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MikeLL
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Hey everyone, first time poster, and some ?s
#5683936 - 05/28/06 05:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey everyone, ive been reading this board for a little bit and i think its great, its nice to have access to other people who share my interestes in psycadelics, sometimes its hard to talk to people in day to day life that have closed minds.
After years of curiosity, I worked up the nerve and got my hands on some mushrooms. Its really hard though, for me to go through with it, as much as i desire to because i dont know the source, i dont know for sure if the mushrooms are safe. The person who gave them to me uses them all the time though... I guess im just looking for piece of mind ya know? I'm so excited for this but i have that apprehension about it because i dont KNOW for a FACT that there safe, its like i need to see someone take them and not die in order for me to be ok. I know this may sound silly but its how my mind works. The bag is full of mostly stems, with one small cap. There white and gold, with gold flakes all over, it almost looks like there's some greenish and white mold on the stems, atleast that's what it looks like, im just unsure. Any advice?
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Re: Hey everyone, first time poster, and some ?s [Re: MikeLL]
#5683970 - 05/28/06 05:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hi Mike, Welcome.
I'll try to give you some answers. If you wanna be sure your mushrooms are safe, take a small amount (very small!) and chew it for a few seconds. That is assuming you're willing to risk yourself... 
As for your mushrooms, they sound like cubes, and the gold flakes on top would be an agent used to help keep the mushrooms dry. Not dangerous, but not healthy. Try to dust some of it off if possible. About the mould: Avoid at all costs! You don't wanna get sick! If you have to, turf those mushies. It's not worth your health to take something that might make you sick.
Hope this helps, and good luck. I was nervous for my first too (only last Friday!) but once you've began the experience, it's something you'll remember forever.
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MikeLL
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Re: Hey everyone, first time poster, and some ?s [Re: MikeLL]
#5684056 - 05/28/06 05:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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TPC,
Thank you for the advice, its helpful. Do you think its safe to scrape off the mold, like you could on a slice of bread? The cap has no mold on it, would it be safe, do you think? The mold dosent seem to be on all of the stem pieces. Thank you again and i apologize for my ignorance.
Mike
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Re: Hey everyone, first time poster, and some ?s [Re: MikeLL]
#5684089 - 05/28/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Welcome to the boards Mike.
Those gold flakes on the mushrooms are called vermiculite, and as ThreePieceSuit said it is used to help keep them dry. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I am pretty sure that the presence of the gold flakes ensures that the mushrooms were grown in somebody's home, rather than picked. This has always given me peace of mind, not having to worry whether or not somebody picked the wrong kind of mushrooms. The greenish white that you see on the stems shouldn't be a problem. I just pulled out my little baggie of "cubes" (psilocybe CUBEnsis, which also inspired my forum nickname ) and they have similar colors at the base of the stems. Remeber that mushrooms are a fungus so that slight discoloring is not really a problem. If you see alot of dark black splotches then you would want to avoid eating them, or post pictures of them for people to identify if it was bad.
Anyways, it sounds like you have a pretty standard batch of cubes. Do you know how much you got? (how much it weighs?)
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Re: Hey everyone, first time poster, and some ?s [Re: CUBErt]
#5684101 - 05/28/06 06:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Could that stuff just be bruising? it'd cause discoloration in the stem and may not be mold.
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Re: Hey everyone, first time poster, and some ?s [Re: MikeLL]
#5684115 - 05/28/06 06:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I agree with CUBErt about the greenish color on the stems. It is one of the characteristics of psilocybes to turn a blue color on the stems after harvesting. Is it a bluish shade of green? Post a pic to be sure.
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Re: Hey everyone, first time poster, and some ?s [Re: nicechrisman]
#5684165 - 05/28/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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The gold stuff is called vermiculite, and it is probably left over from where it was attached when it was grown. I've never heard of it being used to dry things, but I know its used in the PFTek recipe.
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Re: Hey everyone, first time poster, and some ?s [Re: Triad]
#5684346 - 05/28/06 07:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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hey guys,
thanks again for all the help, its easing my mind ALOT. The discoloration in question resembles bread mold, thats why i made mention of it, i dont know alot about mushrooms at all, i was under the impression that they bruised dark blue, thats why the green and white looking stuff threw me off. Will the vermiculite cause any stomach problems for me? Sadly i dont have the ability to post pictures but i'll work on it. I also dont know the weight, its not a whole lot though. This is a very important thing for me and i appreciate the help, you guys have a great night.
mike
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Re: Hey everyone, first time poster, and some ?s [Re: MikeLL]
#5684710 - 05/28/06 09:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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sound like cubes sent a pic
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Re: Hey everyone, first time poster, and some ?s [Re: PsychdlcMes3]
#5684759 - 05/28/06 09:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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welcome Mikell!
post a picture of your mushies, only way for us to tell for sure if they are safe.
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Re: Hey everyone, first time poster, and some ?s [Re: Syle]
#5685030 - 05/28/06 11:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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He does not have a camera...
could you describe the 'mold' on the stems for me, mike?
WARNING: lengthy description of Psilocybe cubensis below:
If it is fuzzy/fluffy and protrudes from the stem, then it could be green mold. The mold will probably be white around the edges, and a distinct green color toward the center of the growth. More than likely though, it is just mycelium (a normal part of the mushroom that is safe to eat). If it is a thicker white fluff (not very fuzzy) and protrudes from the stem only a little, then it could be the mycelium. if the fuzz grows up the stem in small white rings that stop at the veil (veil- white or purple ring around the stem), then it is definitely mycelium. It may bruise bluish-green, but not the same color as the mold. the mold, as i said, is distinctly green. The mycelium will have blue spots in random places, as if it were touched and held in different places. The mold will be more organized and have a distinct zone of white, and a distinct zone of green.
