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Israelis going to house to house
#566663 - 03/01/02 08:36 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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in Palestinian neighborhoods searching for terrorists. Avoiding alleys by busting through walls to enter neighboring houses. This was from an AP report. There has been no criticism by the US gov except for Powell saying, "tread lightly" or something. House by house searches by one of our closest allies. Coming soon to a US ghetto near you.
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IDF shows mercy to families of terrorists... [Re: PGF]
#566836 - 03/01/02 11:44 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's hard to criticize this sort of thing. The Israeli's are in a fight for theeir very existance. They have been restrained in how they deal with the islamic terror groups. I think they should blow up Yasser Arafat and bulldoze the palistinian area... And then force all the Philistines in to exile in Saudi Arabia....
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Post deleted by Moe Howard [Re: Ellis Dee]
#566891 - 03/01/02 12:21 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: IDF shows mercy to families of terrorists... [Re: Anonymous]
#566931 - 03/01/02 01:16 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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How am a hypocrite? What to I preach against that I do? Did you see my post about how the SWAT team raided me? Is this what this is about. The cops woke me up out of my bed, pointed guns at me, andcuffed me, threw me down, and searched my house without a warrent. It was terrible. I almost peed my pants I was so scarred. But the Palistinians actually go out and kill Israeli civilians for fun. The IDF is raiding the homes of terrorists, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Fatah, etcetera. These people are so brave that they can blow of pizza shops full of women and children, or shoot up a barmitzva full of party goers. These are not legitamate fighters, they view a bus full of little kids as the same kind of target as a military instalation. If they had the guts they say they do they would fight the IDF instead of innocent people. I don't care if someone is of a different nationality as long as they are nice and want to be friends with me. One of my best friends is a Lebanese immigrant. He is also one of the nicest and kindest people I know and I am lucky to be able to call him my friend. He's also a gun owner but not an NRA member. The NRA does not discriminate against Arabians or Lebabese people. We are an equal opportuity pro 2nd amendment group. I'm sure there are even some gay and lesbian black and Jewish NRA members, actually I know there are. And good because we need support from al segments of America, not just middle class honkies like me. Take care
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Re: Israelis going to house to house [Re: PGF]
#567295 - 03/01/02 09:32 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Driving through the refugee camps with tanks and bulldozers. They showed the West Bank morgue place where they have all of the dead on shelves. Nineteen or something dead so far. A seven year old boy, some other kids. They had helicopters flying over. The helicopter gunships with the missiles. I just don't understand it. I don't. Are they thinking they can kill every Palestinian who might pick up a gun against the country that he is at war with? Every single Palestinian male who hates the fact that the state of Israel exists. That sounds pretty stupid to me. Are they trying to scare them? Deter them? It's hard to scare people who are willing to blow themselves up. Stupid.
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Re: IDF shows mercy to families of terrorists... [Re: Ellis Dee]
#567312 - 03/01/02 09:59 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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RG, there are americans who want to blow up our own government, but that does not give our gov the right to go house to house searching, killing, and just be dicks. I guarantee you there are factions in our own gov that are watching Israel close for tips for when the time comes to supress large portions of our own population with force. BV, it's ludicrous. The more they fuck with them, the more Palestinians will hate them. one day the tables will turn....they always do.
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America=Isreal [Re: PGF]
#568762 - 03/03/02 03:35 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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dont know how many of you americans realise this but most arabs/muslims equate america to isreal. Thus, if isrealis kill a boy in the arms of his father, then america is guilty of this as well. The reason for this is that isreal would be unable tto survive without american military and financial assistance. Thus, the Isrealis can behave in this way beacuse america permits (encourages) them to. In addition, isreal would never have come into existance in 1948 if America had not forced britiain to suspend all arms sale to all arab countries in that year. Anyone wondering why a bunch of arabs flew those planes into the wtc? now you know. What does IDF stand for anyway? Isreali Demolition Force? PS dont flame me for saying what Im saying here, its what the global muslim community really thinks.
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Re: IDF shows mercy to families of terrorists... [Re: Ellis Dee]
#568907 - 03/03/02 06:12 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok guys look. There's some things we need to keep in mind here, at least so I think: 1. Israel didn't just show up there. When Israel fought their war of independence in the 40s, that prick Sharon and plenty of other people with mindsets similar to the nazis went in and killed quite alot of arab and palestinian people. They killed no matter the age or anything, they wanted their damn land and they got it. Now, fine, good for them. But they're not saints and never have been. Can anyone seriously name a country that came into being without a shitload of violence and bloodshed? It can't be denied. There is no such thing as morals or virtue, just kill or be killed, and when the Israelis fought, they did not fight with the least with of moral restraint. Therefore, fuck em. They're now getting what they deserve just like everyone else will some day. 2. Theres is a distinct difference between the IDF and the PLA. Or, even better, fuck the PLA too. They screw their own people over all the time, and the palestinain people know this as well. Which is why when Arafat says "please stop suicide bombings" the people flip him the bird. He's old and hes sold out to Israel way more than Israel has returned to the Palestinians. The IDF has a modern military paid for by well, me and the rest of America. Israel would not exist at its current level if we didn't foot the bill. But my point is, the IDF is fucking loaded. When they want to kill someone, they use tanks and helicopters, snipers (like all cowards, they shoot fucking children all the time quite purposefully), and the latest in intellligence gathering. The palestinians use rocks or when really desperate, they blow themselves up. (remember david/goliath?) Theres a distinct difference. The IDF knows exactly what they are doing. They are an organized military force that outnumber and outgun the entire palestian people. The actions of the palestinians are the actions of a broken, beaken, and fucked people doing whatever they can to eat and stay alive. The fat, rich, and well of israelis (relative to almost all of the world) bulldoze down the houses of innocents, and regularly cheat, lie, and steal from the palestinians. They walk into REFUGEE camps and just run over whoever is in their way. They use their aircraft to bomb U.N. sponsored refugee camps and engage in across-border attacks on a daily basis. Its well documented and quite irrefutable. Read what the UN says about the issue and some foreign press. In other words, they're hardly saints. They've got plenty of blood on their hands too you know. 3. There is a systematic use of the palestians by the israelis as cheap labor force...it is likely that were palestinians to be paid a decent wage their entire israeli economy would collapse. The ruling political parties keep the people down, repressed and terrorize the populace so they shut up. (Gaza strip is most highly packed place on the earth, btw) How is it that our prograganda system is so good that the rich and powerful are always seen as the saviours and the rock throwing peasants as the troublemakers? Didn't you kids hear the tale "David and Goliath?" Geez.
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Re: IDF shows mercy to families of terrorists... [Re: sparafucile]
#569636 - 03/04/02 01:24 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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To paraquote someone famous: "The Isrealis and the Arabs are both a bunch of fucking lunatics and they deserve each other absolutely" Unfortunately the rest of us dont.
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Re: IDF shows mercy to families of terrorists... [Re: madscientist]
#569639 - 03/04/02 01:27 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am sure you would be a 'fucking lunatic' too if you were in either of their positions. Maybe you grew up in a refugee camp and had your father and younger brother shot by Israelis troops for no reason, or had to walk to your local Synagogue in fear of getting blown up by a mad arab like your best friend did.
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