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Icelander
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I was having one of those days myself.
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michael_lifshitz
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For the record. I don't understand anything I have read in this thread about gays and naturalness.
How is something unnatural?
1. Present in or produced by nature: a natural pearl. 2. Of, relating to, or concerning nature: a natural environment. 3. Conforming to the usual or ordinary course of nature: a natural death.
I would argue homosexuality falls into all of those.
Not to mention, who cares, it is a choice.
Saying someone is not allowed to choose is well, rediculous.
Next lets argue free speech!
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Sinbad
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Mother Nature created homosexuality to cut down on the problems of over-population.
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Silversoul
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Re: On gayness [Re: Sinbad]
#5669712 - 05/24/06 06:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sinbad said: Mother Nature created homosexuality to cut down on the problems of over-population.
You may not be far off. I heard that one study showed a correlation between homosexuality and stress levels in the mother during pregnancy. One cause of such high stress levels can be overpopulation.
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Re: On gayness [Re: Sinbad]
#5669828 - 05/24/06 07:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sinbad said: Mother Nature created homosexuality to cut down on the problems of over-population.
now thats a good theory. One of the many things I appreciate about homosexuals is that they are not breeders. I'm always down for people who can have sex without having kids.
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Veritas

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Disco Cat said: By the way everybody, I wanted to apologize for the rude way I conducted myself yesterday. 48 hours of no sleep over 2 working days had me in a very impatient and grumpy mood. I meant my claims, but the way I put them out there was overly hostile and I'm sorry for that.
I apologize for my mocking remarks about your college class.
This issue is a hot spot for me, as many close friends throughout my life have been subjected to discrimination based upon their sexual orientation. I was brought up to believe that personal preference, whether it takes the form of love or sexual attraction, was the deciding factor in whether a relationship "should" occur.
I am offended and repulsed by pseudo-scientific reasons for bigotry and hatred, and I strongly object to sexual preference being classified as a disease or mental illness. Homosexuality is not something to be fixed. The stigma surrounding legitimate affectional and sexual preferences is ridiculously outdated and oppressive.
Let's move on & let other adults love and fuck their partners. Big deal.
Edited by Veritas (05/24/06 10:27 PM)
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Basilides
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Re: On gayness [Re: DoctorJ]
#5671533 - 05/25/06 04:07 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Lets not forget they make fine singers, pianists, cooks, artists and interior designers
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Syle
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One thing I dislike about some of the homosexual people I know, is that they parade around me and try to hammer it into me that they are gay and different/better than me; these are people I personally know, I am not generalizing about the entire gay population.
Basically, when they continually have to press upon me that they are in fact, gay, I get the feeling that they are really confused about themselves and it annoys me that they can't just be comfortable with it and just let it be. Hell, I know they are gay, they know it, why the hell do they keep telling me it or stressing to me how much better the gay culture is than the straight culture?
I don't know what I am really trying to say. Probably I am just trying to say, if you are gay, kudos for you, I commend you for the tough road that you probably traversed to get to this point in life, but if you must continually express to EVERYONE how gay you are, then I think you still have some underlying issues that need to be addressed.
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Icelander
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Re: On gayness [Re: Syle]
#5672498 - 05/25/06 11:41 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Things like this are a matter of degree. I've been thinking about this and in the end it seems to me that being gay is just one other of the many ways that we express ourselves and that includes the dysfunctional parts. But to isolate it from the matrix of all the behaviors that we as humans exhibit is not to look at the issue rationally. Our own prejudice and fears creep in.
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Syle
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I agree here. The issues of being overly open almost to the point of obnoxiousness that I discussed that I have with my homosexual friends, would most likely be the same for any other type of facet in life.
For instance, if one of my heterosexual friends got married, and talked about nothing else than their marriage, I would probably get real annoyed with them after a while.
I was basically speaking from the standpoint on homosexuals because that was what this thread was about. And I see that what I talked about has come up a few times in other peoples posts and I thought maybe my reasoning and logic behind my "uncomfortable" feelings might shed some light on other people's reasons.
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TacticalBongRip
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Re: On gayness [Re: Redstorm]
#5675658 - 05/26/06 01:19 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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mis-post
Edited by TacticalBongRip (05/26/06 01:21 AM)
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TacticalBongRip
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fireworks_god said:
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Disco Cat said: You really need me to spell it out? The human body is not suited for actions which
It isn't suited for such actions, eh? By what standard? Comparison to the vagina? The body is not suited for oral sex then, either, eh? Are you aware that the vagina's walls can tear as well?
The human body tends to not be too well suited for dairy products either, eh? Big fucking deal. 
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That's not the context of validity I was talking about at all. Once again FWG is behind the grade, big suprise.
Oh, so you were discussing some topic that did not pertain to the actual subject being discussed then, great. Homosexuality, being gay, does not equal "anal sex", and the context of whether or not anal sex is natural does not really pertain to the discussion on being gay that is being held.
I apologize for assuming that you would have actually been discussing something of direct relevance to the topic. 
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No, that's a truth, not the truth of all angles of this discussion. I'm not talking about the lifestyle choice, or whether it's there to make.
Spell it out, pure and simple. Remember, you are dealing with a fucking moron here. What exactly is your point, then, if you are not discussing what I had assumed you were discussing?
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No it wasn't, nice of you to go all out on the drama tho.
Ahh, but it refered to a specific design and intended usage. Evolution, physical reality, does not have intention or specific design, simply different aspects that are what they are, and thus a notion of suitability.
So the anus is not as suitable as a vagina for insertion of the penis. Super. Thus, anal sex is not natural. Profound conclusion. Utterly profound. 
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A place you're not too familiar with, let's call it Knowledge thru in depth study.
So, you've studied, in depth, the nature of anal sex? Hhhm.... 
How in depth are we talking here? 
 Peace.
i couldn't help but laugh my ass off , especially that part at the end 
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