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Moon Cactus question
    #5671648 - 05/25/06 05:46 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

so you all know those horrid little moon cacti they sell everywhere. well i think they are quite ugly but my girlfriend loves the top. i figure i can take advantage of this to practice my grafting skills.

would it be possible to remove the ugly little red thing and plant it on its own and reuse the stalk? G. mihanovichii var hibotan doesnt produce any chlorophyll so im guessing if i remove it from the stalk cleanly it will not be able to sustain itself but i could leave some stalk and treat it as a cutting right? is the Hylocereus stalk even worth reusing? they seem kind of wimpy, but i'd hate to have to torture a bunch of m. geometrizans

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Re: Moon Cactus question [Re: waixingren]
    #5671733 - 05/25/06 06:49 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You might be able to get the top portion to root... but it would die no matter what unless it was grafted onto something.

You see, the colored cactus has no chlorophyll, that's why it isn't green. It is unable to photosynthesize, and thus needs to be grafted onto a cactus that can provide nutrition via it's own photosynthesis.

I have a little red moon cactus in my back yard. I think it's a neat kind of cactus.


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Re: Moon Cactus question [Re: Konnrade]
    #5671946 - 05/25/06 08:51 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

So how does that red cactus thing survive in nature? Does it graft itself on top of other cacti?
Or is it bred to be red?


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Re: Moon Cactus question [Re: cybrbeast]
    #5672068 - 05/25/06 09:47 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It doesn't survive in nature, it was bred to be that way. Must have been a pain in the ass, too.


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Re: Moon Cactus question [Re: Konnrade]
    #5672185 - 05/25/06 10:25 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

No, I think it is just a rare natural occurence, less rare in these cacti, that a seedling is "born" without clorophyll. In the wild, these would perish after a few days or weeks. But in a controlled environment, in which thousands of seeds are germinated, a small percentage of colored mutants are found and grafted as soon as possible.
I think it should be possible to cut it off the host with maybe an inch of the host cactus remaining, but the only way to find out is to do it. These cacti are everywhere (from Lowe's to the Dollar Stores) so sacrificing a few for the sake of knowledge is a fair price, I would say. I would like to try and graft a couple red pups onto some Pereskiopsis, just for the practice.


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Re: Moon Cactus question [Re: Konnrade]
    #5672351 - 05/25/06 11:11 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Konnrade said:

You see, the colored cactus has no chlorophyll, that's why it isn't green. It is unable to photosynthesize, and thus needs to be grafted onto a cactus that can provide nutrition via it's own photosynthesis.





im thinking you didnt read my second paragraph,
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G. mihanovichii var hibotan doesnt produce any chlorophyll so im guessing if i remove it from the stalk cleanly it will not be able to sustain itself




so i guess i'll just buy a couple and try it out, wont hurt.


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Re: Moon Cactus question [Re: waixingren]
    #5673946 - 05/25/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

this post makes no sense

why would you buy a grafted plant just for the stock, wouldn't that be more expensive than buying the stock on its own?


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Re: Moon Cactus question [Re: faslimy]
    #5674057 - 05/25/06 06:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

the point was to keep both the stock and the original graft. my gf likes the hibotan graft, and i could practice grafting on the stalk.


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Re: Moon Cactus question [Re: waixingren]
    #5674069 - 05/25/06 06:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

wtf lol


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Re: Moon Cactus question [Re: waixingren]
    #5677352 - 05/26/06 02:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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waixingren said:
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Konnrade said:

You see, the colored cactus has no chlorophyll, that's why it isn't green. It is unable to photosynthesize, and thus needs to be grafted onto a cactus that can provide nutrition via it's own photosynthesis.





im thinking you didnt read my second paragraph,
Quote:

G. mihanovichii var hibotan doesnt produce any chlorophyll so im guessing if i remove it from the stalk cleanly it will not be able to sustain itself




so i guess i'll just buy a couple and try it out, wont hurt.




Oops! looks like I did miss that part. My apologies, I was just skimming instead of reading thoroughly.


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