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Re: holy shit, hoffman is 100 yrs old?!? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5661451 - 05/22/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Like it or not Leary was a psychiatrist. He taught psychiatry at Harvard. I think that qualifies as "psychiatrist". If LSD was only for the elite this forum would not exist. Who determines "who can handle it" a government appointed shrink? There are many problems with being an elitist or a snob. Freedom means freedom for all...not the few.




Actually, Tim Leary was a research psychologist - a Ph.D. not an M.D. (psychiatrist). He actually made a major contribution to psychological testing in the 1950s. He was obnoxious at Harvard reunion parties, according to a former professor at U. of Maryland (Laura Dittman) whose husband was a contemporary of Tim Leary.

I met Leary twice, and got I him to sign a [fine] hardback copy of The Psychedelic Experience - twice - almost 20 years apart. (Let the bidding commence  :smile:). I tried to offer him a baggy of shrooms the second time, but he didn't know me and registered immediate paranoia so I re-pocketed the baggy. That was in '94 I believe.


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Re: holy shit, hoffman is 100 yrs old?!? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #5661569 - 05/22/06 07:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I stand corrected. I was stating information from memory, and it had been a while since reading about him. My point is still valid...the man WAS a Doctor....PHD variety...he was qualified to treat people for mental disorders. If he was a psychologist how did he get access to drugs? I thought only psychiatrists did that.


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Re: holy shit, hoffman is 100 yrs old?!? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5662078 - 05/22/06 09:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

LSD was an experimental 'substance.' I lived right near Sandoz Pharmaceuticals where Leary bought his. I'd made deliveries there all the time and the guards always told this long haired delivery guy "Have a nice trip!" It wasn't made illegal til 1966, so it could be purchased by psychologists from Harvard.


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Re: holy shit, hoffman is 100 yrs old?!? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #5662094 - 05/22/06 09:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I would have picked up an extra "delivery" for myself if possible. I like the attitude of the guards...if only it was the prevailing attitude today...


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Re: holy shit, hoffman is 100 yrs old?!? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5669585 - 05/24/06 05:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

dr hofmann does take a daily dose of hydergine (ergoline mesylates?), which seems to help protect the brain from O2 deprivation & possibly from those troublesome "mini-strokes"...

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ya, tim was clinical psycholgist, w/kaiser group...
his personality profiling system was quite innovative for the late 50s...
in dr humphrey osmond's book _understanding understanding_ he states that tim leary's personality type was sufficiently novelty-seeking (& iconoclastic?) that he should not have done psychedelics more than once (if at all!)
(& dr osmond & his collaborator dr abram hoffer were MDs who worked in a saskatchewan mental hospital, treating alcoholics with LSD (including bill w, founder of AA), turning aldous huxley onto mescalne, & they already had a psychedelic study group going on at harvard when tim ummmm sorta dropped in to the psychology dept, hehheh... (they were alittle worried, cuz tim seemed a little "square" to them at first...


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Re: holy shit, hoffman is 100 yrs old?!? [Re: gnrm23]
    #5674374 - 05/25/06 07:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

read dr hofmann's book _insight, outlook_ (tr. j ott)
worth digging up...
www.hofmann.org for a website


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