not.
You see, people tend to get depressed to easily. And I'm saying that because I've been there. And I somehow realized that I have the power to be as strong as I need to fight anger and all these bad feelings, I just have to really want it.
The problem is that when we're feeling down, we have almost no intention of getting out of it. Because we're like blinded, and we can't see the good and enjoyable parts of life. It's like we're stuck there.
But with a little more determination, we can become able to fight what's killing us from inside and go back to better feelings. It's not an easy thing to do, but it's not impossible. Not to mention the feeling of accomplishment we have after we succeed  :smirk:. It's only a matter of exercise and determination.
And I say, if there IS happiness, why not try the best we can do to live it?


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All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs

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Re: Happiness... [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #5686027 - 05/29/06 10:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

MushroomTrip said:
Yes there must e a balance, but I think, in a very big measure, it's up to us whether we're happy or not.
You see, people tend to get depressed to easily. And I'm saying that because I've been there. And I somehow realized that I have the power to be as strong as I need to fight anger and all these bad feelings, I just have to really want it.
The problem is that when we're feeling down, we have almost no intention of getting out of it. Because we're like blinded, and we can't see the good and enjoyable parts of life. It's like we're stuck there.
But with a little more determination, we can become able to fight what's killing us from inside and go back to better feelings. It's not an easy thing to do, but it's not impossible. Not to mention the feeling of accomplishment we have after we succeed  :smirk:. It's only a matter of exercise and determination.
And I say, if there IS happiness, why not try the best we can do to live it?




i feel as if people use the word "depressed" often in the wrong context. 
The feeling down is a que to do something, but it often turns to apathy and self loathing.  People take things for granted and feel things should just be there all the time, but most know with age that nothing is for free.  What ever it is in life and life itsself you have to work for it.  When people get depressed they lack the motivation to keep themselfs afloat falling further into the proverbial rut. 

Motivation, passion, and doing what you yearn to do is the only way to feal fullfilled.  The lack of doing what we are each ment to do is the major problem.  Achieving goals and setting new ones and keeping yourself intune with the feelings that arise with each day is the only way to stay on your game.  Its a dance you got to move with it.


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Re: Happiness... [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5686093 - 05/29/06 11:06 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Happiness and sorrow are both the results of immense numbers of causes and conditions. They are not Self-So. If you are attached to happiness, then the logical thing to do would be to see to it that the conditions/causes needed for happiness are brought to fruition.

However, no matter how hard I may strive for happiness, I find lasting happiness to be a very elusive thing. Sure I may feel happy and elated and ecstatic from time to time, but I also feel sorrowful, sad, or unhappy from time to time. Emotions by their nature fluctuate. It has been said by many sages that when you no longer seek after happiness, then you will be happy.

But remember, everything that arises, abides, or ceases is brought about through causes and conditions. They are as real as a dream.


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But makes for the heaviest sword"
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Re: Happiness... [Re: Icelander]
    #5689269 - 05/30/06 12:39 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Icelander said:
I think the state of relaxation is the state that we should expect as healthy and norma, rather than happiness.





:thumbup: :thumbup:


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