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Invisiblespudamore
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people who care?
    #5677974 - 05/26/06 06:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

is caring enough??? i mean my girlfriend always goes on about or the worlds atrocities, like wars, famine, abuse and such, but is caring really helping these people that go through that, i think if you really care about something that you would find a way to actively help those people.
that may seem that i am apathetic to the events, which i am not, i just think we need to help those that are closest to ourselves before we start to help on a grand scale.
any thoughts??


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Re: people who care? [Re: spudamore]
    #5678471 - 05/26/06 09:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

most people only care about animals or other people because it makes them feel good about themselves to care.
and that is entirely selfish.

it's not that they love someone, it's that they love the idea that they're loving someone.
they become in love with their own feelings of love, and it really has nothing to do with anybody else.

caring is always going to mean sacrificing energy for someone else.
it means giving.


and yea, your family is a microcosm of the planet.
your community is a microcosm of the universe.
so you take care of your wife, and your kids and your family, and in turn it will help shape your community, which will in turn shape the universe.

that is how it's done.


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Re: people who care? [Re: Telepylus]
    #5678801 - 05/26/06 10:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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most people only care about animals or other people because it makes them feel good about themselves to care.
and that is entirely selfish.





Probably true.  But acting with love begins with love.

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so you take care of your wife, and your kids and your family,




Boudless love builds character.  The love it takes to go out of your way to help a stranger.

Exercises in compassion, such as ones like the poster's girlfriend unconsiously practices will help her to love others.  Love is happiness. :heart:


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Re: people who care? [Re: justAkid]
    #5678859 - 05/26/06 11:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

but pining over the same things over and over again without taking action does no good or doesn't help anyone.


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Re: people who care? [Re: Telepylus]
    #5678874 - 05/26/06 11:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Telepylus said:
most people only care about animals or other people because it makes them feel good about themselves to care.
and that is entirely selfish.

it's not that they love someone, it's that they love the idea that they're loving someone.
they become in love with their own feelings of love, and it really has nothing to do with anybody else.




i don't think it is selfish, almost everybody does something to make themself feel better. so its really nothing out of the ordinary.

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Telepylus said:
and yea, your family is a microcosm of the planet.
your community is a microcosm of the universe.
so you take care of your wife, and your kids and your family, and in turn it will help shape your community, which will in turn shape the universe.

that is how it's done.




i tend to agree with this, change starts at home.


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Re: people who care? [Re: spudamore]
    #5682267 - 05/28/06 01:07 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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spudamore said:
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Telepylus said:
most people only care about animals or other people because it makes them feel good about themselves to care.
and that is entirely selfish.

it's not that they love someone, it's that they love the idea that they're loving someone.
they become in love with their own feelings of love, and it really has nothing to do with anybody else.




i don't think it is selfish, almost everybody does something to make themself feel better. so its really nothing out of the ordinary.




Whether or not you're right, the ordinariness of something does not relate to its selfishness.


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Re: people who care? [Re: Disco Cat]
    #5682400 - 05/28/06 02:09 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

it is very ordinary for people to not really give a shit about anything but themselves.
take a look around.

and those are the nice people.
the other half actually get off on hurting people.

it's easy to talk about love, and it's easy to think you have it.
but i sure haven't seen any.

a perfect example is this guy here,
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=Forum6&Number=5681717&page=0&fpart=1

totally attacked me for no reason at all
except for his own pleasure

it really hurt my feelings too


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Re: people who care? [Re: Telepylus]
    #5684187 - 05/28/06 06:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

care? people don't care... they adapt


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Re: people who care? [Re: grimR]
    #5684264 - 05/28/06 06:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

How is it that you speak for all people with such assurance?


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Re: people who care? [Re: Icelander]
    #5684441 - 05/28/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Knowing is not enough. We must apply. - Bruce Lee

That is certainly true when it comes to martial arts. Sure, it's great to know, but you also have to consider the time when you are doing nothing but considering without action or possibly even reason. Observing sadness for the sake of feeling sad or angry is odd. =)


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Re: people who care? [Re: spudamore]
    #5686154 - 05/29/06 11:39 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

tele, hehe, OTD should be renamed in Bullshitzone or something. No serious discussions as I have seen there as I looked there before half a year or so :wink:

Yes, the circle of care should start with oneself in a healthy balance. Too less care is unhealthy, as too much is.
Once one is quite happy, one may start with the nearest beings around and widen ones circle.
This is the natural way and there is only one exception: Emergency care, then you can jump over your direct 'range of social influence' to some immediate care on the other side of the planet, for example.
The relativity of direct care to emergency care is getting out of balance these days, I think. I see that the self-balancing regional care systems are not functioning anymore especially in the poor countries and once an emergency 'need' is starting somewhere on the planet, it starts out like a fire or a fever and seems to get uncontrollable much faster than in earlier days (crisis regions).

Crazy people.

Another thing to think about: Mind selfish care (not self-care), which, like selfish love has a strong connection to desire and is unhealthy.


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Re: people who care? [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #5692328 - 05/30/06 08:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

What's mind selfish care?


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Re: people who care? [Re: The_Hobbit]
    #5694248 - 05/31/06 10:01 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I meant, be aware of selfish care, sorry.


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Re: people who care? [Re: Telepylus]
    #5694650 - 05/31/06 12:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Telepylus said:
it is very ordinary for people to not really give a shit about anything but themselves.
take a look around.

and those are the nice people.
the other half actually get off on hurting people.

it's easy to talk about love, and it's easy to think you have it.
but i sure haven't seen any.

a perfect example is this guy here,
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=Forum6&Number=5681717&page=0&fpart=1

totally attacked me for no reason at all
except for his own pleasure

it really hurt my feelings too




THIS IS BS

My posts are sometimes indirected but usually try to invoke humor, obviously you have no sense of humor.



Edited by capliberty (05/31/06 01:45 PM)


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