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Tyvek sux (maybe)
    #5665750 - 05/23/06 05:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well My B+ jars took over 3-4 weeks to colonise my rye. Wich is just a small quart jar size. But I spawn to poo and in 24 hours the rye that just had only a little bit of white on it once it was broken up and put in the poo the barely colonised peaces on top explode and in 24 each peace that had spek of white on it is a big ball of white now. It can only be the fresh air that It got in the spawn. What do you think. Tyvek doesnt let enough fresh air in?


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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: mikeownow]
    #5665997 - 05/23/06 06:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Tyvek allows plenty of gas exchange. Something else is/was wrong.
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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5666085 - 05/23/06 07:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Tyvek allows plenty of gas exchange. Something else is/was wrong.
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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: CantiSama]
    #5666092 - 05/23/06 07:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I am prety sure my water content was perfect. I did what RR told me to do. Soak 24 hours and simmer for 5 minutes then strain and flop around bot the water was not evaporating fast enough So I moved it around on a towel to get the excess moisture off jared pced.


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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: mikeownow]
    #5666102 - 05/23/06 07:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

if you get the tyvek wet does this mess it up maybe, i only ask this because one of mine got wet one time and it wasnt doing enough AE, so it seemed to me. i punched a couple of holes in it and it started to grow agn.


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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: kilroy]
    #5666143 - 05/23/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

FYI Tyvek allows no FAE guys only gas exchange, also while colonizing always crack the jars lid loose it really helps trust me!


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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: kilroy]
    #5666146 - 05/23/06 07:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

water has little affect on tyvek, punching the holes may have been a bad idea


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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5666156 - 05/23/06 07:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Ive never used it, just polyfil. I use 2 types of jars, depending on the grain...



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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: kilroy]
    #5666198 - 05/23/06 07:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Tyvek doesn't breathe as well as cotton or polyfil. If the only opening is tightly covered with tyvek, then the FAE is going to be small. If the entire top of the jar is covered in tyvek, and the opening in the metal/plastic lid is 1/4" or greater, then the air exchange will be fine, since the small hole is breathing through a large surface area of tyvek, assuming they aren't tightly taped together.

Tyvek doesn't want to stay wet, because contams can wick their way through it. But, an occasional wetting shouldn't be a problem. Tyvek isn't the ultimate filter, it's just an effective and cheap filter, if given enough surface area. It will block contams if kept dry, and it will breathe fine if given enough surface area.


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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: mogur]
    #5666225 - 05/23/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

or your jars are dry. You can tell if their dry by shaking the jars. If the grain pings off the glass then they are dry. Ive had some trouble with dry jars with some of those jar teks before.


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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: Legalize247]
    #5666247 - 05/23/06 08:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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or your jars are dry. You can tell if their dry by shaking the jars. If the grain pings off the glass then they are dry. Ive had some trouble with dry jars with some of those jar teks before.




They stick to the sides.


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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: mikeownow]
    #5666322 - 05/23/06 08:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I can't even find Tyvek.. Where do I get it?


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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: hoboblues]
    #5666324 - 05/23/06 08:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The post office.


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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: mogur]
    #5666650 - 05/23/06 09:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Tyvek doesn't breathe as well as cotton or polyfil. If the only opening is tightly covered with tyvek, then the FAE is going to be small. If the entire top of the jar is covered in tyvek, and the opening in the metal/plastic lid is 1/4" or greater, then the air exchange will be fine, since the small hole is breathing through a large surface area of tyvek, assuming they aren't tightly taped together.

Tyvek doesn't want to stay wet, because contams can wick their way through it. But, an occasional wetting shouldn't be a problem. Tyvek isn't the ultimate filter, it's just an effective and cheap filter, if given enough surface area. It will block contams if kept dry, and it will breathe fine if given enough surface area.



One thing really caught my attention here mugor was the use of the word cotton this is a nono here! Except for womens panties of course.


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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: hyphae]
    #5674525 - 05/25/06 08:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I only mention cotton cuz I'm a panty sniffer. Or, maybe cuz scientists use it. You choose.


J/k, I choose to use tyvek, and sniff polyfill. Cotton isn't highly regarded on mushroom forums, because it does wick contams when shaken. Most lab work doesn't include shaking. That makes cotton a viable alternative, only for culture work. Sorry, will refrain myself. Floggings on on Friday. Will try to attend. Thanks, Hyphea, it's not a good idea to use cotton in this context.


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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: mogur]
    #5674572 - 05/25/06 08:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I only mention cotton cuz I'm a panty sniffer. Or, maybe cuz scientists use it. You choose.


J/k, I choose to use tyvek, and sniff polyfill. Cotton isn't highly regarded on mushroom forums, because it does wick contams when shaken. Most lab work doesn't include shaking. That makes cotton a viable alternative, only for culture work. Sorry, will refrain myself. Floggings on on Friday. Will try to attend. Thanks, Hyphea, it's not a good idea to use cotton in this context.



Your definitely a panty sniffer bro! LOL (me too). Scientists use it for it's absorbent quality. :wink:


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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: hyphae]
    #5722414 - 06/07/06 10:42 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Does tyvek lock in humidity?


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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: tripz]
    #5722527 - 06/07/06 11:29 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Recently I made some rye grain jars with tyvek and when I shook them right out of the PC I could feel quite a bit of steam coming out of the quarter inch hole under the tyvek. I think this left my jars much to dry. Has anyone else had this problem?


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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: mikeownow]
    #5722912 - 06/07/06 01:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

That was probably just your jars reaching atmoshperic equilibrium


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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: tripz]
    #5722937 - 06/07/06 01:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

prep the jar

Cover with tyvek

Shoot em up and cover the hole

9 days later from multi spore if a jar takes longer then two weeks it gets chucked.

To put this simply nobody here had had slow colonization cause of the tyvek the problem is someplace else.


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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: Magash]
    #5723020 - 06/07/06 02:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Magash, what do you use to cut out tyvek so nicely?


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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: KaptKid]
    #5724627 - 06/07/06 09:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I took a file to a cookie cutter. Took about 20 minutes to make these


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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: Magash]
    #5724956 - 06/07/06 10:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Wholy tyvek batman


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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: mikeownow]
    #5725877 - 06/08/06 06:38 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: pac_man]
    #5726037 - 06/08/06 08:46 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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sorry for asking this perhaps dumb question

but is tyvek the same as the envelopes called tyvek envelopes? are envelopes beeing used as filters?

and what does FAE means?




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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: FooMan]
    #5726123 - 06/08/06 09:35 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i order filter lids for 45$ from a sponsori didtwenty four jars and not one contamed


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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: cyberthreat]
    #5726133 - 06/08/06 09:40 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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i order filter lids for 45$ from a sponsori didtwenty four jars and not one contamed




I've done well over 300 jars with either Tyvek, polfil or both and haven't gotten any contams and paid less then $3 for the polyfil, the Tyvek was free.


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Re: Tyvek sux (maybe) [Re: cyberthreat]
    #5726139 - 06/08/06 09:43 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

BTW cyberthreat, when I clicked the link in your sig, it say "access denied".

But yeah, MycoshackC, MycoshackJ, Civic and God knows who else were all "Mycoshack". Biggest fucking scam to ever hit the Shroomery. :nonono: Look out for sporetomb too. That site is run by the same fuckers.


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