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niteowl
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Introducing shrooms into a field
#5663087 - 05/23/06 05:59 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I know of some fields that are growing mush just no cubes. I know that they do grow wild in my region, just not this particular (closer) field.
What would be the best way to introduce mushrooms to this field.
Put an outdoor patch there and hope the spores spread......put some spores in the feed supply.........spread spores all over the field?????
I know that there must be a way to do this. I just need some help making it happen.
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Re: Introducing shrooms into a field [Re: niteowl]
#5663214 - 05/23/06 07:36 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Make a load of liquid culture and get a sprayer or several mycobags of grain you can break up and rake into the poo.
The grains will probably work better.
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Re: Introducing shrooms into a field [Re: gotyerback]
#5663220 - 05/23/06 07:37 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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By the way, if you try this, it would make an excellent experiment for posting the results.
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Re: Introducing shrooms into a field [Re: gotyerback]
#5663238 - 05/23/06 07:51 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I recently finished a book called "Psilocybin Mushrooms Of The World", they mentioned something about cross breeding.
Being somewhat of a newb, please excuse me if i am wrong. Isnt there a risk of "cross-breeding"? You mentioned that some other mushrooms have been growing in this area. This might be something to consider. Whether positive or negative, i cant say.
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Re: Introducing shrooms into a field [Re: GSxx83]
#5663274 - 05/23/06 08:16 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Every field I have found cubes in, had other mush growing in it also.
I don't think different types of mush can cross-breed. I'm sure he was talking about cross-breeding a cube with a cube.
But I don't know
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Re: Introducing shrooms into a field [Re: niteowl]
#5664279 - 05/23/06 12:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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No, he mentioned that if a poisonous mushroom is near a cube, it may be veyr risky to ingest.
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Re: Introducing shrooms into a field [Re: GSxx83]
#5664409 - 05/23/06 01:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ive always wanted to infect a field. The best way to do this I think is collect a plastic bag filled with spores. THen put the spores on the straw the cows eat. If you do bulk grows you can collect a pile of spores easily.
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Re: Introducing shrooms into a field [Re: Legalize247]
#5664491 - 05/23/06 01:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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From what I've read, mycelial networks can be interwoven, and chemicals from one network can be transported into another. That's why if one side of a jar gets a contam, you should normally trash it - because the contam is already spreading through the entire mycelial network so even the far side of the jar could be tainted already. So in theory if you have a single venomous mushie touching the network you create, couldn't it potentially lead to the rest of the mush becoming toxic?
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Re: Introducing shrooms into a field [Re: wiggles]
#5664554 - 05/23/06 01:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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more about this inoculating a field stuff... I want to try it too.... need more input...
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Re: Introducing shrooms into a field [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5665559 - 05/23/06 05:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not a moderator but I can tell you that discussion of putting spores into feed is Strongly Frowned Upon on these boards. So I'm gently steering this thread away from that subject and toward more mundane methods of colonizing fields lest this thread be locked.
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Re: Introducing shrooms into a field [Re: splifner180]
#5665722 - 05/23/06 05:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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why?
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Re: Introducing shrooms into a field [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5665739 - 05/23/06 05:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Introducing shrooms into a field
Take the shrooms to the filed, as you say shrooms this is the field,
Field this is the shrooms....
Well I would make it more romantic then that, candles and little wine...you get the picture
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Re: Introducing shrooms into a field [Re: splifner180]
#5665818 - 05/23/06 06:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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EquilibriuM writes: "why?"
The management seems to balk at using living animals as incubators.
Again, I'm not a mod so you're free to ignore me but I've seen threads locked for that very reason. Just trying to keep the thread in a zone that doesn't make anyone antsy in the pantsy.
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Re: Introducing shrooms into a field [Re: splifner180]
#5665829 - 05/23/06 06:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
splifner180 said: I'm not a moderator but I can tell you that discussion of putting spores into feed is Strongly Frowned Upon on these boards
Why is this frowned upon?
If I own the field (or know the person who owns it) and want to infect said field with active shrooms.......why would discussing different methods of doing this be wrong???
This IS a mushroom cultivation forum after all
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Re: Introducing shrooms into a field [Re: niteowl]
#5665868 - 05/23/06 06:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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niteowl writes: "Why is this frowned upon? If I own the field (or know the person who owns it) and want to infect said field with active shrooms.......why would discussing different methods of doing this be wrong??? This IS a mushroom cultivation forum after all "
I'm not a mod so I don't set policy. And since I don't set policy, I'm not prepared to defend it.
I'm just offering up some advice to help this thread stay alive. Feel completely free to ignore it. =)
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Re: Introducing shrooms into a field [Re: splifner180]
#5665882 - 05/23/06 06:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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blah!
does it work though?
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Re: Introducing shrooms into a field [Re: splifner180]
#5665892 - 05/23/06 06:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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splifner180 said: EquilibriuM writes: "why?"
The management seems to balk at using living animals as incubators.
Isn't that how it happens in nature???
Cows eat grass that has spores in them.......
then the cow poo's with spores already there.......
then, when the temp and humidity is right......

Maybe Im wrong in my assumption of how they propagate in the wild???
That is why Im asking questions here.
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Re: Introducing shrooms into a field [Re: niteowl]
#5666080 - 05/23/06 07:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ya an answer to that question would be very cool. Dunno much about mushrooms but I do know that birds carry seeds around in their gut and disperse them all over the place, bees carry pollen on their legs...so it would seem only logical that the cows spread the spores around like this too. And therefore I don't see how the argument about not using live cows as incubators (if you wanna put it like that....) is a good one. Not trying to dispute it, but jsut saying.
If it harmed the cows in any way I would totally agree with it cause I'm an animal lover (and ppl who hurt/torture them intentionally ought to be shot) but I dont see any reason why we shouldn't be allowed to discuss this??
thx for any replies to that
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Re: Introducing shrooms into a field [Re: niteowl]
#5666212 - 05/23/06 07:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I believe that the cows eat grass with mushie spores. Then the spores hydrate/incubate in the stomach so when the cow poos it can start growing. Now Im not 100% sure thats how it happens. If someone knows feel free to correct me.
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Re: Introducing shrooms into a field [Re: Legalize247]
#5667164 - 05/24/06 12:02 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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It is my understanding the cow pies are something like a "casing" of an existing mycelial network sub-surface. The patty acts as an incubator and substrate for fruits, and it triggers fruiting. Generally the patty itself isn't the entire mycelial mat, there is usually a large area already colonized. A poo lands and viola, fruits. Which is why fruits can seem to appear overnight, conditions for fruiting become optimal and there you go. Next time you are picking fruits from a cow pie, get down and closely examine the scene. If you have ever grown mushrooms you should recognize what is going on without too much difficulty.
I do not think spores germinate and colonize the poo from ingested spores. It could happen I suppose, though I don't think a cows digestive system for metabolizing grass is a good spore incubator.
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