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Phred
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One of life's defining moments
#5673272 - 05/25/06 02:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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For some reason, Harper’s Magazine has suddenly printed an interview that took place last March, with a 27-year old British Muslim who says the “defining moment of his life” occurred when he had a close encounter with ... the dreaded ice cream dessert of blasphemy! I’m Hatin’ It.
From http://www.harpers.org/ImHatinIt.html --
The Enlightenment happened at half past 12 a.m. in Burger King, Park Royal. I had ordered my food, and a French guy got talking to me and asked, “Are you Muslim?” He said, “Look at this,” and he showed me the cone. I saw it and I thought, “Wow,” like anyone would. He said, “Turn it around.”
I was thinking of my stomach. I was hungry. I would have loved to eat an ice cream. When I saw it, my mouth fell open. I dropped the ice cream. I canceled my order. That was the defining moment of my life.
The Burger King logo is there in Arabic. “Allah” is spelled exactly how it is there, and the Burger King logo is where the ominah should be. Why, there is no way it could be a coincidence. How can you say it is a spinning swirl? How does it spin on something that is static? You cannot spin it around unless you have a mechanical device. You spin it one direction, to the right, and it is offending a billion people.
I’m not talking about Muslims in the Park Royal vicinity, or in the U.K. I’m talking about globally. Everyone who sees this is going to be offended. If you put a different symbol on there, you’re offending Jews, Christians, Sikhs, or Hindus. I am going to try my best in life, so that these people do not operate in a single Muslim country again, so that we get an apology to every single Muslim on this planet in their language, in their country, on a national TV station: “Sorry. We, as an American company, are sorry. We didn’t mean to offend you.”
What angers me most is that most people, once they have finished with it, they look at it and say, “Nice cone. Nice design. Nice cone design.” They chuck it away. That is disrespectful. Don’t throw it away. Keep it as evidence. A reminder of what these people are doing every single day of our lives.
We showed this to Muslim customers in Burger King and they were disgusted. We went to the manager. “Is this true?” we asked. He said, “Yes, my brother. It is true.” I spoke to two other Pakistani Muslim guys there and they said, “We are sickened.” They were cussing Burger King.
I feel humiliated. I want to humiliate the person who did this to an extent that he never works again. I’m going to make him see that it was the biggest mistake in his life. I want to meet the guy. I want to ask the guy, “What does this mean to you?” then never see his face again.
In a way, I’m glad he did this to me. It has opened my eyes. The fear of God, the love of God, the love of not letting anyone disrespect God. Even though it means nothing to some people and may mean nothing to some Muslims in this country, this is my jihad. I’m not going to rest until I find the person who is responsible. I’m going to bring this country down.
Note the reaction -- he's not going to boycott Burger King, he's going jihadi in order to "bring this country down". Seeing as how he lives in London, I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume he intends to bring England down. For allowing Burger King (an American company) to do business in Londonistan, presumably.
Forget all about the Iraq invasion and other supposed meddling by England in the affairs of Muslim countries as a reason for jihad -- this guy was cool with that, it seems -- no, what pushed him over the line was seeing a stylized representation of a swirl of ice cream.
You just can't make stuff like this up.
Phred
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Re: One of life's defining moments [Re: Phred]
#5674082 - 05/25/06 06:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fucking wacko. I would love to gather people like this up and slather them in pig grease while they are forced to watch pornographic movies.
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Re: One of life's defining moments [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5674111 - 05/25/06 06:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
RandalFlagg said:

Fucking wacko. I would love to gather people like this up and slather them in pig grease while they are forced to watch pornographic movies.
Ummmmmmm, can I volunteer? Sounds like fun.
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Re: One of life's defining moments [Re: Phred]
#5674120 - 05/25/06 06:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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and he showed me the cone. I saw it and I thought, “Wow,” like anyone would.
Not me. I've seen an ice cream cone before....
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Re: One of life's defining moments [Re: Phred]
#5674149 - 05/25/06 06:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'd love to see a picture of that cone.
