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Legalize247
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How do I get the biggest pinset possible?
#5670363 - 05/24/06 09:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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How do i get a pinset that is even and abundant. My tray is bulk neglect and is completely colonized. the tray is 2.2sqft -6inches deep made up of 75%straw 25% dung. I cased with 75%coir 25% vermiculite, oyster shells, and a dash of lime. I am curios if I should just let the whole thing overlay and then show light. I have a clear trashbag with holes sitting over the bin. I'm wondering how to get the biggest pinset possible.
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hyphae
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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: Legalize247]
#5670395 - 05/24/06 09:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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First off switch your casing ratio around or use a peat based casing mix that will help tremendously, secondly read my pinning strategy that will give you your biggest bang for your buck (optimize parameters!). GL
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is Gas Exchange vs. FAE "We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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Civ
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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: Legalize247]
#5670423 - 05/24/06 09:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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am curios if I should just let the whole thing overlay and then show light.
Don't let it overlay, even though its neglect- if you want the most outa it that is. If your doing 2.2sqft then I would patch the first few signs of myc until it is evenly breeching your caseing layer. You should'nt have to patch for more than a few days. Then expose to a light cycle and some O2 and that should help maximize your pinset. (as much as verm/coir can really do) I have found that my 2nd flushes from my single tub neglects come out more vibrant and full than the first flush I get.
-------------------- "...Gal's seem to hate the thought of blending chicken shit in a blender. So, wash it well afterwards & DON'T tell them..." -Agar
Edited by Civ (05/24/06 09:44 PM)
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Legalize247
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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: hyphae]
#5670425 - 05/24/06 09:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks hyphea. I already cased earlier today. Its basically 50/50+ but Im using coir instead of peat. Ill have to try peat sometime.
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HippieChick
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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: hyphae]
#5670430 - 05/24/06 09:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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^^^^^ ^^^^
I did BOTH , lol. And now this is the norm . 

Peace,Love,Happiness and Harmony Hippie Chick
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hyphae
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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: Legalize247]
#5670466 - 05/24/06 09:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Legalize247 said: Thanks hyphea. I already cased earlier today. Its basically 50/50+ but Im using coir instead of peat. Ill have to try peat sometime.
50/50+ is a peat based formula FYI. If using coir then try 60/40 or better yet 70/30 verm/coir. HC thats the forth bestest grow I've seen maybe even third but I'm a little bias when it comes personal grows hehe
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is Gas Exchange vs. FAE "We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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Legalize247
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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: hyphae]
#5670475 - 05/24/06 09:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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HippieChick how many trays is that?
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Jack_Straw
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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: Legalize247]
#5670520 - 05/24/06 10:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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looks like 4 to me.
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HippieChick
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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: Jack_Straw]
#5670562 - 05/24/06 10:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yup . Four . 
Peace,Love,Happiness and Harmony Hippie Chick
-------------------- Peace,Love and Happiness HC Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose.............. I LUV My Greenhouse http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5545848#5545848 My First Pans http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6212058#6212058
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scatmanrav
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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: HippieChick]
#5670663 - 05/24/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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FRESH AIR IS KEY!!!
Hippiechick, Hyphae and others will agree..this is a big big big thing for pinset is fresh air exchanges. Peat based casings are also a big help. And good light when the time is right.
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HippieChick
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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: scatmanrav]
#5670675 - 05/24/06 10:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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scatmanrav said: FRESH AIR IS KEY!!!
Hippiechick, Hyphae and others will agree..this is a big big big thing for pinset is fresh air exchanges. Peat based casings are also a big help. And good light when the time is right.
Exactly 
Helps keep contams at bay also .
Peace,Love,Happiness and Harmony Hippie Chick
-------------------- Peace,Love and Happiness HC Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose.............. I LUV My Greenhouse http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5545848#5545848 My First Pans http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6212058#6212058
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iamyour_messiah
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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: HippieChick]
#5676368 - 05/26/06 09:11 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Holy crap are those shrooms holding up a carton of eggs...with eggs in it!?! I had no idea they were so durable/resilient. I guess theres a shitload of them which helps as well with the support, but nonetheless. I figured you would crush shrooms by placing a carton of eggs on them.
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Legalize247
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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: iamyour_messiah]
#5677546 - 05/26/06 03:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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My tray is in the outdoor closet, So it has fresh air from outside. I grow it out their on purpose. I have noticed that fresh air means no contams for me. I had been having problems indoor with green after two flushes or so. Now outside I never see any contams. Trays can flush all the way till their dead. How the hell did you manage to get a flush like that scatmanrov. Its amazzzing.....Im in awwe.
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Edited by Legalize247 (05/26/06 03:57 PM)
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hyphae
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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: Legalize247]
#5677637 - 05/26/06 04:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Legalize247 said: My tray is in the outdoor closet, So it has fresh air from outside. I grow it out their on purpose. I have noticed that fresh air means no contams for me. I had been having problems indoor with green after two flushes or so. Now outside I never see any contams. Trays can flush all the way till their dead. How the hell did you manage to get a flush like that scatmanrov. Its amazzzing.....Im in awwe.
He paid attention in class and retained what he had learned.
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is Gas Exchange vs. FAE "We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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Legalize247
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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: iamyour_messiah]
#5677685 - 05/26/06 04:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hippiechick I must compliment you on that amazing grow
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dudefromaz
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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: Legalize247]
#5677763 - 05/26/06 05:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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hyphae, HC, and scatmanrav, you guys are crazy wicked tight good growers.... SOmeday, I want to be just like your.....maby
-------------------- Remember, the best drug, is a natural drug..... Peace, Fratirnityishly, Smoke Da Stuff, Special Chocolate
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