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Trepidations about E
#5683888 - 05/28/06 05:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I hadn't done drugs in years up until recently (except for cocaine). I haven't smoked weed since I was 19. I hadn't tripped since I was 20. I have done cocaine maybe three times from the age of 20 to the present (always when I was at a party and somebody shoved it in front of me). I just lost interest in drugs and I was very drug-free overall.
I actually have started to dabble in drugs again for some reason. I did some Special K at an unammed place and with an unnamed person . I took a small dose of some type of magic mushrooms (not sure what type they were exactly) several weeks ago. My trip was OK. It was fun at times, but it got a little uncomfortable for a while though. Now I remember why I stopped tripping. I just really have no interest in doing it anymore. I have also been doing a copious amount of nitrous oxide. I love that shit.
But, I have never done Ecstacy. I remember wanting to try it when I was younger but I just never got the opportunity. I never even thought about doing it until recently when a friend invited me to come chill with him and a couple of other people and we would all drop a tablet. This offer kind of rekindled my interest. I am thinking of trying it.
But, I am scared that I will turn into a massive dork on E. I've heard of people becoming excessively clingy and excessively talkative. I can just see myself hanging all over people, pestering them about their feelings, talking about the universe, talking about stuff that I prefer to keep to myself, and annoying the hell out of everybody.
Should I maybe do half of a pill? Does anybody have any suggestions?
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5683890 - 05/28/06 05:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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do 2 pills and dont give a shit about your apprehensions, that'll all change when the drug kicks in, and dont grab no dudes ass
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5683893 - 05/28/06 05:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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3 made me bust
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
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eat the whole thing if your with true friends they will understand that your fucked up and dont know any better and will get a good laugh out of it the next day. You might too.
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Daytripper420 said: eat the whole thing if your with true friends they will understand that your fucked up and dont know any better and will get a good laugh out of it the next day. You might too.
Well, I only know this one dude. I don't know the other people. Also, the one dude that I do know I haven't known for very long.
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I'm taking one with my girlfriend tonight. And maybe next week I'll invite my girlfriend's girlfriend over as well and give her some too. Thus the threesome ensues.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5683909 - 05/28/06 05:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 is right...lol its an amazing drug, not one to be abused though...just drop a pill or two with a couple friends in a nice relaxed safe place, drink a fair amout of water and it will be a great experience. Ecstacy makes you so happy about everything.Try to get the pure MDMA...alot of people use MDA, MDE ect...it especially sucks when they cut it with herion, amphetamines and other junk...i say go for it, being a dork on E is to be expected from anyone.
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What if there are people there that aren't on E though? Will they be annoyed by my behavior? Will I start spilling my guts like a sniveling wimp?
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5683929 - 05/28/06 05:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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explain tp them beforehand that you will be talkative...that way u can atleast say you warned them...they shouldn't get them mad or anything, might actually lighten things up for them.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5683932 - 05/28/06 05:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Be sure you're around people who you trust, and who aren't going to judge you. It's true that your behavior may become rather eccentric, but if you're around the right people, then it shouldn't matter. If you do it with some friends who are familiar with its effects, then they should be fairly understanding.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: Silversoul]
#5683942 - 05/28/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Silversoul said: Be sure you're around people who you trust, and who aren't going to judge you. It's true that your behavior may become rather eccentric, but if you're around the right people, then it shouldn't matter. If you do it with some friends who are familiar with its effects, then they should be fairly understanding.
Well, I really don't know these people all that well. But, even if I were to do it around people that I know I still would have these trepidations.
I just know that I will turn into "Super-Dork" on the stuff. I'll probably have a blast doing it though....I will just hide my head in shame the next day.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5683949 - 05/28/06 05:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've made a fool of myself several times on drugs. I don't sweat it. I know others get a kick out of it, and I still have a good time. So why worry?
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: Silversoul]
#5683954 - 05/28/06 05:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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fuck it man, you only live once, and who really gives a fuck about what others think anyway
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: Silversoul]
#5683956 - 05/28/06 05:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Silversoul said: I've made a fool of myself several times on drugs. I don't sweat it. I know others get a kick out of it, and I still have a good time. So why worry?
