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why, oh, why do the wicked prosper?
    #5662980 - 05/23/06 03:58 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I used to ask my dad this question a lot.

See, my old man is extremly humble and modest. He's not really into flash or pizazz. He has the whole world on his plate, but he only takes what he needs from it.

As a child, I would always see evil people with lots of money and power, and look to my father and ask him why?

"Why, father? Why do wicked men prosper?"

And he would always respond: "They don't, son."

It took me a long time to realize why material rewards for immoral behaviors are actually punishments.

Because what my old man never told me, what he let me figure out for myself, was that those people have cheated themselves out of much greater things in accquiring those riches unscrupulously.

There is no such thing as a free lunch. To gain, you must lose. When someone goes about doing a bunch of evil shit to increase their material wealth and power, they think they are cheating the system. But they are really only cheating themselves.

Often, evil people seem to be in very high positions. But in reality, they are in the worst possible position. They have sold their soul to get where they are. They have traded the infinite for the finite.

When you go against the basic moral principles of God in order to achieve some petty material gain, you are selling your soul to the devil, piece by piece. Money and power bring an addiction for more, and soon, Lucifer will have you fully in his pocket.

Truly, wicked men do not prosper, though it may appear so to the spiritually untrained eye. Remember, someone who has used wicked ways to achieve his wealth and power is a fool who gave up the one thing that he could've taken into his next life. You can't take it with you, and that is why the demons of this world are fools. They have stored their treasures on earth, and thus those treasures will eventually fall back into the hands of their rightful owners. The souls of these wicked men are doomed to live an existence without the God they shunned their entire lives. And existence without God is truly nothingness.

So know this: When you see an evil man enjoying the fruits of his misbegotten wealth, who seems to have paid no toll for his bounty, remember that the toll he paid was infinity. He traded everything for nothing. Laugh at him, and go about your day.


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Re: why, oh, why do the wicked prosper? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5662988 - 05/23/06 04:17 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I'd rather pray for someone than to laugh at them


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Re: why, oh, why do the wicked prosper? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5662989 - 05/23/06 04:17 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

nice post.


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Re: why, oh, why do the wicked prosper? [Re: porcupine]
    #5663685 - 05/23/06 10:53 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I'd rather pray for someone than to laugh at them




I would say that is much more christ-like!  :thumbup:


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Re: why, oh, why do the wicked prosper? [Re: kotik]
    #5663703 - 05/23/06 10:57 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You bring up a good point.


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Re: why, oh, why do the wicked prosper? [Re: kotik]
    #5663720 - 05/23/06 11:01 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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kotik said:
I would say that is much more christ-like!  :thumbup:




Why would Christ need to pray for anyone?

Christ (me) would simply just directly perceive reality and consciously choose the most effective manners to interact with reality in order to benefit oneself, other individuals, and reality itself.

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Re: why, oh, why do the wicked prosper? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5663833 - 05/23/06 11:23 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

im sorry, did you have a point or actual question?  :rolleyes:


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Re: why, oh, why do the wicked prosper? [Re: kotik]
    #5663844 - 05/23/06 11:25 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Why would Christ (once again, that is me) have to pray for anyone?

How is praying more Christ-like?

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Re: why, oh, why do the wicked prosper? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5663896 - 05/23/06 11:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

ok, now i understand the question. before it sounded more like some poetic stab at quantum physics.

praying for someone as opposed to laughing AT them is more christlike, because laughing at someone is another way of judging them, seeing them as inferior and in general smiting them. at least as described in the context of this thread.

you laugh at them, they laugh at you, the divide between the two grows even more.

now if you were to say praying vs. going out and showing people how to farm and read and boil water and etc. then i would say the latter would be more christlike. compared to ostracising someone, praying for them (or in other words, wishing them well, and hoping for good things to come to them) is without a doubt more christlike in every way.

imagine walking past a homeless person. would it be more christlike to snicker at them and turn your head, or to gently tell them you will pray for them, and wish them well?

although neither of these will give the person a home, meal or money, I would argue one is better than the other, especially in the context of christianity.


