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Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips?
    #5660971 - 05/22/06 05:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Im not generalizing, im pretty sure there are women out there who have bad trips. But it seems like to me women have a better reaction to shrooms than men. I find that its harder for them to think negatively, where as its easier for me and my male friends to think negatively during trips. When one dude freaks out, everyone usually freaks out, except for the girls. They find it hilarious and have a good time all around. Anyone wanna shed some light on my opinion?


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: Jon]
    #5660972 - 05/22/06 05:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I've seen a girl freak the fuck out before. Dumb bitch should've listened when I said don't do it.


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: Atheist]
    #5661047 - 05/22/06 05:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Ive seen lots of girls freak out really really badly.


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: PDU]
    #5661199 - 05/22/06 06:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

My lady has her emotional moments during but always comes out of it positive. She can stomach the fungus much better than I.. Without Mary Jane i am doomed :/  :projectile:


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: Jon]
    #5661442 - 05/22/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: Hix]
    #5661449 - 05/22/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

nope good friend of mine was an idiot and said she didnt wanna do shrooms but did em anyway and the whole time she thought she was gonna freeze to death


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: kehoe]
    #5661496 - 05/22/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I dont think the original poster is a girl.

However, this thread strikes me as funny, as I recall a few months ago there being 3 or 4 threads pop up asking 'just me, or do girls seem to freak out on mushrooms more then guys?' and people tossing out long posts saying its because 'girls are more emotional then guys' and thus more prone to bad-trips.

Not saying I share either opinion, as of all the times I've tripped with other people, I've never had anyone 'freak out' -- just find this post funny in light of past discussions in this forum :P


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: PDU]
    #5661507 - 05/22/06 07:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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PDU said:
Ive seen lots of girls freak out really really badly.



Me too.


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #5661622 - 05/22/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yea, i've sen girls freak the fuck out.
once this one girl ate like a whole eigth of psi. cyanescens and she forgot her name, completely all of her linguistic skills, and much more. she pretty much thought she was dead
so yea girls def have bad trips


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: hoopershroomer]
    #5661922 - 05/22/06 09:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Just a theory but - MOTHER nature provides us with our beloved shrooms. Perhaps she looks after the sisterhood more so than us dudes?


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: bonzo]
    #5662029 - 05/22/06 09:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

If that were true then they would have been given the strength, stamina, speed and wouldn't be so vulnerable to rape to protect themselves better. It's only reffered to as "mother" because it "gave birth" to us.

Anyways, that asside I've never really seen any girls freak out on shrooms but that's probably because I haven't seen many girls on shrooms. When I have though a lot of them would never shut up and some of them were just acting weird/stupid (crawling on the floor in a sleeping bag and getting all excited about the dumbest stuff) although I'm certain that's just because well, they were stupid people...

As a generalized statement though I'd say it's about equal. Some women are more sensitive to their emotions, some guys don't know how to face or deal with their emotions. Although in my experience with other drugs (alcohol/weed) girls seem more likely to act out in weird ways, I assume for attention, while guys are more likely to just take more than they can handle.


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: StickyWater]
    #5662201 - 05/22/06 10:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

umm every bad trip ive managed to calm down wqas ussua;y wait always women atleasdt in my exepreience.. id say the freakm out easier,.. im not being sexist but women have all that emotianla baggage and crap top deal withm and it aint ppretty when you see it in a bad trip


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: leafing]
    #5662419 - 05/22/06 11:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

had a few too many ay bud?

Honestly women do freak out too, and I also find that women that do freak out never go near that shit again!


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: Ginseng1]
    #5662793 - 05/23/06 01:25 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I've seen just as many guys freak out as I have gals. Bad trips don't discriminate based on gender. What causes the bad trip may differ, but either sex is just as likely to have them.


It would be interesting to do a study on the differences of the experiences of men and women under the influence of psychedelic agents


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: Kaleidoscope]
    #5662813 - 05/23/06 01:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I don't think it's soo much a question of gender directly affecting the likelyhood of a bad trip. Yes, bad trips do not discriminate, but they happen for a reason, they are manifested from something going on in the brain, and the question is more, are women's brain's more likely to fall into a pattern that leads to a bad trip, not whether gender necessarily plays a role in it (I've been up all night, try to follow what I'm saying  :tongue:). Just thought I'd mention that because when I read that post it had sounded as if you were only looking at it as a case of trips discriminating based off gender and not the psychological qualities of each gender. Excuse me if I was incorrect.


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: StickyWater]
    #5664539 - 05/23/06 01:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

sex on shrooms =)


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: Coaster]
    #5664648 - 05/23/06 01:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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sex on shrooms =)




Is damn near impossible, but would be a blast if you could pull it off. So far I haven't been able to keep focused but I've only tried once.

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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: Coaster]
    #5664663 - 05/23/06 02:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Women on shrooms are fearsome.


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: funnybunny]
    #5664702 - 05/23/06 02:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Are you kidding me? Girls FREAK. Some of the worst trips I've seen came from women tripping.

Sex on shrooms (or better, acid) is awsome.


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #5664713 - 05/23/06 02:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Are you kidding me? Girls FREAK. Some of the worst trips I've seen came from women tripping.