I guess one of the main things I am worried about is emotional pain coming to the surface. I am scared that I will open up about stuff that I just don't want to open up about (like my father's death). I have always dealt with emotional pain by burying it and trying to ignore it. I don't like to talk about any pain that I have. I like to be in control and reserved.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5683962 - 05/28/06 05:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Maybe that's your problem. Maybe it'll be healthy for you to open up about those things. E has a tendency to make it easier to deal with such things, which is why it was so popular among psychiatrists before it was made illegal.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5683966 - 05/28/06 05:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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E is very nice in moderation. I wish you the best experience! Once the pill gets going, you will be a-okay. I agree to do it around people familiar with the effects of E.
Check out my hubby's 2005 NE Gathering video lurking around here. He highly enjoyed his first roll.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: Silversoul]
#5683978 - 05/28/06 05:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Silversoul said: Maybe that's your problem. Maybe it'll be healthy for you to open up about those things. E has a tendency to make it easier to deal with such things, which is why it was so popular among psychiatrists before it was made illegal.
I'm sure that facing and admitting emotional problems and pain is the "healthy thing to do". But, I really don't want to do it. I always deal with hurtful things by burying it and not thinking about it. It is just too painful to focus on certain subjects.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5683982 - 05/28/06 05:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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You may want to try e by yourself the first time. It was originally used in a therapeutic setting, particularly with post-traumatic stress syndrome & relationship difficulties.
Check out this thread:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5679132/an/0/page/0
Relax and enjoy. Don't get talked into drinking tons of water, as that is what has caused the rare negative effects among e users.
Have a blissful time, dear.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: MOTH]
#5683983 - 05/28/06 05:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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EllemyshShade said: Check out my hubby's 2005 NE Gathering video lurking around here. He highly enjoyed his first roll.
Is that the one where he goes on and on about the universe and various types of consciousness-related stuff? That's another big reason I don't want to do E....what if I end up like that.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5683988 - 05/28/06 05:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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RandalFlagg said: I'm sure that facing and admitting emotional problems and pain is the "healthy thing to do". But, I really don't want to do it. I always deal with hurtful things by burying it and not thinking about it. It is just too painful to focus on certain subjects.
But that's the beautiful thing about ecstacy: It helps you face painful subjects, but without the pain.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5683994 - 05/28/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Rub VIX on your ballz
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5683995 - 05/28/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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If it's any comfort to you my 16 yo brother just did a roll for his first time at his prom after party. He had no experience with any chemicals other than alcohol before that night. I did the same pills as him and personally know that they were very decent rolls. From what he says he had one of the most amazing night of his life. Most of the people at the party were just acquaintances, although he had a couple of real good buddies, and female friends there with him. From what I hear he held his composure very well, didn't make an ass out of himself, but he was the life of the party. On a side note I'm very proud of him for breaking his psychedelic cherry. 
Drop a full pill and enjoy man, you won't regret it.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5684011 - 05/28/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just to reassure you, I should point out that in a social setting, the introspective aspects of E will be less prominent. So you probably won't have to deal with those inner demons anyway.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: Silversoul]
#5684012 - 05/28/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is going to sound strange...but part of me likes what emotional pain I have. I like the fact that I have a few festering emotional scars. I'm not sure if I want to get rid of them.
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Corporal Kielbasa said: Rub VIX on your ballz
That would be kind of expensive. I would have to use two...maybe three containers of the stuff.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5684036 - 05/28/06 05:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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You shouldnt care what people think, really. Its not like you HAVE to be their friends afterwards if they become dicks. And if it really bothers you, then do it alone. You will not turn into a "super-dork" , you will turn into a euphoric, love filled individual, who will be in awe of all the beauty in the world. You will want to dance, listen to music, look at the lights and make friends with those around you. Not dorky per se, just friendly. I dont think that if you took the rolls you would have a bad time due to the things you have buried. ( By the by, you are hurting yourself by holding those things in, because trust me they'll surface on their own with or without drugs and it wont be pretty) my big question is why wouldnt you want to talk about all things concious-related and etc, you seem to not want to reap the benefits of what alot of psychedelics/ drugs have to offer. I say take two, keep hydrated, and be open to the things your mind tells you.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5684038 - 05/28/06 05:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think you should take at least 1 whole pill, and say "fuck it" to what other people think, and to what you may or may not do to make a fool of yourself. You're almost guaranteed to have a great time, and I'm betting you won't regret it. If possible, do it with people who you know fairly well, or with a small group.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5684045 - 05/28/06 05:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Your totally in control. You will talk if you want to talk, you can stop if you want. But once you get into a conversation its weird how e can make a 5 min talk into a 2 hour debate on life, space, time, and religion.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5684046 - 05/28/06 05:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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E is the one drug I believe everyone should try at least once. I'm not much of a drug user and I love it.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5684052 - 05/28/06 05:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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RandalFlagg said: This is going to sound strange...but part of me likes what emotional pain I have. I like the fact that I have a few festering emotional scars. I'm not sure if I want to get rid of them.
