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Depositing illegally acquired cash into bank account
    #5682914 - 05/28/06 09:30 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Hypothetically speaking, if one were ordering certain chemicals on the internet and then selling them to friends, how risky is it to keep depositing this cash into a bank account and then using the debit card to purchase more chemicals online? Is someone going to notice this strange influx of cash? How much can I get away with depositing before someone notices? I would just mail the cash to the company, but that's pretty risky too. Any hints, suggestions? Thanks!


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Re: Depositing illegally acquired cash into bank account [Re: butane] * 1
    #5682928 - 05/28/06 09:37 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

just put lass than 10,000 any more and the feds will be called


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Re: Depositing illegally acquired cash into bank account [Re: Brainiac]
    #5683340 - 05/28/06 12:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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butane said:
Hypothetically speaking, if one were ordering certain chemicals on the internet and then selling them to friends, how risky is it to keep depositing this cash into a bank account and then using the debit card to purchase more chemicals online?




one of the dumbest plans ever, online purchases are easily tracked, the cash deposits are the least of your worries, the watched chemicals will send up a red flag and have the 'purchasing agent' under surveilance in no time



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just put lass than 10,000 any more and the feds will be called




I believe the amount is now down to $2500 unless you're a business


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Re: Depositing illegally acquired cash into bank account [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5683442 - 05/28/06 01:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I'd like to see a link on that. $2500 is an awfully low $$ amount for the fed to keep track of all of them. There are an awful lot more $2500+ transactions than $10,000 ones.


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Re: Depositing illegally acquired cash into bank account [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5684525 - 05/28/06 08:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I know in 1991 it was $6000.00, Ask someone in a bank.


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Re: Depositing illegally acquired cash into bank account [Re: KaptKid]
    #5684775 - 05/28/06 09:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I agree that 2500 sounds incredibly low.


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Re: Depositing illegally acquired cash into bank account [Re: KaptKid]
    #5685992 - 05/29/06 10:17 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I know in 1991 it was $6000.00, Ask someone in a bank.





in about '95 it was at $5k, after that my transactions were much larger and I always knew it was reported from there.

LF, it may sound like a very small amount but again, it's dealing with indiviual
accounts, not businesses and given todays modern age where manpower is much less
a concern with electronic transfers and notifications that are worldwide in a
matter of seconds, all stored in these little boxes called computers, it's
really not difficult to track a transaction of any amount

they already track emails and the like through the same means


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Re: Depositing illegally acquired cash into bank account [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5686432 - 05/29/06 01:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

OIC, it would be hard to actually investigate them all tho


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Re: Depositing illegally acquired cash into bank account [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5687734 - 05/29/06 06:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

My friends who work at banks say 10,000.

For individual accounts. He is bank manager.


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Re: Depositing illegally acquired cash into bank account [Re: Liquidkick]
    #5687753 - 05/29/06 06:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

That's what I thought.


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Re: Depositing illegally acquired cash into bank account [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5689634 - 05/30/06 03:12 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

they sell prepaid anonymous type credit cards...that way you dont get screwed, and you can keep it out of the bank.


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Re: Depositing illegally acquired cash into bank account [Re: Liquidkick]
    #5690024 - 05/30/06 09:02 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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My friends who work at banks say 10,000.
For individual accounts. He is bank manager.




I've had to fill out the IRS forms on $5000 deposits/withdrawals


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Re: Depositing illegally acquired cash into bank account [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5690143 - 05/30/06 10:20 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I have deposited 25000+ in cash into the bank and havent heard from anybody yet. I own a bunch of vending accounts where all the revune is coins/singles.


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Re: Depositing illegally acquired cash into bank account [Re: butane]
    #5690295 - 05/30/06 11:21 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I would just mail the cash to the company, but that's pretty risky too. Any hints, suggestions? Thanks!

money orders.


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Re: Depositing illegally acquired cash into bank account [Re: OrizonsHorizon]
    #5690614 - 05/30/06 12:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I have deposited 25000+ in cash into the bank and havent heard from anybody yet. I own a bunch of vending accounts where all the revune is coins/singles.




generaly you dont here from them unless you arent paying taxes


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Re: Depositing illegally acquired cash into bank account [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5690696 - 05/30/06 01:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

well I'm not paying/claiming sales tax nor income tax....When I place an order from Coke, they do charge sales tax on there bill. I probably should investigate this---I dont know if Im somebody whos just slipping through the cracks but Im currently not paying any taxes watsover. I dont know if having a "student account" has anything to do with it but my bank associate should of told me something by now if I was doing anything blatantly illegal. I have well over 30000 in that account----25,000 was deposited in the form of coin wraps and singles.


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Re: Depositing illegally acquired cash into bank account [Re: OrizonsHorizon]
    #5693176 - 05/30/06 11:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

how long do they keep bank records? in canada

how do you close ur bank account?

what happends if you dont close your account and theres no money in there.


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Re: Depositing illegally acquired cash into bank account [Re: Shroom_Guy]
    #5696314 - 05/31/06 07:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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how long do they keep bank records? in canada




I have no idea....records can probably be accessed for years since everything is stored on a network.

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how do you close ur bank account?




YOu just go in and say I would like to close my account...takes about 5 minutes and they give you a money order,check (or cash if they amount isnt 5 digits)

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what happends if you dont close your account and theres no money in there.




Shit doenst happen in the US and I doubt it will happen in Canada either. I access my online banking everyother day, view my available funds/history and transfer money to my paypal moneymarket to get the higher insterest rates.


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Re: Depositing illegally acquired cash into bank account [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6742076 - 04/03/07 12:32 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I know this is old but just in case anyone is searching for info, as of yesterday the USPS anti money laundering program's dollar amount is down to $3000.00 you have to fill out a form blah blah blah.

This includes purchasing money orders.


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Re: Depositing illegally acquired cash into bank account [Re: StroFun]
    #6742510 - 04/03/07 02:23 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Yes it is 3000, and it has been 3000 for a while.

I have been through about 30 anti-money laundering classes. There is more in place than you can imagine to connect the dots of money laundering. I also write AML software for banks across the nation. You arent going to get away with any large amounts of money unless you have a business and a good reason for depositing it.

If you want to launder money, then stay under 1000 bucks. And if depositing that much is suspicious for your account, expect our software to alert a banker who may then file a SAR (suspicious activity report). There are many many other reasons SAR's are filed too...dont fuck with banks.

If you really need to launder large amounts of money, get yourself an attorney, set yourself up a good LLC for a front, and get yourself a good accountant (accountants and lawyers can almost always be payed off to do whatever you want them to...but realize they will always put you in the position to take the fall).

Honestly, there are pleanty of things you can still do with cash. Dont try to integrate your drug money into your finances, thats when you really get into some high crime...and you wont have local PD after you, DEA will be all over it when you start to make real money from drugs.

Yea people get away with it, but its only time. People also get caught ever day, and the penalties for money laundering get stricter all the time. Money laundering also falls under the jurisdiction of the Patriot Act...are you ready to lay down all of your rights just to get money into the bank?


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