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OfflineLegalize247
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How do I get the biggest pinset possible?
    #5670363 - 05/24/06 09:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

How do i get a pinset that is even and abundant. My tray is bulk neglect and is completely colonized. the tray is 2.2sqft -6inches deep made up of 75%straw 25% dung. I cased with 75%coir 25% vermiculite, oyster shells, and a dash of lime. I am curios if I should just let the whole thing overlay and then show light. I have a clear trashbag with holes sitting over the bin. I'm wondering how to get the biggest pinset possible.


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Offlinehyphae
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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: Legalize247]
    #5670395 - 05/24/06 09:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

First off switch your casing ratio around or use a peat based casing mix that will help tremendously, secondly read my pinning strategy that will give you your biggest bang for your buck (optimize parameters!). GL


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Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal :wink:
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE

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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: Legalize247]
    #5670423 - 05/24/06 09:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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am curios if I should just let the whole thing overlay and then show light.





Don't let it overlay, even though its neglect- if you want the most outa it that is. If your doing 2.2sqft then I would patch the first few signs of myc until it is evenly breeching your caseing layer. You should'nt have to patch for more than a few days. Then expose to a light cycle and some O2 and that should help maximize your pinset. (as much as verm/coir can really do) I have found that my 2nd flushes from my single tub neglects come out more vibrant and full than the first flush I get.


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So, wash it well afterwards & DON'T tell them..."  -Agar


Edited by Civ (05/24/06 09:44 PM)


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OfflineLegalize247
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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: hyphae]
    #5670425 - 05/24/06 09:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks hyphea. I already cased earlier today. Its basically 50/50+ but Im using coir instead of peat. Ill have to try peat sometime.


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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: hyphae]
    #5670430 - 05/24/06 09:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

^^^^^ :thumbup:^^^^

I did BOTH , lol. And now this is the norm . :grin:



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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: Legalize247]
    #5670466 - 05/24/06 09:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Legalize247 said:
Thanks hyphea. I already cased earlier today. Its basically 50/50+ but Im using coir instead of peat. Ill have to try peat sometime.



50/50+ is a peat based formula FYI. If using coir then try 60/40 or better yet 70/30 verm/coir.
HC thats the forth bestest grow I've seen maybe even third but I'm a little bias when it comes personal grows :wink: hehe :thumbup: :thumbup:


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Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal :wink:
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE

"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"


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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: hyphae]
    #5670475 - 05/24/06 09:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

HippieChick how many trays is that?


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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: Legalize247]
    #5670520 - 05/24/06 10:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

looks like 4 to me.


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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: Jack_Straw]
    #5670562 - 05/24/06 10:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yup . Four . :grin:

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Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose..............

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My First Pans
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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: HippieChick]
    #5670663 - 05/24/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

FRESH AIR IS KEY!!!

Hippiechick, Hyphae and others will agree..this is a big big big thing for pinset is fresh air exchanges. Peat based casings are also a big help. And good light when the time is right.



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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #5670675 - 05/24/06 10:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

scatmanrav said:
FRESH AIR IS KEY!!!

Hippiechick, Hyphae and others will agree..this is a big big big thing for pinset is fresh air exchanges. Peat based casings are also a big help. And good light when the time is right.







Exactly :thumbup:

Helps keep contams at bay also .

Peace,Love,Happiness and Harmony
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:heart: HC :mushroom2:

Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose..............

I LUV My Greenhouse
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5545848#5545848

My First Pans
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6212058#6212058


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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: HippieChick]
    #5676368 - 05/26/06 09:11 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Holy crap are those shrooms holding up a carton of eggs...with eggs in it!?! I had no idea they were so durable/resilient. I guess theres a shitload of them which helps as well with the support, but nonetheless. I figured you would crush shrooms by placing a carton of eggs on them.


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OfflineLegalize247
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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: iamyour_messiah]
    #5677546 - 05/26/06 03:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

My tray is in the outdoor closet, So it has fresh air from outside. I grow it out their on purpose. I have noticed that fresh air means no contams for me. I had been having problems indoor with green after two flushes or so. Now outside I never see any contams. Trays can flush all the way till their dead. How the hell did you manage to get a flush like that scatmanrov. Its amazzzing.....Im in awwe.


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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: Legalize247]
    #5677637 - 05/26/06 04:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Legalize247 said:
My tray is in the outdoor closet, So it has fresh air from outside. I grow it out their on purpose. I have noticed that fresh air means no contams for me. I had been having problems indoor with green after two flushes or so. Now outside I never see any contams. Trays can flush all the way till their dead. How the hell did you manage to get a flush like that scatmanrov. Its amazzzing.....Im in awwe.



He paid attention in class and retained what he had learned.



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Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal :wink:
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE

"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"


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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: iamyour_messiah]
    #5677685 - 05/26/06 04:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Hippiechick I must compliment you on that amazing grow


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Re: How do I get the biggest pinset possible? [Re: Legalize247]
    #5677763 - 05/26/06 05:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

hyphae, HC, and scatmanrav, you guys are crazy wicked tight good growers.... SOmeday, I want to be just like your.....maby


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