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Time travel
    #5677852 - 05/26/06 05:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

here is a question to ponder...
If you were to go back into the past 50 years and etch your name into a tree and then go forward 25 years and kill your grandfather is that mark on the tree there in 50 years


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Re: Time travel [Re: thirdEYEviewe]
    #5677857 - 05/26/06 05:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

time travel to the past is impossible. time travel into the future is possible.


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Re: Time travel [Re: Syle]
    #5677869 - 05/26/06 05:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i understand this, however, when i first was asked this question a stange feeling of how incredible stange time is attacked me.
If you were to actually go back in time and kill your grandfather then he could not actually die becuase you were never born creating a vortex/repeation and in my mind, the end of time.


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Re: Time travel [Re: thirdEYEviewe]
    #5677899 - 05/26/06 06:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

you are here..

If you go back and kill your grandfather, you will as yourself, be killing your potential self, thus you would be the one killing, even after your grandfather and your other potential self, is dead..

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Re: Time travel [Re: Gomp]
    #5678488 - 05/26/06 09:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I pitty da fool who uses da most common time-travel paradox like i's new  :mrt:

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Re: Time travel [Re: SDP]
    #5678566 - 05/26/06 09:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The only prerequisite for time travel is understanding what time is.

Time is an illusion.
Time is something that is created by the central nervous system.
In reality there is only Eternity happening.

All things are happening at once, simultaneously in eternity.

Time is Male, that is why it seems linear and straight.
Space is Female, it is everything that is curved.


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Re: Time travel [Re: Telepylus]
    #5678609 - 05/26/06 09:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Time is [just] a measure!?

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Re: Time travel [Re: Gomp]
    #5678654 - 05/26/06 10:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

what came first the chicken or the egg?
they both came into being at the exact same moment, and they both uphold each other, and maintain each other like a balance.
Like time, space, and consciousness.
one didn't come first.
they came into being at the exact same moment.
Same with a family unit, the mother (space), the father (time), and the child (consciousness).

Time is a sort of way for us to measure the immeasurable.
These 3 are one.
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Re: Time travel [Re: thirdEYEviewe]
    #5679010 - 05/26/06 11:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Presumably itd be a different timeline


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Re: Time travel [Re: thirdEYEviewe]
    #5679017 - 05/26/06 11:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

thirdEYEviewe said:
here is a question to ponder...
If you were to go back into the past 50 years and etch your name into a tree and then go forward 25 years and kill your grandfather is that mark on the tree there in 50 years




Well, if you are over the required age of 18 to post here (you better fucking be :mad:), then I don't think it will matter if you kill your grandfather twenty-five years ago, because he will have already propagated his genetics and produced your father.

You could be like Fry and be your grandfather, as the result of time travel. :lol:

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Re: Time travel [Re: Syle]
    #5679313 - 05/27/06 01:26 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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time travel to the past is impossible. time travel into the future is possible.




I don't think it's a matter of being possible or not. It has only been discovered so far that when matter approaches light speed, that it's relation in time is going slower than say, stationary people on earth. It is merely altering time, not going into the future. And if it can be altered one way, how can you prove it can't be done the other way. Who knows what the future holds.... what is the future?


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Re: Time travel [Re: thirdEYEviewe]
    #5679368 - 05/27/06 01:51 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I think that if time travel ever beomes possible that there would have to be many different time lines that take every possible action into account. This is because too many paradoxes would result otherwise. For instance: What if you went back in time and killed your father before you were born and then impregnated a female. So how could you have offspring if you were never born? it would be possible to set up a situation where you could be your own child which is also illogical. That would altogether eliminate tha possibilty of your becoming nonexistant. The many time line theory would allow one to change a possible past, but it would still not change your present, past, or future.


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Re: Time travel [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5679438 - 05/27/06 02:28 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

no ones listening to me, lol

i travel back and forth through time all ways


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Re: Time travel [Re: Telepylus]
    #5679548 - 05/27/06 03:32 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I'm listening. :wink:


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Re: Time travel [Re: Icelander]
    #5679551 - 05/27/06 03:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

you wouldnt be able to etch it in cause you already killed your self.