The stems themselves should be a dull cream to white with a slight yellow discoloration, with a bluish-green color at the base where it was cut and handled (the more yellow the stem the greener the discoloration will be). The stems should be fibrous (if you pull a stem in part as if it were string cheese, the stem should split in half into fibery strands). The stems may be brittle if they are dry. The cap should be anywhere from Cinnamon brown to golden brown to light orange (a mix of yellow and brown, basically), and should be wrinkled and a little shiny. if you look under the cap, the gills (lines that radiate from around the stem) should be purple (if they are not, then the mushroom is probably immature and the gills should be grayish). The taste is very distinct and will always give the actives away, but unfortunately, you will not be able to identify the 'psily' taste until you have eaten positively IDed psychedelics because the taste is hard to compare. The best description I can give you is 'like rotten cucumbers and stale crackers, mixed with a little bit of asshole'. The smell should be kind-of sweet, kind-of nutty.
I don't mean to question your intelligence by defining some simple terms, but I want to make absolutely sure you understand my description. sorry 'bout that.
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Re: Hey everyone, first time poster, and some ?s [Re: Lysergic_Milkman]
#5685179 - 05/28/06 11:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
The best description I can give you is 'like rotten cucumbers and stale crackers, mixed with a little bit of asshole'.
 Very nice description
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Re: Hey everyone, first time poster, and some ?s [Re: CUBErt]
#5685511 - 05/29/06 02:15 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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i was nervous my first time too, but it turned out to be one of the best and most educational expieriences i have ever had. the understanding gained from mushrooms can be amazing. but that is just my personal expierience, everyone does shrooms for different reasons. just be sure to be in a good setting with a sitter your trust. good luck man.
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Re: Hey everyone, first time poster, and some ?s [Re: shaft]
#5686007 - 05/29/06 10:31 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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hey guys,
im sorry i dont have the ability to post a picture at this time. I know descriptions are not worth as much as pictures, i apologize. Really looking closely in the light, there are for sure some lines of dark green/blue on a couple of the stem pieces, small amount though. Holding a piece in my hand, there is also some fluffy white stuff on a couple of the pieces too, it kinda fluffs away when i use my thumb on it.
I think some of this might be me psyching myself out. Im gonna look on this site for pictures and see if i can match it up with any.
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Re: Hey everyone, first time poster, and some ?s [Re: MikeLL]
#5686099 - 05/29/06 11:09 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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hey guys,
There is a post in the contamination forum with pictures, entitled "some old cubes.h" These are EXACTLY what my bag of mushrooms look like, if i was able to post a pic of mine, it would look JUST like those pics posted on that thread. I believe the thread is on page 2, im not sure how to make it a link.
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Re: Hey everyone, first time poster, and some ?s [Re: MikeLL]
#5686142 - 05/29/06 11:31 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Milkman,
youre not insulting me at all my friend, im ignorant when it comes to mushrooms, i have zero experience with them. The caps and stems are just as you described. There is no foul odor to them at all if that means anything. The greenish bluish coloration in areas is not raised or even that abundant. The best thing i can say is the pictures on the thread i mentioned pretty much match my mushrooms to a T.
Shaft,
thanks for the good word. Psycadelics are very spirual for me, ive never used psycadelics to get "fucked up" or to escape, im happy with my life im not trying to escape through drug use. Its meditation to me and a way to reflect and learn about myself and the world. Im happy to hear your experience was positive.
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Re: Hey everyone, first time poster, and some ?s [Re: MikeLL]
#5704244 - 06/02/06 01:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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anyone?
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Re: Hey everyone, first time poster, and some ?s [Re: MikeLL]
#5704290 - 06/02/06 02:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hmm, well, it's hard to be sure, but chances are that is just the bruising. Have you ever seen a bit of wood that's been left in the water for awhile? It stains a strange bluish green color. If you could compare that to the color on your mushrooms, my guess would be that it's not mould at all.
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Re: Hey everyone, first time poster, and some ?s [Re: MikeLL]
#5704298 - 06/02/06 02:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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since u cant post pics. please, if it looks like mold, they are bad and can make u sick. if its not mold, and the colors blue, its safe.
there may be some fuzzy mycelium at the base of the stem, if u push on the fuzzy moldy stuff, does it turn blue? some green molds are reflective too, and reflect silverish light back at one angle, try and get a closer look i.e. microscope or something.
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Re: Hey everyone, first time poster, and some ?s [Re: MikeLL]
#5704364 - 06/02/06 02:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Green mold is not toxic in small amounts. If you want to stay on the safe side, I suggest you simmer them and make a tea
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Re: Hey everyone, first time poster, and some ?s [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5704578 - 06/02/06 03:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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mike, i am happy to hear that you utilize mushrooms (or will) for a noble reason, i am confident that you will have a good expierience when you try them. alot of people get in over their heads when they just want to "see shit move" and whatnot, and are not prepared for the trip. i am confident in you my friend. good luck and vibes to you. if the parts you think are mold bruise blue, then you should be ok.
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Re: Hey everyone, first time poster, and some ?s [Re: shaft]
#5712212 - 06/04/06 06:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I appreciate everyone's patients with me. Im going to be dosing this week most likely and i will type out a trip report.
Shaft,
thanks for your kind words. I swear man, i dont consider myself a druggie at all and i actually feel bad for the people i know that use any psychadelics just to go nuts or be fucked up, there missing the bigger picture ya know? Everytime i smoke, i have a notebook by my bedside so i can write while i contemplate. I take using pyschadelics seriously, as a tool for understanding and contemplation. I'll let ya know how it goes!
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