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 alphatrion
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 Re: The Christ Conspiracy  [Re: Anonymous]
#568301 - 03/03/02 03:45 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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> i can have religious and socially experiences without christianity
i don't remember saying you cannot have them without christianity. i meant that there is more to christianity than facts.
> but christianity itself is just a little out of wack
For you. Not for me or for other people who enter into christianity. Maybe you can say it doesn't quite fit into the zeitgeist.. but even if that is so people can have a grounded christian experience that is very real and related to this world.
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Re: The Christ Conspiracy [Re: alphatrion]
#568308 - 03/03/02 03:58 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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i wasn't really trying to rip apart your words but i guess that's what i did.
i'm still going to stand on that out of wack statement... and i wasn't refering to christians, i was refering to the religion itself. (in my own perspective of course)
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ArCh_TemPlaR
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Re: The Christ Conspiracy [Re: Swami]
#568338 - 03/03/02 05:00 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yo Swami, you want to stir the pot, I suggest you take this to forums.anandtech.com and watch the fireworks begin! :P
BTW - that name sounds familar. I've read bits of this similar to what you said. After checking the link, it is the same author I came across.
Evidence is such an elusive commodity, yet is so valued as if one's life depended on it <-- .
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Re: The Christ Conspiracy [Re: Swami]
#568535 - 03/03/02 11:10 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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jesus contacted me last night while i was praying, and informed me that he never existed
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Swami
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Re: The Christ Conspiracy [Re: alphatrion]
#568675 - 03/03/02 01:55 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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There is more to Christ and christianity than historical evidence: its a religious and social experience.
Are you saying that is irrelevant whether or not Christ really lived?
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Swami
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Re: The Christ Conspiracy [Re: ArCh_TemPlaR]
#568685 - 03/03/02 02:10 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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Arch, what makes you think I want to stir the pot?
Can't we all just get along...?
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ArCh_TemPlaR
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Re: The Christ Conspiracy [Re: Swami]
#569030 - 03/03/02 09:13 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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that was double-edged humor in my "fireworks" comment. The "can't we all get along" intention usually goes down the crapper. no fault of the starter, just the unpredictable nature of religious people's reactions. A book *refuting* a 2500+ religion is going to "stir the pot.
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alphatrion
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Re: The Christ Conspiracy [Re: Swami]
#569256 - 03/04/02 02:15 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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>> There is more to Christ and christianity than historical
>> evidence: its a religious and social experience.
> Are you saying that is irrelevant whether or not
> Christ really lived?
No, I am NOT saying that, what exactly do you not understand in my reply that there is more to Christianity than facts?
But since you brought it up i can give you a personal answer - for me the historical evidence of christ is irrelevant - this doesn't block me from entering the christian worldview. Its like reading a book or entering a story.
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Re: The Christ Conspiracy [Re: Swami]
#569583 - 03/04/02 12:14 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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Damn you Swami, now you're making it so the faithful actually have to investigate something
before parrotting it. What's next, are you going to trick them into analyzing it too?
All of you reading this, stop before it's too late. Don't eat the fruit from the tree of knowledge.
You'll be cast out of the garden!
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Swami
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Re: The Christ Conspiracy [Re: ]
#569763 - 03/04/02 04:19 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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Damn you Swami...
Ah, the irony of it all. To "damn" means to wish one sent to hell for all of eternity. Of course, if one doesn't believe in hell...
Don't eat the fruit from the tree of knowledge.
There is some strong arguments put out in the last few decades that the fruit was actually a mushroom and not an apple.
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Lallafa
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Re: The Christ Conspiracy [Re: Swami]
#569770 - 03/04/02 04:35 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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its laughable to think that a human made a choice to give all men intelligence
especially if that choice was eating a fruit or a drug
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Re: The Christ Conspiracy [Re: Lallafa]
#569815 - 03/04/02 06:08 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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That fellow, the "Light Bearer" was the one that talked the human into it. Which makes me think that
there's a strange coincidence regarding his name and that other mythological character, "Prometheus."
Both of them help to bring enlightenment to mankind and both suffer the wrath of the higher powers...
Edited by evolving (03/04/02 07:24 PM)
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Swami
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Re: The Christ Conspiracy [Re: ]
#569868 - 03/04/02 07:03 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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That fellow, the "Light Bearer" was the one that talked the human into it.
Not really, this is just the first recorded instance of blaming someone else.
To any parents here, if your 8 year-old son says that his invisible friend made him shop-lift that candy bar, are you going to swallow that? Not likely. But millions buy into the "devil-made-me-do-it" escape from responsibility.
Both of them help to bring enlightenment to mankind and both suffer the wrath of the higher powers...
All higher powers, earth-bound or not, love ignorance in those below them.
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