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subaeruginosa?
    #5678475 - 05/26/06 09:16 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: subaeruginosa? [Re: bomshankar]
    #5678494 - 05/26/06 09:20 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

i dunno... where did oyu find them?


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Re: subaeruginosa? [Re: nobhdy]
    #5678534 - 05/26/06 09:30 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Impossible to tell from those dry shrooms.....absolutely essential fresh samples are needed in this case......theyre are shrooms that bruise BLUE that have brown spores and grow along side SUBs which are deadly.....dont let anyone here tell you different.....anyone.... even you can respond to a ID request and I can show you some advice that would scare the #@*%! outta ya !!!.....some maybe my OWN !!!!!! :frown:


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Re: subaeruginosa? [Re: bomshankar]
    #5678536 - 05/26/06 09:30 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

its a shitty photo but those definatly looks like subs to me.
its hard to tell the colour in that photo it looks more like black than blue.
but if thats blue at all then yes they are subs.
make sure your spore print is slightly purply/chocolate dark brown.
but if that colour all up the stems and on the caps is indeed bluethen you got the right ones.


EDIT: shroomidole i see your from america how is it that you know this for a fact about NZ shrooms???? in my experinece i have never found any deadly mushroom in NZ to bruise blue after picking.
and if what your saying is true i should be very worried about my latest find..... which im not
EDIT again: ah i see what mushroom your talking about now shroomindole, that cortinarious thing, ive never seen any myself. but even so this pic he showed looks very much like dried subs.


james to be sure i would keep drying these, and then go back to the spot in a few days and get some pics of some fresh ones growing in their habitat or at least pick some more from the same spot, take them home, and get pics of them while their fresh. also get more spore prints and compare to the previous ones just to make sure its the same type.

even so i have a bunch of subs drying now that look very much like your pic. despite the bad quality photo. 99% sure those are subs. but dont take my word for it.


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Re: subaeruginosa? [Re: munter1234]
    #5678802 - 05/26/06 10:51 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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".....but those definatly looks like subs to me............but if thats blue at all then yes they are subs................but if that colour all up the stems and on the caps is indeed blue then you got the right ones....

EDIT: shroomidole i see your from america how is it that you know this for a fact about NZ shrooms???? in my experinece i have never found any deadly mushroom in NZ to bruise blue after picking.
and if what your saying is true i should be very worried about my latest find..... which im not




this is one of those examples I was warning you about......those mushrooms could be any of several deadly mushrooms because its IMPOSSIBLE to SAFELY give a positive identifation on those or any other mushrooms in that condition.....remember.....there is a possibility these may be ingested.........

a huge amount of people come in here posting a pic of what they think might be bluing and not even close.....so say hes got a poison mushroom there that HE THINKS is bluing and eats it because you told him those ARE Psilocybe subaeruginosa with mushrooms a safe identification cant possibly be made.....

here are some pics for yall.....click.....
http://www.hiddenforest.co.nz/fungi/family/cortinariaceae/corti01p.htm

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there are also some nice shots of the same in here...click....
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5440182/an/0/page/0

and oh ya....be sure and save some peices of your last find with a note on in the fridge.....it can take up to three weeks before symtoms of fatal Cortinarius poisoning......


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Re: subaeruginosa? [Re: shroominDole]
    #5678822 - 05/26/06 10:57 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

i see.
well thanks for the warning shroomindole.
at least after seeing those pics i can be sure that the stuff that i found are subs, because they look completly differnt to those cortinarious things, and i have picked and ingested subs before so i know what to look for.

my advice for james is to go back to the same spot in a couple days and get some better photos of fresh ones young and old.


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Re: subaeruginosa? [Re: shroominDole]
    #5678969 - 05/26/06 11:38 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

There are no other mushrooms that look similar to subs, grow in similar locations that stain blue. subaeruginosa's blue staining is indicitive.
They look lie dried subs but its impossible to know without pics of them before drying.