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Re: Time travel [Re: mikeownow]
    #5680028 - 05/27/06 10:32 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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you wouldnt be able to etch it in cause you already killed your self.




No he didn't.

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Re: Time travel [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5680321 - 05/27/06 12:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

what's the question? lol
if you go back in time and kill your father?

you've already done that, we all have.
you realize that you are more than one person right?
your mother and father, your sisters and brothers, your bloodline stretching back to the beginning of time, and forward to the end of time.

you are altering the past and the future right now with every slightest move of your fingers.

you'd be surprised at what you are upholding with your life.
if you knew you probably couldn't handle it.
this is why nobody really wants to know.

as i said, time travel is only a matter of understanding what time is.
it's a huge responsibility that nobody wants to deal with.
but some do yea.


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Re: Time travel [Re: Telepylus]
    #5680331 - 05/27/06 12:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i hate to mention the name christ because it usually turns peoples brains off, thanks to the church.

but christ is basically a time traveller.
what is heaven? a return to eternity (timelessness).
and i've already explained eternity if you need to go back and read that part.


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Re: Time travel [Re: Telepylus]
    #5680470 - 05/27/06 01:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

here is a similar question that involves time, and will probably be a little less contradicting.
In space, how can time possibaly exist if everything is completely black/lightless meaning there is nothing to compare movement to? Essentially the concept of self would be destroyed because without sound, sight, or smell a human is no different then space itself.


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Re: Time travel [Re: Syle]
    #5680528 - 05/27/06 01:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Syle said:
time travel to the past is impossible. time travel into the future is possible.




The langoliers see to that...;)


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Re: Time travel [Re: Veritas]
    #5680739 - 05/27/06 03:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Veritas said:
Quote:

Syle said:
time travel to the past is impossible. time travel into the future is possible.




The langoliers see to that...;)




well, i was merely speaking in terms of traveling at speeds approaching the speed of light.

to go into the past you have to go beyond the speed of light to the point where light bends and refracts...and then it just gets crazy theory-ness on your ass from there.


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Re: Time travel [Re: Syle]
    #5680751 - 05/27/06 03:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

true.
there is no speed limit to light.


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Re: Time travel [Re: Telepylus]
    #5680863 - 05/27/06 03:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

wait, there isn't? doesn't light travel at a set/constant speed?


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Re: Time travel [Re: Syle]
    #5680888 - 05/27/06 04:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I don't buy the notion that light "travels", moves, whatever. :grin:

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Re: Time travel [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5680892 - 05/27/06 04:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

well, it's a proven fact my friend  :smile:


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Re: Time travel [Re: Syle]
    #5680972 - 05/27/06 04:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Its not a proven fact, its an error in perception. :smirk:

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Re: Time travel [Re: Syle]
    #5680976 - 05/27/06 04:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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wait, there isn't? doesn't light travel at a set/constant speed?




i'll need a day or two to answer your question properly, but i promise i'll get back to it.

i'll need some time to formulate an answer that will make sense of this for you.
my time machine is refueling, lol


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Re: Time travel [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5681009 - 05/27/06 04:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

it's definently not an error. it might be theory in perception, but not an error. using the speed of light as a measurement has been an extremely useful tool in so many facets of the science world.


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Re: Time travel [Re: Syle]
    #5681028 - 05/27/06 04:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I was joking. :grin:

I would never pretend to know much of anything that concerns physics, first and foremost, as I have simply not studied into it. What I would like to express as a possibility, though, might relate to the notion of quantam objects functioning as both a point particle and a wave. I openly request anyone with more understanding to properly express or elaborate on that, as I probably didn't even refer to it right.

Anyways, I think that light exists as both energy that our consensual reality perceives as moving as it relates to other aspects of reality and as a state.

I don't feel as though I could expand upon that thought linguistically. :frown: Light could be considered to be aspects of reality that are fully realized, perhaps. :grin:

Forgive me, as I am not well versed in metaphysics either. :lol:

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Re: Time travel [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5681093 - 05/27/06 05:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"Anyways, I think that light exists as both energy that our consensual reality perceives as moving as it relates to other aspects of reality and as a state. "

i agree with that definently. but it still doesn't mean light doesn't have a maximum velocity.


