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Re: It's called PEAK OIL, goobler [Re: trendal]
    #5678492 - 05/26/06 09:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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trendal said:
Iran can produce more oil than it can use and then some, it doesn't have an energy problem.




there was an oil 'shortage' in Iran, Peter (my brothers neighbor) is Iranian,
he said gas prices climbed to 25 cents a gallon, his neighbor (in iran) filled
his swimming pool with gasoline to hoard the stuff because of this shortage
that pool of gas caught fire, burned several houses in the process.

they have the same energy problems we have


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Re: It's called PEAK OIL, goobler [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5678499 - 05/26/06 09:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

That made no sense


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Re: It's called PEAK OIL, goobler [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5678507 - 05/26/06 09:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

nothing makes sense to you


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Re: It's called PEAK OIL, goobler [Re: trendal]
    #5678521 - 05/26/06 09:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Mental masturbation. Peak oil... Cars. Fucking makes me sick. I live and die by the land. I already have acres of land for stills for my own fuel. To fuel the tractor, to fuel the land. Twenty acres on river and loamy sand. Future is looking bright,
PEAK OIL, peak my ass. Those motherfuckers can peek at the predicted numbers all they want. What if the number puncher was a *gasp* terrorist, or perhaps the old fargies, still wearing white curl wigs, in the white-house.


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Re: It's called PEAK OIL, goobler [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5678523 - 05/26/06 09:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Everyone will pay, the poorest will be hit hardest until the poor can't afford energy at all. Next will come the middle class, and that's when the fun starts.




When it hits the poor its going to hit everybody. This affects all aspects of the global society. Agriculture is highly dependent on fossil fuels for the production of fertilizers, tending of fields and delivery of the final product. PO will hinder a nation's ability to trade commodities. The travel industry along with entire cities that rely on tourism will collapse. Production costs related to acquiring other sources of energy will skyrocket. Its not as simple as poor people being unable to drive or heat their houses. This is going to affect every sector of modern society and I doubt the middle or upper classes can buy their way to safety. It will affect everybody.


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Re: It's called PEAK OIL, goobler [Re: TheDude]
    #5678554 - 05/26/06 09:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The end of civilization. Stock up on vegetable and other seeds, tools, food, and weapons.

When the internet goes down, meet me in the woods. :grin:


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Re: It's called PEAK OIL, goobler [Re: trendal]
    #5679644 - 05/27/06 05:38 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

sure the bets on

the $80 is nothing compared to the money I've made in the comodies end of it

I still don't think its peak oil though


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Re: It's called PEAK OIL, goobler [Re: goobler]
    #5679861 - 05/27/06 08:55 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yeah yeah peak oil... civilizations rise and fall all the time. does anyone actually think that we can continue living the way we are much longer? ...so out of touch?

goobler, what type of comodies? im interested in precious metals but need some guidence


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Re: It's called PEAK OIL, goobler [Re: BlueRidge]
    #5679889 - 05/27/06 09:19 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

right now I am dabbling in Oil, unleaded gas, gold and copper


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Re: It's called PEAK OIL, goobler [Re: goobler]
    #5679903 - 05/27/06 09:36 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

furures, orange juice and pork bellies.... both will be good this year


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Re: It's called PEAK OIL, goobler [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5680551 - 05/27/06 02:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

very true


stupidity looks good as well, may hit an all time high


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    #5680692 - 05/27/06 03:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: It's called PEAK OIL, goobler [Re: blink]
    #5680698 - 05/27/06 03:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I'm sure you'll find a way of getting some....blinkmeister!


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Re: It's called PEAK OIL, goobler, and I win [Re: trendal]
    #5925306 - 08/02/06 12:38 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Well it's August 2nd and the price is well over $50/bbl :wink:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4529898#Post4529898

The price closed yesterday just above $74/bbl.


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Re: It's called PEAK OIL, goobler, and I win [Re: trendal]
    #5925311 - 08/02/06 12:41 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

what are you gonna do with your barrel of oil?


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Re: It's called PEAK OIL, goobler, and I win [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5925361 - 08/02/06 12:58 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I'm gonna sit on it until the price doubles :grin:


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Re: It's called PEAK OIL, goobler, and I win [Re: trendal]
    #5925373 - 08/02/06 01:04 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

damned arabs


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Re: It's called PEAK OIL, goobler, and I win [Re: trendal]
    #5925403 - 08/02/06 01:14 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Oil production peaked in the 70's because we started getting cheaper foreign oil. There's been a major domestic production spike recently because it's become profitable to drill domestically again.

Oil is still the cheapest fuel available and will continue to be for 10-15 years. All that will happen is oil will slowly become a more costly fuel until a cheaper fuel is available. The change will be gradual and it won't be as devastating as many of you think.

There will always be a demand for oil.

This is what happened with coal. Coal is still mined and used industrially. Though, near the turn of the 20th century we began to switch from coal to oil. This is because oil simply became the most economical viable fuel.


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Re: It's called PEAK OIL, goobler, and I win [Re: Cowgold]
    #5925433 - 08/02/06 01:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Oil production peaked in the 70's because we started getting cheaper foreign oil.

No.

You turned to foreign oil because US production had reached its peak. Up to that point, US oil was cheaper than foreign oil but after the peak foreign oil became cheaper - not because the price of foreign oil had dropped...but because the price of US oil had risen (due to the peak in production).

There's been a major domestic production spike recently because it's become profitable to drill domestically again.

True, but the spike has not come anywhere near the 1971 peak of production. That's why it is called the peak. :wink:


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Re: It's called PEAK OIL, goobler, and I win [Re: trendal]
    #5925459 - 08/02/06 01:36 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

You seem to be the authority on oil. 

:rolleyes:

What I said was...

"Oil production peaked in the 70's because we started getting cheaper foreign oil."

Which is correct.  After we started getting cheaper foreign oil, it was no longer profitable for domestic drilling companies to drill here. (oil bust of the 80s is a prime example)  Domestic production costs were at an all time high and the cost per barrel began to drop because we were getting foreign oil for much lower costs. 

I'm not argueing with you about the amount of oil available, only that production dropped for other reasons.  This happened not because it wasn't there to be drilled, but because demand was at an all time high and we began getting it cheaper elsewhere.


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