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Re: subaeruginosa? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5679196 - 05/27/06 12:51 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

i'm pretty sure they arent cortinariuss, as the caps were a fairly dark yellow brown. i'm in south australia, and they turned blue from handling no doubt. not black. they looked identical to the photos in the post "s.a. subaeruginosa."
they look blacker now, after being dried for a week or so, but they were a blue when they were fresh. sound right? thanks heaps for the help


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Re: subaeruginosa? [Re: bomshankar]
    #5679314 - 05/27/06 01:27 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

The fact that their stems are bruising blue would indicate they most likely are subs as cortinarius bruises brown I believe and has a thicker base. :mushroom2:


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Re: subaeruginosa? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5679445 - 05/27/06 02:31 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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There are no other mushrooms that look similar to subs, grow in similar locations that stain blue. subaeruginosa's blue staining is indicitive.
They look lie dried subs but its impossible to know without pics of them before drying.




Exactly what i was going to say. Galerina's grow in same habitat, but do NOT bruise blue and drop a very rusty orange/brown print. Poisnous boletes bruise blue but they do not grow in the same environment as subs.

ShroominDole, it sounds like your trying to spread the word about harm minimisation which is a great thing, but please make sure you get your facts right. Misinformation can be as bad as no information at all.


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Re: subaeruginosa? [Re: DepthToTheCore]
    #5679488 - 05/27/06 02:51 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

They dont really look lke subs to me. My subs when dried are very obviously blue. They go blue all over.

Its pretty damn hard to tell.


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Re: subaeruginosa? [Re: Feelers]
    #5679512 - 05/27/06 03:01 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

alright thanks for all your help guys, does anybody have any pictures of some dried subs to compare?


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Re: subaeruginosa? [Re: DepthToTheCore]
    #5679580 - 05/27/06 04:05 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I think imma go ID some shrooms i've looked at for a bit that look slightly similar to subs.. but i know for sure poisonous.. maybe they're Galerina.

Might be useful to have a Victoria, Australia example of poisonous similarities to Psilocybe Subaeruginosa


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Re: subaeruginosa? [Re: ZenXi6]
    #5679587 - 05/27/06 04:24 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

ZenXi6, that'd be great, I've been waitingto know what exactly these bad ones look like. Looking forward to the pics!


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Re: subaeruginosa? [Re: Bread]
    #5679655 - 05/27/06 05:48 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

At my hunt today I found some really similar thing to subs - so close I had to check twice about them. I have never seen such close look alikes.
They were growing within each others populations too.

Shows how easy it is.....


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Re: subaeruginosa? [Re: bomshankar]
    #5679783 - 05/27/06 08:04 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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alright thanks for all your help guys, does anybody have any pictures of some dried subs to compare?




Here's some pics of my ones I've been drying out.

A few that have ben air drying for a few days:


Some bigger ones drying out for the same time:


Spore print from over several days!


One of the bigger, still not quite dry but getting closer mushrooms, with more bluing evident on the stem (moreso in rea life):


Also, I've noticed a couple of little jumping bugs here and there, but not until tonight did I notice the bigger worm things. I've got several 'bunches' of shrooms drying out and only tonight for the first time did I begin to notice the worms everywhere! A lot were dead but four or five were still writhing around. Ergh.


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Re: subaeruginosa? [Re: Bread]
    #5682349 - 05/28/06 01:50 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Ewwww.. maggots!! I've been desperately searching around for info on maggots and shrooms.. but haven't found much yet.

I know that since the Fungi kingdom is essentially one of those.. decompsition helperer-on-ers, and maggots like dead and gross things... i spoze logically u can imagine maggots liking shrooms and other fungi.

But - How do you stop maggots from infecting them? coz when drying.. you have to have the shrooms in a non-air tight area - meaning flys can still get there.. plus some are already infected without you knowing.

It seems to be the older the shroom, the more likely it's infected.

And Bread, they look like a bunch of subs to me.. but wait for someone more experienced to say.. but lookin good! blues everywhere!! Can't tell the spore print colour accurately enough though...




I hate maggots... and leeches..


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Re: subaeruginosa? [Re: shroominDole]
    #5682391 - 05/28/06 02:06 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

munter1234 said:
".....but those definatly looks like subs to me............but if thats blue at all then yes they are subs................but if that colour all up the stems and on the caps is indeed blue then you got the right ones....

