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Re: so how about that iran invasion pool? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5717140 - 06/05/06 10:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
That puts a very fine point on the threat of obliteration issue, doesn't it? Words matter. As do sporadic but routine attacks by agents of neighboring hations.




You really haven't made one salient point at all recently. I PERSONALLY DO support Israels right to exist. However, saying that the dominant military force in the region, thats never lost one battle, needs our "help" is a bit illogical. Do you think that US Tax dollars should be going to relocate people frm the West bank?


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Re: so how about that iran invasion pool? [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5719606 - 06/06/06 04:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Money is fungible, so there is no way to say that any particular amount of money we send them is being used for any specific purpose. Most of the aid for Israel is military anyway. See this table:

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/U.S._Assistance_to_Israel1.html
03,04,05,06 are all either estimated or proposed so I'll give 02.


Total contribution 2.848B Military 2.040B.
According to their estimates and projections, the percent share of contributions being for military has increased since then, as other contributions have absolutely decreased, but this is nonetheless illustrative. Further, these can be characterized thusly:

http://www.miftah.org/Display.cfm?DocId=753&CategoryId=4

"Promotes American interests in the Middle East

* The US funding to Israel acts as the backbone for the strategic partnership between both countries. By advancing Israel's technological and military powers, the US is able to share intelligence information regarding Arab militant groups, like Hizbullah, as well as information regarding the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction in countries such as Iran, Iraq and Syria.
* Three quarters of the military aid to Israel goes for importing US-made military equipment such as F-16 and Apache attack helicopters. This creates a job market for US citizens and transforms Palestine into a test ground for US made weaponry, used daily against Palestinians.
* Israel has cooperated with the US arms industry to develop more effective military equipment at affordable costs to the US. About one quarter of the military aid to Israel is contributed towards military research and development, where several innovative jet fighters, missiles and navigating and targeting devices have been manufactured and sold back to the US. Examples are the ITALD, Litening, Popeye and the UAV. "

I bolded the above portion because I thought it was illustrative of two things. One that we give them money to buy OUR products and two that this site is not a kneejerk Israel loving kill the Pallys propoganda machine.

Are those fucking salient enough.

And frankly, if you can't see the value of helping the most threatened nation on the planet from falling prey to external thugs and murderers and enforcing the rule of law then I don't know what to say. There is no law without enforcement and I am not so confident that they are the invincible war machine you seem to think they are. They are better than their troglodyte neighbors but their troglodyte neighbors continue to ramp up their abilities.

Shalom


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