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homusubi
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I have to case, or not?
#5682812 - 05/28/06 08:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hi ppl!!! Some months ago, i started with mushrooms. I try 2 times to get PF cakes and rice jars, but i didn't success, so i decided to try LC. Maybe it will be strange for you, but i didn't had a single problem whit LC, and now i have some jars full of floating mycelium, and no contamination problems. Some days ago, i took some mycelium with a syringes, and inject it in 5 home made cultivation bags with 500g rice. Now they are half colonized. I'm wondering, do i need to make casing? or can i just put a 4 cm colonized rice layer in some container, and set it in the terrarium? any tips?
thx for the help
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Re: I have to case, or not? [Re: homusubi]
#5682814 - 05/28/06 08:46 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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You need to do casing... its cheap + easy + super effective. The casing layer creates an optimal microclimate for pinning. It will end up badass! Good luck! 
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Prisoner#1
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Re: I have to case, or not? [Re: homusubi]
#5682825 - 05/28/06 08:54 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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homusubi said: Now they are half colonized.
you dont have to case and being half colonized you have plenty of time to decide and do more reading on the subject, most of us prefer to case because it will increase the size of the flush with a lot less work involved
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Atheist
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Re: I have to case, or not? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5682857 - 05/28/06 09:11 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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its really easy too
first casing ever:

B+ with PF tek cased with all vermiculite
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homusubi
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Re: I have to case, or not? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5682864 - 05/28/06 09:14 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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homusubi said: Now they are half colonized.
you dont have to case and being half colonized you have plenty of time to decide and do more reading on the subject, most of us prefer to case because it will increase the size of the flush with a lot less work involved
i know i still have time 
my original plans are to case, but i was just wondering if the other method will work.
-------------------- "Entonces, mientras camines por esta tierra, Tu y tus hijos abrazar?is las Tinieblas, beber?is s?lo sangre, comer?is s?lo cenizas, ser?is como fuisteis en el momento de morir, nunca muriendo, siempre viviendo. Caminar?is para siempre en las Tinieblas, todo cuanto toqu?is se desmoronar?, hasta los ?ltimos d?as".
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Prisoner#1
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Re: I have to case, or not? [Re: homusubi]
#5682884 - 05/28/06 09:22 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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it will fruit from the rice substrate, it can apso be spawned to poo if you are so inclined, but casings are easy and almost fool proof, Ideal for no0bs
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Psychoslut
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Re: I have to case, or not? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5682892 - 05/28/06 09:24 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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spawning some poo is very easy too.
throw poo in hot water for a couple hours, cool it, mix in some spawn
it really doesnt get any easier than that but i guess ive been doing it awhile too though
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[quote]KristiMidocean said: Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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hyphae
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Re: I have to case, or not? [Re: homusubi]
#5682899 - 05/28/06 09:26 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes others methods will work however pinning an uncased substrate takes just the right conditions most easily accomplished with automated grows (coolmists/ultrasonics) where very high RH (in suspension) can be obtained during the pinning stage, if your using a perlite/misting for RH and water delivery then yields will suffer unless you get it perfect. GL
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Psychoslut
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Re: I have to case, or not? [Re: hyphae]
#5683003 - 05/28/06 10:14 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not casing can be a bitch sometimes because if Rh falls below 90 for even just a few hours the top layer of mycelium dies and the pin set turns horrible. My way of doing it is to spawn the poo, let it colonize 60-90% then trigger pinning with light, and swithching the foil cover with wax paper.
Doing it like that you can get pin sets comparable to cased bulks.
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[quote]KristiMidocean said: Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Prisoner#1
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Re: I have to case, or not? [Re: Psychoslut]
#5683008 - 05/28/06 10:15 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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60-90% colonized can allow contams to take hold
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Psychoslut
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Re: I have to case, or not? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5683020 - 05/28/06 10:20 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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its works good for me and Ive only had a couple instances of green mold. my thought behind it is it can start pinning before the mycelium makes a dense flat mat of un pinnable mycelium.
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[quote]KristiMidocean said: Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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hyphae
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Re: I have to case, or not? [Re: Psychoslut]
#5683071 - 05/28/06 10:48 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Psychoslut said: its works good for me and Ive only had a couple instances of green mold. my thought behind it is it can start pinning before the mycelium makes a dense flat mat of un pinnable mycelium.
Timing and experience will works much better IMHO.
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is Gas Exchange vs. FAE "We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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Psychoslut
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Re: I have to case, or not? [Re: hyphae]
#5683084 - 05/28/06 10:57 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't even mess with growing cubes anymore. I'm messing with shiitake, reishi, and black poplar.
Its a bit more difficult to grow the edibles because there are no set teks explaining exactly what to do like with cubes.
But when I was growing the cubes i was always doing all sorts of different things to try and improve my pinning method. That way of doing it i said earlier worked well for me but its just that cubes pin well no matter what anyways as long as the substrate moisture, light, humidity and FAE is good.
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[quote]KristiMidocean said: Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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