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Re: I Am the Eggman! [Re: Papaver]
#5669356 - 05/24/06 04:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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nice to c u
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Papaver
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Re: I Am the Eggman! [Re: boO]
#5669407 - 05/24/06 04:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nice to see you too! 
What's Mario doing to that poor girl in your avatar?
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Re: Goo Goo Ga Joob! [Re: Papaver]
#5675245 - 05/25/06 11:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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MIKE DAVIS: The problem that military planners, and some geopoliticians, are talking about is actually something quite different: that’s the emergence, in hundreds of both little and major nodes across the world, of essentially autonomous slums governed by ethnic militias, gangs, transnational crime, and so on. This is something the Pentagon is obviously very interested in, and concerned about, with Mogadishu as a kind of prototype example. The ongoing crisis of the Third World city is producing almost feudalized patterns of large slum neighborhoods that are effectively terrorist or criminal mini-states -- rogue micro-sovereignties. That’s the view of the Pentagon and of Pentagon planners. They also seem quite alarmed by the fact that the peri-urban slums -- the slums on the edges of cities -- lack clear hierarchies. Even more difficult, from a planning perspective, there’s very little available data. The slums are kind of off the radar screen. They therefore become the equivalent of rain forest, or jungle: difficult to penetrate, impossible to control. [...] I think there are fairly smart Pentagon thinkers who don’t see this so much as a question of regions, or categories of nation-states, so much as holes, or enclaves within the system. [...] But, sure, this is a serious geopolitical and military problem: if you conduct basically a triage of the world's human population -- where some people are exiled from the world economy, and some spaces no longer have roles -- then you’re offering up ideal opportunities for other people to step in and organize those spaces to their own ends. This is a deeper and more profound situation than any putative conflicts of civilization. It is, in a way, a very unexpected end to the 20th century. Neither classical Marxism, nor any other variety of classical social theory or neoliberal economics, ever predicted that such a large fraction of humanity would live in cities and yet basically outside all the formal institutions of the world economy.*Found Web-Object
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Re: They Are The Eggmen! [Re: Papaver]
#5675292 - 05/26/06 12:00 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nothing could more quickly remind us that we humans are part of nature than a flu pandemic; yet three quite unnatural changes in our world have drastically increased the danger of such a pandemic. A livestock revolution has gathered domestic birds together -- think Tyson chickens -- onto giant corporate farms in prodigious numbers, clustering them into what are essentially giant bird slums, where any new disease is guaranteed to spread more easily. Meanwhile, throughout the third world, impoverished human beings have been gathering in far greater urban concentrations than anything imaginable a century ago, and any of these are potential hatcheries for a pandemic. Finally, globalization and global air travel have made the spread of a pandemic, once started, almost instantaneous. In the meantime, H5N1, spreads by an older set of air paths -- avian migration routes -- having just made it to Russia. And we wait...*Found Web-Object
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Re: Semolina Pilchard Climbing up the Eiffel Tower... [Re: Papaver]
#5675401 - 05/26/06 12:27 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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The dynamics of Third World urbanization both recapitulate and confound the precedents of nineteenth and early twentieth-century Europe and North America. In China the greatest industrial revolution in history is the Archimedean lever shifting a population the size of Europe’s from rural villages to smog-choked sky-climbing cities. As a result, ‘China [will] cease to be the predominantly rural country it has been for millennia.’ Indeed, the great oculus of the Shanghai World Financial Centre may soon look out upon a vast urban world little imagined by Mao or, for that matter, Le Corbusier. But in most of the developing world, city growth lacks China’s powerful manufacturing-export engine as well as its vast inflow of foreign capital (currently equal to half of total foreign investment in the developing world).
Urbanization elsewhere, as a result, has been radically decoupled from industrialization, even from development perse. Some would argue that this is an expression of an inexorable trend: the inherent tendency of silicon capitalism to delink the growth of production from that of employment. But in sub-Saharan Africa, Latin America, the Middle East and parts of Asia, urbanization-without-growth is more obviously the legacy of a global political conjuncture -- the debt crisis of the late 1970s and subsequent imf-led restructuring of Third World economies in the 1980s -- than an iron law of advancing technology. Third World urbanization, moreover, continued its breakneck pace (3.8 per cent per annum from 1960–93) through the locust years of the 1980s and early 1990s in spite of falling real wages, soaring prices and skyrocketing urban unemployment.*Found Web-Object
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Re: The Crack in the Cosmic Egg... [Re: Papaver]
#5711318 - 06/04/06 01:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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So, listen, that taught me a lesson. This is a metaphor. Good. Nobody knows what the hell a metaphor is. All religions are mythological. You see what that means. They don't realize that Yahweh is a metaphor. The terrible thing about Yahweh is, he didn't realize it either! He thought he was the connotation, don't you see? So, when a metaphor is read with reference not to the connotation but to the denotation, it's a lie. Hence atheism.
Meanwhile, the ones who are worshipers of the metaphor don't know what they are doing, so they are missing the message. Do you get what I'm saying? This is really important stuff. I don't know whether its in the N. Y. Times yet but its important.
If you think your metaphor is the connotation then you think the other guys metaphor is a lie. You see what I mean? And here all these people all over the planet talking about the same connotation, sticking to their metaphors and we're having trouble.
--Joseph Campbell
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Re: The Crack in the Cosmic Egg... [Re: Papaver]
#5711328 - 06/04/06 01:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cool quote Pappy.
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It's pretty hard not to get a cool quote out of J.C., but he does have his detractors...
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Re: The Crack in the Cosmic Egg... [Re: Papaver]
#5711367 - 06/04/06 02:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was always get him confused with Conrad just cause of the similarity of names/initials...then I remember that I like Campbell and decidedly dislike Conrad.
-------------------- Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake. -Erik Davis
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