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JSshroom
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Fogger Woes - Need experienced help
#5681431 - 05/27/06 07:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Alright here is my old setup.
 the humidifier was only 10 inches high or so. So I had to refill it all the time  Well i cut a hole in the kit and made more room for a taller one as seen here.
  giving me an extra 4 inches of water. Well for one the fogger would not work. It would not get the fogger to come up to the top. It would put a constant ripple on the top of the water. When brought to less of a depth it produced fog. AGAR is getting his to work in the bottom of a 5 gallon bucket? I also tried it with another fogger that has fancy lights and what not for mist pond. Same effect. Now also it does not seem to be producing fog as readily? Its only been used for 2 grows is it already wearing out? And why wont it work at a deeper depth.
I also took the deeper humidifier and lowered the water level to wear it would make fog and it would not fill up the chamber it just stayed at the bottom?
Do I need to run leads down with airstones or what? Or get a different kind of fogger? its just the run of the mill i guess
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Re: Fogger Woes - Need experienced help [Re: JSshroom]
#5681793 - 05/27/06 09:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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You have to get a buoy for the ultrasonic fogger to float in. It will keep it at the right depth to work correctly.
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Re: Fogger Woes - Need experienced help [Re: JSshroom]
#5682047 - 05/27/06 11:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey when you get a chance throw me that link for the fogger, I lost the one agar suggested. So I dont know what the deal is, since I have not yet used them. My experience kinda stops with I dont have too play with. But you know who is also good at this is mogur, good man maybe he will drop in, if not try to PM him. 
The thing I saw was that is a looks like a small pump, maybe two or the one that I have been using, which I think would rock that FC.
Well it looks like a good start, just have to dial it in. 
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JSshroom
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Re: Fogger Woes - Need experienced help [Re: _____]
#5683759 - 05/28/06 04:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pics please or some ebay links. I want to see what this thing looks like. I need one. I remember in a post by agar that someone else mentioned that you needed a buoy and he replied that he did not use one and it worked fine. I wish he would get into his new digs and get back to being a Mentor.
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Re: Fogger Woes - Need experienced help [Re: Snaggletooth]
#5684182 - 05/28/06 06:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Snaggletooth said: Hey when you get a chance throw me that link for the fogger, I lost the one agar suggested. So I dont know what the deal is, since I have not yet used them. My experience kinda stops with I dont have too play with. But you know who is also good at this is mogur, good man maybe he will drop in, if not try to PM him. 
The thing I saw was that is a looks like a small pump, maybe two or the one that I have been using, which I think would rock that FC.
Well it looks like a good start, just have to dial it in. 
Here ya go bro Foggers
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Re: Fogger Woes - Need experienced help [Re: hyphae]
#5684244 - 05/28/06 06:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Why thank you sir
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Re: Fogger Woes - Need experienced help [Re: JSshroom]
#5684298 - 05/28/06 06:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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the amount of mist may reduce due to some mineral build up on the surface of the mist ceramic piece.
cleaning ceramic piece with soft cloth and see if it fixes shit.
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JSshroom
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Re: Fogger Woes - Need experienced help [Re: Fungi_x]
#5684697 - 05/28/06 09:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have that same fogger. the first one. but it still does not answer the Q of what this buoy thing looks like or if its neccessary? Or where to get one and you can pick those up off ebay for 18$ shipped
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Re: Fogger Woes - Need experienced help [Re: JSshroom]
#5684776 - 05/28/06 09:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes they are necessary when used in water depths deeper than a few inches and they are pictured in the link I posted.
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is Gas Exchange vs. FAE "We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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Re: Fogger Woes - Need experienced help [Re: hyphae]
#5684921 - 05/28/06 10:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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another issue I have with my kit. The water in the eco is getting HOT. like easily in the high 80's. Is this the foggers doing or the light rope which will be leaving soon?
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Re: Fogger Woes - Need experienced help [Re: JSshroom]
#5685925 - 05/29/06 09:28 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'd say mostly the fogger but the combination will raise the heat. Increase FAE's as much as possible without dropping RH levels to an unacceptable range. I tell ya the Homer2's rock by design!
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is Gas Exchange vs. FAE "We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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Re: Fogger Woes - Need experienced help [Re: hyphae]
#5686076 - 05/29/06 10:58 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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u know that little brown disc thing on your fogger? they burn out might also wanna try running to petsmart (i know we have them) not sure about petco. but try replacing that. just a thought.
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#5686147 - 05/29/06 11:33 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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JSshroom
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Re: Fogger Woes - Need experienced help [Re: _____]
#5686345 - 05/29/06 12:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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how does it keep the fogger at the right level. I ordered a bouy but it may be to big for my 4 inch pvc and I may need to fab what you have there.
The fogger is heating the water to warm to the touch. I have not put a thermometer in it only running 15 minutes every hour or so. I have a big 5500 air pump mabey ill stick that on there instead of the 3300
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JSshroom
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Re: Fogger Woes - Need experienced help [Re: _____]
#5686488 - 05/29/06 01:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ill put my fogger in a cup for an hr and see if increases or decreases the temps.
that looks like cpvc of sorts. What is that little tray made out of? I take it there are a few holes drilled in the shelf so water flows in?
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#5688673 - 05/29/06 09:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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JSshroom
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Re: Fogger Woes - Need experienced help [Re: _____]
#5689072 - 05/29/06 11:44 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I will check this out, but on another note agar has a photo of a mist maker putting out a ton of fog under 6 inches of water. I can use a buoy but Ill have to mod my cabinet more and build a little longer system to account for the buoy. It would be way easier if I could get a fogger that would work under 6 inches of water. any idea where I can get one?
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hyphae
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Re: Fogger Woes - Need experienced help [Re: _____]
#5689764 - 05/30/06 06:00 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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questonic said: I dunno. Mine doesn't work that deep. Mine hardly works deeper than 2 inches, really... but man does it pump some mist off when optimally placed.
Nobody's works at deeper depths they (foggers) are made to be place just under the surface thats why they make bouy's! FYI
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Re: Fogger Woes - Need experienced help [Re: JSshroom]
#5689768 - 05/30/06 06:03 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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JSshroom said: I will check this out, but on another note agar has a photo of a mist maker putting out a ton of fog under 6 inches of water. I can use a buoy but Ill have to mod my cabinet more and build a little longer system to account for the buoy. It would be way easier if I could get a fogger that would work under 6 inches of water. any idea where I can get one?
Nice thing here is less maintance is required when you can fill your reservoir deeper making for less fillings. 6 inches of water drops pretty fast when fogging IME.
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is Gas Exchange vs. FAE "We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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JSshroom
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Re: Fogger Woes - Need experienced help [Re: hyphae]
#5691187 - 05/30/06 04:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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also as far as the fogger heating the water up. IT IS. rapidly actually. in reference to the other post on it possibly being defective I also have a brand new fogger for a mist pond that makes colors and stuff and stuck it in there and it made the water hotter as well. So whats up with some people getting there fogger to cool the water
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JSshroom
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Re: Fogger Woes - Need experienced help [Re: JSshroom]
#5692708 - 05/30/06 09:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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this was a responce from the fogger company.
It is normal that the fogger increase water temperature when it is in use, depending on the size of the water container, the bigger size container, the less heat accumulated. you may use a small pump to pump water between two containers to cool off the water by circulating water. Thanks,
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