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Edited by kotik (05/23/06 11:35 AM)


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Re: why, oh, why do the wicked prosper? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5665573 - 05/23/06 05:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

maybe I shouldn't laugh, but I just find it so hilarious now!

Have you ever seen the movie 'Robin Hood'?

My favorite part was where the minister at the end pushed that guy out of a window. Before he did, he loaded the guys arms with gold and jewels. then he said: "You're gonna need all this to pay your way through Hell."

When I saw that movie I was maybe 10 years old. That part just swelled me up inside, made me feel this righteous fury. I really identified with it.

here's some lyrics to a song I also identify with a lot.

"Forest Fire"

No junk food, just earthly goods
I ate weird berries in the woods
Now I'm seeing colors, I'm getting higher
I think I'll start a forest fire

There's a forest fire climbin the hill
Burning wealthy California homes
Better run run run run run run
From the fire

But some of us stay and watch
And we think of your insurance costs
And we laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh
At your lives

Windows covered with bars
Security guards
Is that a house or a fortress?
Against the rest of the world

Windows covered with bars
Security guards
Is that a house or a prison
How you gonna get out?

Electric bull and your tennis courts
Pink sports cars and your boats
Getting fried fried fried fried fried fried
By the fire

Windows covered with bars
Floodlights for the yard
It's a pleasure to watch you
Watch it all melt

But hey!
What about the cocaine
Stockpiled in the basement
Be a hero and save it
You know you're gonna need it

Where's your brand new pretty wife
She might still be inside
Either save her or your cocaine from the fire

But the gates and doors are locked
'Cause the burglar alarms went off
Ever wonder why we laugh laugh
At your lives

Windows covered with bars
Fences spiked with barbed wire
Never looked so helpless
Engulfed in flames

Cameras watchin' the walls
Don't forget the dogs
Now you're trapped in your prison
How you gonna get out

See the gerbil
Run run run run run run run run run
run run run run run run run run run
run run run run run run run run run
From the fire


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Re: why, oh, why do the wicked prosper? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5665582 - 05/23/06 05:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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fireworks_god said:
Why would Christ (once again, that is me) have to pray for anyone?

How is praying more Christ-like?

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Praying for someone as opposed to laughing at them seems like a more compassionate thing to do.


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Re: why, oh, why do the wicked prosper? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5665595 - 05/23/06 05:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Also, let me add that there are many people in this world who have worked their ass off to get what they have.  Not all rich people are evil.  A lot of them are, but not all of them. 

So please, nobody go do anthing stupid based on your misinterpretations of my ideas.  Don't start a forest fire, because it might take out the homes of people who don't deserve it. 

but it is a funny song :smile:


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Re: why, oh, why do the wicked prosper? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5665695 - 05/23/06 05:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

the wicked scare the meek away from what they are eating.
then since noone is eating it
they clean up

you could invert the matter and see that the wicked operate a
weight loss program but gain no benefit from it.

at any rate it's just a song,
a kareoke moment.


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Re: why, oh, why do the wicked prosper? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5665801 - 05/23/06 06:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

they clean up a big mess of other people's shit with their mouths.

you can have that job

I don't want it.


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Re: why, oh, why do the wicked prosper? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5667062 - 05/23/06 11:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

you like the stage,
sing
sing
everyone gets a turn.


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Re: why, oh, why do the wicked prosper? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5667169 - 05/24/06 12:02 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

we'll see about that, darlin

truth is, there's a lot of stages.

I see no need for turns


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Re: why, oh, why do the wicked prosper? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5667184 - 05/24/06 12:06 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

in kareoke you take turns
it's natural.
some you like
some like you.


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Re: why, oh, why do the wicked prosper? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5667775 - 05/24/06 07:13 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i dont like the kareoke songs in chinese
and they mess up the english songs
or maybe i was just too fucked up


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