Sex on shrooms (or better, acid) is awsome.





yep,my wife has come unglued on shrooms..got her ass royally kicked..lol  ... and sex on acid is the best :wink:


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: CaptainKirk]
    #5664792 - 05/23/06 02:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

According to Timothy Leary, a woman who is experienced with psychedelics is essential to a psychedelic session. Women have a way of sending comfort vibes to trippers in need of good direction.

That has nothing to do with women and freaking out on psychedelics, but I just thought I would throw that out there.


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #5664886 - 05/23/06 02:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Are you kidding me? Girls FREAK. Some of the worst trips I've seen came from women tripping.

Sex on shrooms (or better, acid) is awsome.




Do you come down alot after you ejaculate?

When smoking pot, no matter how soon after i smoke, if i have sex...the second i ejacualte. Im sober.


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: Jon]
    #10416852 - 05/28/09 10:56 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Haha I knew a few girls who took acid and fell under the impression that they no longer knew how to breathe... bad trips come from bad mindsets


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: silosighbin]
    #10417336 - 05/29/09 12:44 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Environment, is in my opinion the leading factor in whether your trip will be good, or bad.  Especially on acid or shrooms.  Both drugs provide an altered reality of the present.  If there is any kind of 'stress' or 'worry', due to the environment.  ie.( paranoia from cops/parents/spouse/etc, or tons of moving objects ie.( car, fair rides, etc.. ))

It really doesnt discriminate from gender, or personality.  No matter how many times you've tripped, or how many drugs you've taken, or even the depth of your current trip.  The possibility for a bad trip is always there, if your environment isnt (good vibe friendly)


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: crypie]
    #10418022 - 05/29/09 06:10 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I wouldnt say Ive had any bad trips.

I have had one trip before that was extremely emotional and probably looked bad to everyone else. My friend who was tripping with us was withdrawing very badly while shrooming. I felt so bad because I couldnt make him feel better that I started crying. It was also the hardest I have ever tripped before and the mushrooms were bringing up issues that really bother me about my past which just made the crying worse.
It was really just because I was tripping in someone elses house, their parents were home, I didnt plan my evening out well, and I was NOT expecting to trip so damn hard from 2grams. Bad set and setting, but it turned out very well. As soon as I left the house I felt much much better.


I havent tripped with any girls besides one of my friends. I didnt really enjoy those two times because she wouldnt stop talking, lots of thought loops, playing with stupid shit and giggling. Shes a good friend and all, I just dont enjoy tripping with her.

Ive also heard some horror stories about girls running out of someones house on a half eigth of mushrooms in their underwear thinking cops were after them.:rolleyes:

I mainly chill with dudes, though. Girls tend to annoy me for the most part. Im emotional enough as it is. Dealing with someone else whos just as emotionally crazy as me is hectic.:smirk:


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: Coaster]
    #10418635 - 05/29/09 09:39 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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sex on shrooms =)





Terrence Mckenna somehow managed to have sex on DMT. Not to mention I've read trip reports of people having sex while on ayahuasca.


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: The Centre]
    #10419828 - 05/29/09 01:25 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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Terrence Mckenna somehow managed to have sex on DMT. Not to mention I've read trip reports of people having sex while on ayahuasca.




I read about that and it sounded pretty insane, I think it was with a chick on datura right?  How someone on ayahuasca and someone on datura managed to perform this act properly is beyond me, lol...

I don't think any of us can make a conclusion on this based on tripping with a few chicks we know.  I have a girlfriend who freaks out even after smoking a couple hits of weed, and another one who will eat strips of acid at a time with me and have a great time.  So, it depends on the individual I'm sure.  I think girls do have a general tendency to be more emotional, but that can also mean that they are more in tune with their emotions which can be helpful.  I also think they tend to be slightly less attached to their ego, which could be an advantage.

I have had a pretty bad trip on shrooms before, but for the most part I'm a grounded and experienced tripper.  I also find it IMPOSSIBLE to have a bad acid trip or a bad mescaline trip, no matter how much I take.  It kind of amazes me that I've never had a moment of fear on any amount of acid since I have read about so many bad acid trips.


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: envisionary333]
    #10419978 - 05/29/09 01:51 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Well, as a girl, I've had 1 bad trip out of the 15-20 that I've had. 

Now, this wasn't because I was in a bad mindset, someone decided that it would be fun to mess with me.  It was my first mushroom trip (about 4.5 g dry)  I had done no research on the topic of mindset/sitters, but I knew I had to be in an okay mood and I needed a sitter. So my fiance and I took them and our roomie was sitting and his gf was there too.  He was actually outside on our deck and was shivering, told me he couldn't get up.  Once I convinced him to come inside, he just laid on the floor for a bit then said a few things that set me off, so I told my fiance and the guy's gf to leave because I didn't want anyone else to worry about this guy. (I figured I could handle it) So anyways, I figured he was either just playing around or that we would need to get some medical help... then he told me that he was going to kill himself and could hurt me and others (this he had said earlier too, which is why i kicked the other two out forcibly), he changed his voice, personality and stature very quickly, which was very scary, but it didn't sink in for a while.  After this his gf and my fiance came back, I ended up crying for about 4 hours on end, screamed and couldn't be consoled.  All because this guy decided to mess with me.