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Re: One of life's defining moments [Re: OJK]
#5674179 - 05/25/06 06:45 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: One of life's defining moments [Re: Phred]
#5674245 - 05/25/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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looks like a pile of dog shit to me
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Re: One of life's defining moments [Re: d33p]
#5675230 - 05/25/06 11:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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looks nothing like that, I garentee that you can find another graphic image of an ice cream cone online turn it sideways and claim it is the same symbol. I smell BS
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Re: One of life's defining moments [Re: Phred]
#5676002 - 05/26/06 05:00 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Can somebody translate moron into idiot so I can understand what the @#%@! he is trying to say? Perhaps it is my ignorance of Islam, but I cannot make heads or tails out of the rant. The best I can figure, he is upset because an ice cream cone looked like a religous symbol (or something) and now he wants genocide?
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Re: One of life's defining moments [Re: Seuss]
#5676010 - 05/26/06 05:11 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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That is what I got out of it.
Their is potentialy over a billion of like minded people walking the earth right now.
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Re: One of life's defining moments [Re: gregorio]
#5676164 - 05/26/06 07:35 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Its amazing that the media EVEN CONSIDERS let alone GIVES COVERAGE to stories like this......I mean what if a went to Harper and decried that the Mercedes Benz insignia is a broken cross, And it hurts Christians to look at it? Would I get a spread in their publication?
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Re: One of life's defining moments [Re: Seuss]
#5676166 - 05/26/06 07:36 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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To be more precise, it was not the ice cream cone itself which was the problem, but the protective packaging -- specifically the tear-off disk of paper on top. Many Muslims were convinced the graphic artist Burger King had hired to design the logo deliberately chose to mock Islam by making his stylized representation of a swirl of ice cream resemble the word "Allah" written in Arabic script.
This was featured in the news last year when it first occurred. There was much seething by Muslims as a result, but for a change there were (to the best of my knowledge) no attacks by Muslims resulting in actual deaths.
What I found instructive about this particular recap was not so much that the guy was pissed off -- as I noted already, there was much coverage of pissed off Muslims at the time the story broke -- but that this fellow was SO pissed off he considered it "the defining moment" of his life. Let's just think about that for a while. The defining moment of someone's life. The most significant, life changing event he has experienced to date -- the realization that the design on an ice cream cone package resembles the word "Allah" written in Arabic. An event so moving, so profound, that the guy makes the decision to go jihadi.
Seriously, if a novelist or a movie maker were to include a scene like this in his work, he'd be at the very least laughed at and at the worst raked over the coals for being "islamophobic".
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Re: One of life's defining moments [Re: Phred]
#5677688 - 05/26/06 04:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ah, thanks! With the help of your picture, I understand. What a fruitcake world we live within.
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Re: One of life's defining moments [Re: Phred]
#5679410 - 05/27/06 02:08 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I was thinking of my stomach. I was hungry. I would have loved to eat an ice cream. When I saw it, my mouth fell open. I dropped the ice cream. I canceled my order. That was the defining moment of my life.
We showed this to Muslim customers in Burger King and they were disgusted. We went to the manager. “Is this true?” we asked. He said, “Yes, my brother. It is true.”
So the manager of the Burger King said "Yes brother it is true"? So the manager was a muslim too? A muslim manager serving pork at Burger King?
Does that strike anyone else as a little suspicious?
You just can't make stuff like this up.
I wonder...
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Re: One of life's defining moments [Re: Phred]
#5679440 - 05/27/06 02:28 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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What I found instructive about this particular recap was not so much that the guy was pissed off -- as I noted already, there was much coverage of pissed off Muslims at the time the story broke -- but that this fellow was SO pissed off he considered it "the defining moment" of his life. Let's just think about that for a while. The defining moment of someone's life. The most significant, life changing event he has experienced to date -- the realization that the design on an ice cream cone package resembles the word "Allah" written in Arabic. An event so moving, so profound, that the guy makes the decision to go jihadi.
I agree it is strange. Until you consider the possibility that it's an urban legend. Then it all makes perfect sense.
It's even stranger that such a devout muslim (not to mention the other two "muslims" he conveniently found - presumably they were just eating ice cream too? And lets not forget the muslim manager either..) is sat in Burger King, not exactly renowned for it's halal practises
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