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Corporal Kielbasa

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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5683994 - 05/28/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Rub VIX on your ballz
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THE KRAT BARON
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5683995 - 05/28/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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If it's any comfort to you my 16 yo brother just did a roll for his first time at his prom after party. He had no experience with any chemicals other than alcohol before that night. I did the same pills as him and personally know that they were very decent rolls. From what he says he had one of the most amazing night of his life. Most of the people at the party were just acquaintances, although he had a couple of real good buddies, and female friends there with him. From what I hear he held his composure very well, didn't make an ass out of himself, but he was the life of the party. On a side note I'm very proud of him for breaking his psychedelic cherry. 
Drop a full pill and enjoy man, you won't regret it.
-------------------- m00nshine is currently vacationing in Maui. Rumor has it he got rolled by drunken natives and is currently prostituting himself in order to pay for airfare back to the mainland but he's having trouble juggling a hairon addiction. He won't be back for a long while.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5684011 - 05/28/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just to reassure you, I should point out that in a social setting, the introspective aspects of E will be less prominent. So you probably won't have to deal with those inner demons anyway.
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RandalFlagg
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: Silversoul]
#5684012 - 05/28/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is going to sound strange...but part of me likes what emotional pain I have. I like the fact that I have a few festering emotional scars. I'm not sure if I want to get rid of them.
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RandalFlagg
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Corporal Kielbasa said: Rub VIX on your ballz
That would be kind of expensive. I would have to use two...maybe three containers of the stuff.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5684036 - 05/28/06 05:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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You shouldnt care what people think, really. Its not like you HAVE to be their friends afterwards if they become dicks. And if it really bothers you, then do it alone. You will not turn into a "super-dork" , you will turn into a euphoric, love filled individual, who will be in awe of all the beauty in the world. You will want to dance, listen to music, look at the lights and make friends with those around you. Not dorky per se, just friendly. I dont think that if you took the rolls you would have a bad time due to the things you have buried. ( By the by, you are hurting yourself by holding those things in, because trust me they'll surface on their own with or without drugs and it wont be pretty) my big question is why wouldnt you want to talk about all things concious-related and etc, you seem to not want to reap the benefits of what alot of psychedelics/ drugs have to offer. I say take two, keep hydrated, and be open to the things your mind tells you.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5684038 - 05/28/06 05:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think you should take at least 1 whole pill, and say "fuck it" to what other people think, and to what you may or may not do to make a fool of yourself. You're almost guaranteed to have a great time, and I'm betting you won't regret it. If possible, do it with people who you know fairly well, or with a small group.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5684045 - 05/28/06 05:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Your totally in control. You will talk if you want to talk, you can stop if you want. But once you get into a conversation its weird how e can make a 5 min talk into a 2 hour debate on life, space, time, and religion.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5684046 - 05/28/06 05:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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E is the one drug I believe everyone should try at least once. I'm not much of a drug user and I love it.
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THE KRAT BARON
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5684052 - 05/28/06 05:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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RandalFlagg said: This is going to sound strange...but part of me likes what emotional pain I have. I like the fact that I have a few festering emotional scars. I'm not sure if I want to get rid of them.
I think you're over-analyzing this way too much bro. You're putting all of these preconceived ideas of what the experience will be like into your mind. You don't know how it is going to effect you until you're there. Clear your head of the various assumptions you have, drop a roll, and have an amazing night. Just roll with it. (pun intended)
-------------------- m00nshine is currently vacationing in Maui. Rumor has it he got rolled by drunken natives and is currently prostituting himself in order to pay for airfare back to the mainland but he's having trouble juggling a hairon addiction. He won't be back for a long while.
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I'm with blinkidiot on this one. Just do it, and quit worrying about it. Whatever happens happens.
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Stonerguy
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mattzdope said: I think you're over-analyzing this way too much bro. You're putting all of these preconceived ideas of what the experience will be like into your mind. You don't know how it is going to effect you until you're there. Clear your head of the various assumptions you have, drop a roll, and have an amazing night. Just roll with it. (pun intended)
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Also Im dropin tonight too!
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Corporal Kielbasa

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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: Stonerguy]
#5684078 - 05/28/06 05:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Stonerguy said:
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mattzdope said: I think you're over-analyzing this way too much bro. You're putting all of these preconceived ideas of what the experience will be like into your mind. You don't know how it is going to effect you until you're there. Clear your head of the various assumptions you have, drop a roll, and have an amazing night. Just roll with it. (pun intended)
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Also Im dropin tonight too!
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5684083 - 05/28/06 05:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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EllemyshShade said: Check out my hubby's 2005 NE Gathering video lurking around here. He highly enjoyed his first roll.
Is that the one where he goes on and on about the universe and various types of consciousness-related stuff? That's another big reason I don't want to do E....what if I end up like that.
Yeah, what if (and so what?) Kevin recounts that experience as one of the best of his entire life. Any sheepishness he felt afterwards was just as sweet. 
Also, talking through personal deep-seated issues on E doesn't hurt. It feels WONDERFUL. Like Ecstasy. Talking feels spectacular on E. The talking is one of the things I like best about the drug.
I understand you feel a little apprehensive about embarking on this new experience. But I seriously think you should consider throwing any regard for 'social decorum' out the window. Don't worry about what others will think of you. Just focus on having YOUR personal E experience, whatever that will consist of.
Have fun.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: Silversoul]
#5684285 - 05/28/06 06:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Silversoul said: But that's the beautiful thing about ecstacy: It helps you face painful subjects, but without the pain.
this is why many psychologists feel it to be the single most beneficial therautic drug ever, those doctors are fighting to have it pulled from the controlled substance schedule
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5684296 - 05/28/06 06:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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This thread is great, I wwas having the *exact* same apprihension about trying E, for the same reasons. I'll end up taking it sooner or later, I think.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5684312 - 05/28/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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RandalFlagg said: This is going to sound strange...but part of me likes what emotional pain I have. I like the fact that I have a few festering emotional scars. I'm not sure if I want to get rid of them.
Because lifes too good and then you'll actually have to do something?
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5684387 - 05/28/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Take it, E provides an experience that can be used for tremendous growth as a human being.
Your fears and insecurities will die when you die, realize that all they do while you're on earth is to keep you from love. Realize this and live life without them, they will always be there. A trained dog only comes when he's called.
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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: Cherk]
#5684705 - 05/28/06 09:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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What I love about E is that it's so useful and insightful, but at the same time, it's so pleasurable and hedonistic. You get the best of both worlds.
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Corporal Kielbasa

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Re: Trepidations about E [Re: Cherk]
#5684714 - 05/28/06 09:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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My friend, an older head once said....."if its your first time doing something take twice the "normal single" dose". So two or three would do you good.
I been on a major semi sobriety kick the past couple years. Haven't ate a bean or thumbed some molly in a long long while. I was dosing a lot after i had some ruff times and needed to find a healing path. I had the most amazing experiences in a sea of people all grooving to some of the most positive up lifting music i ever heard. The summer days of touring from concert to festival to concert to party kicking it with good people. It took me a while to process it but it made me happy.
I been going to shows and just drinking beer since then. It's not the same. I still groove but its not the same, i don't get into the trance like dancing state of total bliss as easily, and by the time i do the show is coming to an end.
So maybe this summer i might need to get back on the boat and git down.
Moderation is key finding the right energy inlet and outlet is key positivity is key reflection is also key
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