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OfflineVicodinHP
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Salvia vs DMT
    #5670496 - 05/24/06 09:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Now people say that on DMT words cant describe the effects, well I been hearing the same about salvia and I know from experience. So does DMT shit on salvia when it comes to the overall trip?


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Re: Salvia vs DMT [Re: VicodinHP]
    #5670884 - 05/24/06 11:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

in my opinion....

yes...yes it does


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Re: Salvia vs DMT [Re: Help on the Way]
    #5672861 - 05/25/06 12:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Both needs much respect but yes, the spice intensity is 1000x fold.


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Re: Salvia vs DMT [Re: kija]
    #5672906 - 05/25/06 12:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Ive never done DMT but Ive done 20x Salvia and it was pretty Intense!

I took 2 big hits and bout 10 sec later i didint even know where the fuk i was or even know that i just smoked salvia. I could explain anything i looked at and everything felt like it was turning like pages. And my mind would finnaly find itself again but then get smacked out of place again. Light got really bright and sounds sounded echoey and wierd. I felt as if there were millions of people behind me and i felt very heavy. It is something i never even thought of happening and the feeling is like no other. Would i do it again? HELL YEA! lol


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Re: Salvia vs DMT [Re: mike225]
    #5673092 - 05/25/06 01:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

DMT drops a giant log squarely on Salvia's chest.


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Re: Salvia vs DMT [Re: JeffersonDarcy] * 1
    #5673187 - 05/25/06 01:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Salvia shakes this world up, DMT sends you to another one..


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Re: Salvia vs DMT [Re: j_db69]
    #5673294 - 05/25/06 02:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

DMT is a real trip as salvia is disortion


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Re: Salvia vs DMT [Re: VicodinHP]
    #5674874 - 05/25/06 10:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Been cultivating (and smoking) Salvia for over five years, only been a dynamite smoker for a year in November, but in my opinion the message of Salvia sticks around for a bit more.  These are for me about learning and healing.  I like to watch a plant grow and meditate with her. Now the overall trip as you ask, with d i'm content to experience a different zone with amnesia, but with Sally I really feel that something has changed for a bit.  You'll notice a lot of long-term d smokers feel that ayahuasca is more appropriate, I don't want to lose the magic (of smoking) too fast.  Theres a good post on bluelight on what can be gleamed from smoking d, if anyones familiar?  I don't always speak with Sally 'to trip' but rather to calm myself down and do a little internal maintenance, this tune-up just seems more sustainable.

My .o2  :stoned:


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Re: Salvia vs DMT [Re: schmutzen]
    #5675231 - 05/25/06 11:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

namaste said:
Been cultivating (and smoking) Salvia for over five years, only been a dynamite smoker for a year in November, but in my opinion the message of Salvia sticks around for a bit more.  These are for me about learning and healing.  I like to watch a plant grow and meditate with her. Now the overall trip as you ask, with d i'm content to experience a different zone with amnesia, but with Sally I really feel that something has changed for a bit.  You'll notice a lot of long-term d smokers feel that ayahuasca is more appropriate, I don't want to lose the magic (of smoking) too fast.  Theres a good post on bluelight on what can be gleamed from smoking d, if anyones familiar?  I don't always speak with Sally 'to trip' but rather to calm myself down and do a little internal maintenance, this tune-up just seems more sustainable.

My .o2  :stoned:




salvia has been more beneficial for me than any other substance, as far as long-term effects goes. i prefer a subtle experience if smoked.. otherwise an oral preparation is the way to go, tincture/blotter.


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Re: Salvia vs DMT [Re: thedudenj]
    #5675299 - 05/26/06 12:03 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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thedudenj said:
DMT is a real trip as salvia is disortion





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Salvia shakes this world up, DMT sends you to another one..





I agree with these two guys. Also Salvia is more of a cloudly/dreamy mindfuck where DMT is more of a very visual trip to other world.


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Re: Salvia vs DMT [Re: d33p]
    #5675369 - 05/26/06 12:21 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

DMT: A 4-Dimensional cyber disco (in space) of color and sensation.

Salvia: Like having crazed hallucinations while running a high fever. Not to bash it, those can be good, and nice to not risk your health to achieve them.


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Re: Salvia vs DMT [Re: VicodinHP]
    #5675630 - 05/26/06 01:10 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

DMT beats the dogshit out of salvia. I really don't like salvia. While the experience is very intense, the quality of the experience feels like what you would expect to feel if a witch gave you a potion and started cackling. DMT feels like a true shaman's tool.

Strangely enough though, I have tried both 5-Meo-DMT and salvia at the same time (Meo sprinkled on some extract); and somehow, they synergize magnificently. It's like the Meo counteracts all of the unpleasant effects (mental and physical) of the salvia, and the salvia draws out the experience of the Meo into another dimension. Instant ego loss at high doses--for me, at least. I would assume that straight DMT would have a similar effect if combined with salvia.


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Re: Salvia vs DMT [Re: Land_Crab]
    #5676205 - 05/26/06 08:01 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

wow good idea i was gona bring up 5-Meo-DMT i want to mix em now


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Re: Salvia vs DMT [Re: VicodinHP]
    #5676306 - 05/26/06 08:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Would love to try DMT. Did salvia for the first time about three weeks ago with a normal lighter. It knocked me on my ass for a minute or two, felt like my body was being ripped apart. Had some weird sensory distortions, everything i touched felt wet. Gonna be doing 20x this weekend with a torch lighter, cant wait!


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Re: Salvia vs DMT [Re: Unifloo]
    #5676570 - 05/26/06 10:36 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i smoked regular salvia leaves in a 2 liter soda bottle once and it hit me harder then 5x extract


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Re: Salvia vs DMT [Re: Unifloo]
    #5676578 - 05/26/06 10:38 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Pretty much what everyone is saying, however they are so very different that drawing a comparison is differnt. Salvia is just nooo way as amazing interesting colourful insane as dmt. But salvia does have this random factor about it, but stil id rather smoke dimitri than have to go into the salvia void:S


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Re: Salvia vs DMT [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5676639 - 05/26/06 10:55 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

koalia....

DMT: A 4-Dimensional cyber disco (in space) of color and sensation.

Salvia: Like having crazed hallucinations while running a high fever. Not to bash it, those can be good, and nice to not risk your health to achieve them.


you say smoking salvia doesnt risk your health... im going to assume you mean smoking DMT will risk your health?

can you elaborate a bit more please?


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Edited by agoutihead (05/26/06 10:56 AM)


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Re: Salvia vs DMT [Re: Land_Crab]
    #5676678 - 05/26/06 11:05 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Land_Crab said:
I really don't like salvia. While the experience is very intense, the quality of the experience feels like what you would expect to feel if a witch gave you a potion and started cackling.





hahahahah that is so true


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    #5676815 - 05/26/06 11:42 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Salvia vs DMT [Re: soulcircus]
    #5677518 - 05/26/06 03:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I've smoked DMT and 10x Salvia extract simultaneously, and the experience was much like what Land Crab said about 5-MeO-DMT and Salvia. They synergize magnificiently, and DMT takes alot of the fear out of the Salvia experience. Entity contact is certainly a possibility.


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