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Re: Time travel [Re: Syle]
    #5681098 - 05/27/06 05:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

In relation to other aspects of reality in a specific set of dimensions. :grin:

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Re: Time travel [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5681180 - 05/27/06 06:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

hehe


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Re: Time travel [Re: Syle]
    #27740971 - 04/18/22 08:29 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Quatum entanglement is the real meaning of time travel!


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    #27741385 - 04/19/22 04:51 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Quatum entanglement is the real meaning of time travel!



Can you explain what Quatum entanglement is?


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Re: Time travel [Re: Nillion]
    #27742682 - 04/19/22 08:12 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

It's the idea that when particles are entangled they become anti-podal...

When one particle moves up regardless of distance the other particle moves down instantaneously..

Or when one particle goes off the opposite particles turns on..

This is true regardless of distance between the entangled particles..

Einstein called this spooky action at a distance.  Almost as if the particles are commun8cating instantly in a higher or lesser dimension.. 1d space/branes vs something like 10th dimension.


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    #27744704 - 04/21/22 06:07 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

micro-nano-wormholes


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Re: Time travel [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27745526 - 04/21/22 04:50 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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micro-nano-wormholes



Please explain further..

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    #27745588 - 04/21/22 05:28 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I think this thread time travelled :tongue:


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Re: Time travel [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #27745610 - 04/21/22 05:47 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

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micro-nano-wormholes



Please explain further..

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obviously when the particles are entangled and then apparently separated, they remain joined in a wormhole through which anything that fits can pass instantaneously.
our dimension is folded and stretched imperceptibly in a higher dimension when entanglement works.
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Re: Time travel [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27745874 - 04/21/22 09:48 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Lets imagine particle rings..

This means the rotation of subatomic particles..

Imagine each circle or ring is a single segment of the wormhole..

Rotation and switch.. on and off..

Entangled as rings from one ring to another..


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    #27746164 - 04/22/22 03:30 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

like a ring a ding ding thing?


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Re: Time travel [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27746173 - 04/22/22 03:45 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Yeah you ring into the particle and go from there..

Choosing salvation or decay

Both of the whole judged by thermodynamics.


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    #27746174 - 04/22/22 03:46 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Thermodynamics is based on the most further you can extend within..

Leaving a remainder in quantum  mechanics..


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    #27746176 - 04/22/22 03:52 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Every new moment has ties to the past..

Quatum entanglement from the past.. but is everything serves to further.


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Re: Time travel [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #27746180 - 04/22/22 03:57 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

doesn't sound adequately quantumic


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Re: Time travel [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #27746448 - 04/22/22 08:37 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Lets imagine particle rings..

This means the rotation of subatomic particles..

Imagine each circle or ring is a single segment of the wormhole..

Rotation and switch.. on and off..

Entangled as rings from one ring to another..



Do any of these rings age?

Im interested in it the document the CIA released on it is fascinating but I doubt they*d want any normal everyday peeps to be able to time travel


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    #27746451 - 04/22/22 08:38 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

If it is a thing ai wonder why we haven*t been in contact with more travelers? Maybe we have they just keep it under wraps?


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Re: Time travel [Re: oursoulsinmotion]
    #27746481 - 04/22/22 08:52 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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If it is a thing ai wonder why we haven*t been in contact with more travelers? Maybe we have they just keep it under wraps?




I do feel like I have been in contact with time travelers. From a certain perspective it's the experience of kismet I think.

FWIW I also don't really understand how it's possible. But from what I can tell, it doesn't seem like building a machine is helpful with regards to it. It seems to me to have more to do with the nature of what already is.


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Re: Time travel [Re: thirdEYEviewe]
    #27749043 - 04/24/22 01:38 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

How can you travel through something that's a psychological construct/abstraction to begin with?


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Re: Time travel [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27762453 - 05/04/22 07:49 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Reality is a creation matrix...because of the idea of time travel exists..therefore..it may be fulfilled?


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    #27762692 - 05/04/22 11:20 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

the idea of deception exists


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