EDIT: shroomidole i see your from america how is it that you know this for a fact about NZ shrooms???? in my experinece i have never found any deadly mushroom in NZ to bruise blue after picking.
and if what your saying is true i should be very worried about my latest find..... which im not




this is one of those examples I was warning you about......those mushrooms could be any of several deadly mushrooms because its IMPOSSIBLE to SAFELY give a positive identifation on those or any other mushrooms in that condition.....remember.....there is a possibility these may be ingested.........

a huge amount of people come in here posting a pic of what they think might be bluing and not even close.....so say hes got a poison mushroom there that HE THINKS is bluing and eats it because you told him those ARE Psilocybe subaeruginosa with mushrooms a safe identification cant possibly be made.....

here are some pics for yall.....click.....
http://www.hiddenforest.co.nz/fungi/family/cortinariaceae/corti01p.htm

EDIT:
there are also some nice shots of the same in here...click....
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5440182/an/0/page/0

and oh ya....be sure and save some peices of your last find with a note on in the fridge.....it can take up to three weeks before symtoms of fatal Cortinarius poisoning......




found these.. are they what i think they are?







I rekon that third pic looks a bit like a sub..


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Re: subaeruginosa? [Re: ZenXi6]
    #5682555 - 05/28/06 04:10 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Ewwww.. maggots!! I've been desperately searching around for info on maggots and shrooms.. but haven't found much yet.

I know that since the Fungi kingdom is essentially one of those.. decompsition helperer-on-ers, and maggots like dead and gross things... i spoze logically u can imagine maggots liking shrooms and other fungi.

But - How do you stop maggots from infecting them? coz when drying.. you have to have the shrooms in a non-air tight area - meaning flys can still get there.. plus some are already infected without you knowing.

It seems to be the older the shroom, the more likely it's infected.




Yes, maggots fucking everywhere! I was sitting at my computer earlier, with the shrooms drying out next to me... when I hear a strange noise, and look down to see a freshly expulsed maggot wriggling around amongst my shrooms!! They literally keep popping out. So obviously they've been there since I picked them and are starting to get out now.

Should I be concerned about this or is it normal??? Thy tend to die (well, stop moving around, at least) after a while but it still grosses me out. Some are teeny and others are a bit bigger. Is there a chance they will crawl back into my shrooms and decide to stay there for longer?

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ZenXi6 said:And Bread, they look like a bunch of subs to me.. but wait for someone more experienced to say.. but lookin good! blues everywhere!! Can't tell the spore print colour accurately enough though...




Yeah, they are subs. I posted fresh pics in another thread somewhere. Posted those pics to help jamesnumber1!


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Re: subaeruginosa? [Re: Bread]
    #5682561 - 05/28/06 04:26 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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ZenXi6 said:
Ewwww.. maggots!!  I've been desperately searching around for info on maggots and shrooms.. but haven't found much yet.

I know that since the Fungi kingdom is essentially one of those.. decompsition helperer-on-ers, and maggots like dead and gross things... i spoze logically u can imagine maggots liking shrooms and other fungi.

But - How do you stop maggots from infecting them?  coz when drying.. you have to have the shrooms in a non-air tight area - meaning flys can still get there.. plus some are already infected without you knowing.

It seems to be the older the shroom, the more likely it's infected.




Yes, maggots fucking everywhere! I was sitting at my computer earlier, with the shrooms drying out next to me... when I hear a strange noise, and look down to see a freshly expulsed maggot wriggling around amongst my shrooms!!  They literally keep popping out.  So obviously they've been there since I picked them and are starting to get out now.

Should I be concerned about this or is it normal???  Thy tend to die (well, stop moving around, at least) after a while but it still grosses me out.  Some are teeny and others are a bit bigger.  Is there a chance they will crawl back into my shrooms and decide to stay there for longer?



i think bugs are generaly an issue! i dry my shrooms out with slight heat so they curl up before i notice any bugs comin out and i dunno, i guess the bugs dry out with em  :laugh: haha extra flavor dude


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