I think you're over-analyzing this way too much bro. You're putting all of these preconceived ideas of what the experience will be like into your mind. You don't know how it is going to effect you until you're there. Clear your head of the various assumptions you have, drop a roll, and have an amazing night. Just roll with it. (pun intended)
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I'm with blinkidiot on this one. Just do it, and quit worrying about it. Whatever happens happens.
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mattzdope said: I think you're over-analyzing this way too much bro. You're putting all of these preconceived ideas of what the experience will be like into your mind. You don't know how it is going to effect you until you're there. Clear your head of the various assumptions you have, drop a roll, and have an amazing night. Just roll with it. (pun intended)
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Also Im dropin tonight too!
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: Stonerguy]
#5684078 - 05/28/06 05:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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mattzdope said: I think you're over-analyzing this way too much bro. You're putting all of these preconceived ideas of what the experience will be like into your mind. You don't know how it is going to effect you until you're there. Clear your head of the various assumptions you have, drop a roll, and have an amazing night. Just roll with it. (pun intended)
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5684083 - 05/28/06 05:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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EllemyshShade said: Check out my hubby's 2005 NE Gathering video lurking around here. He highly enjoyed his first roll.
Is that the one where he goes on and on about the universe and various types of consciousness-related stuff? That's another big reason I don't want to do E....what if I end up like that.
Yeah, what if (and so what?) Kevin recounts that experience as one of the best of his entire life. Any sheepishness he felt afterwards was just as sweet. 
Also, talking through personal deep-seated issues on E doesn't hurt. It feels WONDERFUL. Like Ecstasy. Talking feels spectacular on E. The talking is one of the things I like best about the drug.
I understand you feel a little apprehensive about embarking on this new experience. But I seriously think you should consider throwing any regard for 'social decorum' out the window. Don't worry about what others will think of you. Just focus on having YOUR personal E experience, whatever that will consist of.
Have fun.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: Silversoul]
#5684285 - 05/28/06 06:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Silversoul said: But that's the beautiful thing about ecstacy: It helps you face painful subjects, but without the pain.
this is why many psychologists feel it to be the single most beneficial therautic drug ever, those doctors are fighting to have it pulled from the controlled substance schedule
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5684296 - 05/28/06 06:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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This thread is great, I wwas having the *exact* same apprihension about trying E, for the same reasons. I'll end up taking it sooner or later, I think.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5684312 - 05/28/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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RandalFlagg said: This is going to sound strange...but part of me likes what emotional pain I have. I like the fact that I have a few festering emotional scars. I'm not sure if I want to get rid of them.
Because lifes too good and then you'll actually have to do something?
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5684387 - 05/28/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Take it, E provides an experience that can be used for tremendous growth as a human being.
Your fears and insecurities will die when you die, realize that all they do while you're on earth is to keep you from love. Realize this and live life without them, they will always be there. A trained dog only comes when he's called.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: Cherk]
#5684705 - 05/28/06 09:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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What I love about E is that it's so useful and insightful, but at the same time, it's so pleasurable and hedonistic. You get the best of both worlds.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: Cherk]
#5684714 - 05/28/06 09:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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My friend, an older head once said....."if its your first time doing something take twice the "normal single" dose". So two or three would do you good.
I been on a major semi sobriety kick the past couple years. Haven't ate a bean or thumbed some molly in a long long while. I was dosing a lot after i had some ruff times and needed to find a healing path. I had the most amazing experiences in a sea of people all grooving to some of the most positive up lifting music i ever heard. The summer days of touring from concert to festival to concert to party kicking it with good people. It took me a while to process it but it made me happy.
I been going to shows and just drinking beer since then. It's not the same. I still groove but its not the same, i don't get into the trance like dancing state of total bliss as easily, and by the time i do the show is coming to an end.
So maybe this summer i might need to get back on the boat and git down.
Moderation is key finding the right energy inlet and outlet is key positivity is key reflection is also key
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