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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: envisionary333]
    #10420137 - 05/29/09 02:18 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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Terrence Mckenna somehow managed to have sex on DMT. Not to mention I've read trip reports of people having sex while on ayahuasca.




I read about that and it sounded pretty insane, I think it was with a chick on datura right?  How someone on ayahuasca and someone on datura managed to perform this act properly is beyond me, lol...

I don't think any of us can make a conclusion on this based on tripping with a few chicks we know.  I have a girlfriend who freaks out even after smoking a couple hits of weed, and another one who will eat strips of acid at a time with me and have a great time.  So, it depends on the individual I'm sure.  I think girls do have a general tendency to be more emotional, but that can also mean that they are more in tune with their emotions which can be helpful.  I also think they tend to be slightly less attached to their ego, which could be an advantage.

I have had a pretty bad trip on shrooms before, but for the most part I'm a grounded and experienced tripper.  I also find it IMPOSSIBLE to have a bad acid trip or a bad mescaline trip, no matter how much I take.  It kind of amazes me that I've never had a moment of fear on any amount of acid since I have read about so many bad acid trips.



Ive also never experience fear while on acid. Im so much more outgoing and clearheaded. Some of the reasons why acid is more recreational to me. I have never gotten the insights other people have spoken of.


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: CaptainKirk]
    #10420669 - 05/29/09 04:00 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I always thought it was girls who couldn't handle it that great, idk though.


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: Jon]
    #10420745 - 05/29/09 04:15 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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I find that its harder for them to think negatively, where as its easier for me and my male friends to think negatively during trips.




you make it seem like thinking negatively is good and something that someone should 'try harder' at. let me rephrase it normal:
'I find that its harder for males to think positively, where as its easier for me and my female friends to think positively during trips.'

i found the post about there being another thread about how the OP thought that women get bad trips more often, and a bunch of people posted how it's because they are more emotional/less logical...

it's pretty obvious the vast majority of the shroomery are males and most of their attempts at 'insight' into females are just plain negative...


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: Jon]
    #10420959 - 05/29/09 04:58 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I generally experience a wide range of emotions during mushroom trips. If a particular issue has been weighing on my subconscious, the mushrooms will typically bring that issue to the front of my mind so that I can address it. I often cry when working through an upsetting emotional issue on mushrooms. But that is usually only a small part of my trip, and once it is resolved, I feel relieved and content. I have never had what I would call a "bad trip." While my mushroom trips tend to have emotional highs and lows, I don't think I could ever be anything other than euphoric on acid. I can't imagine what it would be like to experience a truly nightmarish trip on any drug. I have never been particularly attached to my ego to begin with, so for me, there is never any intense discomfort in that regard, and nothing to resist. Tripping makes me feel more comfortable in general. The first time I tripped, I felt like a goddess.

I have only tripped with another girl on one occasion. Her boyfriend loves mushrooms, but she was too intimidated to really share his enthusiasm, and she'd had negative experiences with mushrooms in the past. So I invited them to spend an evening tripping with my boyfriend and me, and by arranging and guiding the trip, I was able to show her that tripping could be pleasant and not scary. She said that, due to the presence of another girl, she felt more calm and open to the experience, whereas in the past, with only guys, she had been too defensive and uncomfortable to enjoy herself.


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: Kandinsky]
    #10421710 - 05/29/09 07:52 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I just cant find any comfort when I trip with another girl. Its weird. I dont connect with other girls very well because Im so used to chilling with guys and being close to guys.

I also dont know any other girls that actively pursue psychedelics for spiritual/personal growth, and care enough to be informed on the substances they take.


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: envisionary333]
    #10421868 - 05/29/09 08:28 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I've seen girls scared shitless while tripping... i have also seen guys scared. IT all about how you think, no matter what gender you are.


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: RedRainDrop]
    #10421927 - 05/29/09 08:41 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

yeah
i find it very common for girls to lose theere shit while coming up on a hefty dose of whathaveyou.


its an individual thing, obviously. but often times girls cling to there composure and apperence a bit more then men and are not as ear to let go of the idea of themselfs, as they know it that is.


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: notapillow]
    #10422085 - 05/29/09 09:14 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

My ex girlfriend has a bad trip everytime she does mushrooms. She can't handle life and with the introspection she just gets depressed and cries. It's a buzz kill, I don't do mushrooms with her lol


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Re: Is it just me, or do women never get bad trips? [Re: TTT]
    #10424203 - 05/30/09 08:36 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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TTT said:
I just cant find any comfort when I trip with another girl. Its weird. I dont connect with other girls very well because Im so used to chilling with guys and being close to guys.

I also dont know any other girls that actively pursue psychedelics for spiritual/personal growth, and care enough to be informed on the substances they take.



I agree, there are a lot more guys into the psychedelic world then there are girls. On top of that, if you're with the right guys, you know you'll have an awesome time, kind of like my friends birthday party last night. Only girl there after the first bit (only one on mush) and I had a blast.


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